Another died in France, buried in England

[j.r.f]

TERRY.

On the face of it this looks like another "died in France buried in England." Times 24th May 1915.

"LIEUTENANT VISCOUNT WENDOVER only son of the MARQUES of LINCOLNSHIRE,who died from wounds received in action,took place at MOULSOE BUCKS, ON Saturday, with full military honours.

The plain oak coffin, covered in the UNION JACK, had been brought to England from Boulogne on Thursday." There is more in the citation, but this, for us, is the important part.

C.W.G.C. States that he is buried MOULSOE ST. MARY CHURCHYARD. Served as alais, true family name WYNN-CARRINGTON.

I think this gives you all the information that you will require to check it out.

CHEERS FOR NOW.

JOHN FLOOK.

[Jon6640]

I read it as he sustained wounds in France but died in the UK, but I guess only further investigataion will reveal the truth.

Jon

[Tom Morgan]

He did die in France, in hospital at Boulogne, and both his parents were with him when he died. Presumably they made immediate on-the-spot arrangements to have his remains brought home. He has been mentioned on the forum before and I believe that Terry D is aware of him.

Tom

[j.r.f]

thanks to JON AND TOM FROM JOHN.

[grantowi]

From SDGW:

Regiment, Corps etc.: Household Cavalry and Cavalry of the Line (incl. Yeomanry and Imperial Camel Corps)

Battalion etc.: Royal Horse Guards (The Blues)

Last name: Wendover

First name(s): Albert Edward Charles Robert (viscount)

Initials: A E C R

Decoration:

Rank: LT

Date died: 19 May 1915

How died: Died of wounds

Grant

[Terry Denham]

John

He is a well known repatriation. He has been in the list for years.

[Steven Broomfield]

Pedantically, Wynne-Carrington isn't an alias, it's the family name of the Marquis of Lincolnshire; Viscount Wendover would be an honorary title for the son of a Marquis.

Presumably he used the family name as opposed to anything else.

[Tom Morgan]

Other way round I think, Steven!

This officer served as "Lieutenant Viscount Wendover". CWGC are saying that this name was (technically) an alias, because it wasn't his family name. You will find him in the CWGC records under the name "Wendover" but that reference refers you to his other entry under the name Wynn-Carrington, which has more information - details of his regiment, family details etc., which aren't given in his "Wendover" entry.

Tom

[Steven Broomfield]

Cheers, Tom. Interesting thought, actually, and possibly worthy of another thread: which name should the nobility serve under? Viscount Wendover was his title, so he was entitled (sorry) to use it, but equally Wynne Carrington was the family name, so he was, presumably, entitled to use that, too. Briefly scanning the regimental histories of two regiments with a decent sprinkling of 'toffs' (Grenadier Guards and Coldstream Guards), there appears to be a lot of minor Lords of one sort or another.

I'd have thought the the courtesy title would be most obvious - it was what he would be known by most usually.

[j.r.f]

CHEERS CHAPS

TERRY I thought that yoy would have him but I thought I would flag it up just incase.I am, at the moment trolling through the times on line lokking for peole either on the BRISTOL ROLL OF HIONOUR or who lived in the Bristol area.Its going to take a long time. I have already learned just how many of the nobility lost sons in the WAR.I suppose one reason that life was so different afterwards is that there were so few of them left.It also explains,what I call, the upperclass twit syndrome. If you haave lost a large proportion of your pears then why be serious.There is only today to live for.

CHEERS FOR NOW.

JOHN FLOOK.