stoney43 Posted 15 February , 2008 Share Posted 15 February , 2008 does any pal know of any list where i could find out who were the officers when the battalion was formed also the family rumours tell of Officers going round villages on recruiting drive and not picking any miners. could this be fact. Thanks Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted 15 February , 2008 Share Posted 15 February , 2008 Two of my close relatives were 12/KOYLI and they were both miners. I will have a look at the Regt. history when I get home this evening to see if officers at establishment are mentioned. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 15 February , 2008 Share Posted 15 February , 2008 Hi, Here is the Army List for Jan 1915 for the 12th Service Battalion KOYLI Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted 15 February , 2008 Share Posted 15 February , 2008 Cheers Mark...saved me a job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 15 February , 2008 Share Posted 15 February , 2008 Some battalions had extra officers during their training who were transferred to reserve battalions before the main battalion embarked abroad. These are sometimes referred to as Supernumerary officers (though whether that is strictly the right term I will leave for others to say...) Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney43 Posted 15 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 15 February , 2008 thanks pals got him only just though last on list A.Ripley. good job page wasnt shortened eh. edit. does it say lieutenant. dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 15 February , 2008 Share Posted 15 February , 2008 Temporary Honoury Lieutenant. Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney43 Posted 15 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 15 February , 2008 thanks Mark helps a lot. now to follow his footsteps as it were. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 15 February , 2008 Share Posted 15 February , 2008 Hi, This looks like him, half way down the right column. Regards Mark http://www.londongazette.co.uk/ViewPDF.asp...t=&similar= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 15 February , 2008 Share Posted 15 February , 2008 Hi, This again looks like him, half way down the right column. Regards Mark http://www.londongazette.co.uk/ViewPDF.asp...t=&similar= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 15 February , 2008 Share Posted 15 February , 2008 Hi, There is a Pension Record for a Quarter Master Sergeant Arthur Ripley no 4865 who was discharged 9/7/1914 from the 2nd Battalion KOYLI after 21 years service. Maybe that could be him? PM me with your e mail and I can send them to you tomorrow if you want them. Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney43 Posted 15 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 15 February , 2008 Thanks Mark now to find and follow him from Leeds met him once as a young wipper snapper so i know he was one of the lucky ones and survived.cant realy remember him but remember the sword and a couple of shells cases as ornaments round the fire. Got his medal card and hes down as being in the Royal Fusiliers. I suppose the moveing about happened a lot in the early days. sorry to go rambling on. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyneside Chinaman Posted 16 February , 2008 Share Posted 16 February , 2008 Hi A bit off track I know, but a number years ago when I was at Pen & Sword discussing Tyneside Scottish a gent had been in and discussed doing a PALS book on 12 KOYLI it was to be called 'Tow'd Twelth' the jacket mock up was produced and pinned up with all the PALS jackets. Same format Cap Badge main figure and group. Unfortunately as Roni Wilkinson said to me, the author was "Turkish Delight" I said "whats that" to which he replied "Full of Eastern Promise and NOWT ELSE" Shame I think it collapsed through lack of photographic material. Just an aside to the story of 12 KOYLI which I am sure would make a good book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 16 February , 2008 Share Posted 16 February , 2008 He appears listed with the 13th Battalion as a Temporary Captain and the Battalion Adjutant in the Nov 1916 Army List Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 16 February , 2008 Share Posted 16 February , 2008 In the Nov 1917 Army List he is with The Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) 38th (Service) Battalion Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 16 February , 2008 Share Posted 16 February , 2008 In the Dec 1918 Army List he is a Major with The Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment), 38th (Service) Battalion Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 16 February , 2008 Share Posted 16 February , 2008 In the Dec 1919 Army List he is still a Major with The Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment), 38th (Service) Battalion Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney43 Posted 16 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 16 February , 2008 good evening Mark just spent the afternoon looking through the info you emailed me looks as though I am going to get a good profile of Arthur before the war with the info supplied thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 16 February , 2008 Share Posted 16 February , 2008 Hi, It looks like he was serving on the North West Frontier at the same time as my Great Grandfather who was India with 2nd Battalion The Connaught Rangers at the time. Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 16 February , 2008 Share Posted 16 February , 2008 Hi, These look like some more references form the London Gazette Regards mark http://www.londongazette.co.uk/ViewPDF.asp...t=&similar= http://www.londongazette.co.uk/ViewPDF.asp...t=&similar= http://www.londongazette.co.uk/ViewPDF.asp...t=&similar= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney43 Posted 16 February , 2008 Author Share Posted 16 February , 2008 hi again looks as though they were both for runners of the modern army of today and does this mean that as a nation we have'nt learnt from history.or we just like wars. wonder where he enlisted in 1914 and did he have time for a spot of leave before sliding back into uniform. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 17 February , 2008 Share Posted 17 February , 2008 Hi Dave, It looks like he was discharged on 9th July 1914 and was Temporary Quartermaster, Honorary Lieutenant on 28th October 1914. Each Service Battalion seemed to have a Regular or retired Regular Commanding Officer, a Regular Adjutant, and Company Commanders usually had some military experience. The Quartermaster, Regimental Sergeant Major, and Quartermaster Sergeant were usually pensioners who had rejoined, which seems to be the case with Arthur Ripley. Company Sergeant Majors and Quartermaster Sergeants were obtained by promoting NCO’s from the Regular battalions. Regards mark http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/ViewPDF.a...t=&similar= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney43 Posted 4 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 4 March , 2008 hi Mark just spotted your last installment about Arthur thanks again. not picked it up due to finding another ancestor who had changed his name ! Another who might have been with your G/GF in the 5th Bn Connaught rangers. William Eccleston. 3128. died. 11/8/1915. Small world init. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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