Can anyone reconise this cemetery please

[pier]

Hi Pal's

I found these photos in my Granfathers things, his father was killed in 1917 and is on the Arras memorial, Faubourg-d 'Amien's

As they were taken in 1962, would my Grandad have known then where to find his Dad, or maybe he was just visiting the graves not knowing where his Dad's was ?

Can anyone identify the cemetery please ?

Many thanks London girl x

[Peter Bennett]

First impression it looks like Cabaret Rouge.

[Paul Reed]

Yes, it's Cabaret Rouge Cemetery at Souchez - in both photos.

[marc glorieux]

london girl,

I think : Cabaret Rouge Cemetery (Souchez - France)

Otherwise, can the trip been a combination Flanders-north France , started in Belgium (Ostend) ? the coach seems to me as a "VanHool" (model made from +/- 1955-+/-1965), a belgian product, most used in this time by belgian touroperaters.

marc

[jay dubaya]

Hope all is good Carol, here's a modern day shot from a similar angle,

cheers, Jon

[laughton]

If you have a name then you can match the exact location of your grandfather's grave on the cememtery plan. Here is what the cemetery looks like with the CWGC site plan overlaid on Google Earth. The CWGC data gives the exact loaction of graves, so give us a name and the rest will follow:

[old-ted]

Thats a great technique overlaying the CWGC plan over Google Earth. Do you need any special software to merge the two?

John & Kathleen

[pier]

Hi All,

Many thanks to you all for all your help i really appreciate it, Great Photo Jon thanks !! but is the same place where my Lancelot's name would be ?

or was my Granparents on a tour of the area, not knowing where Lancelot's memorial was ?

thank you for your time

London girl x

[Alan_J]

If your Great-grandfather's name is on the Arras memorial then it is completely seperate from Cabaret Rouge cemetery. I would have thought they would have known where his name was recorded and visited the cemetery/memorial at Arras too. It's not too far from Arras to Cabaret Rouge Cemetery.

By the way, the modern photo shown above is from my website - there are other pictures of Cabaret Rouge Cemetery there as well.

Alan

Alan

[truthergw]

Hi All,

or was my Granparents on a tour of the area, not knowing where Lancelot's memorial was ?

thank you for your time

London girl x

Your Grandparents would have been informed of where he was memorialised. They may not have known where that was. We still have that problem today and have to ask for directions. If they were on a tour organised by the British Legion or some other Ex-Serviceman's organisation, they may have visited other cemeteries and memorials as well as the one they were going to.

[laughton]

Thats a great technique overlaying the CWGC plan over Google Earth. Do you need any special software to merge the two?

John & Kathleen

No you do not. The overlay process is contained within Google Earth. It takes some fiddling at first to get the "hang of it" but once you do a few, the rest are easy.

We have done all the Nicholson battle maps as well. Google Earth themselves were very pleased with the work and have moved it to their primary sector (Military Moderated). You can find these here:

Nicholson Battle Maps - CEF in the Great War

Using the map overlay process on the cemeteries was part of my 2007 Remembrance Day Project for the soldiers in my home town (Milton, Ontario CANADA). You can see those results here .... but there are more to do to finish the project. Since I am not local to the area it often takes me some time to find the cemetery (History Moderated):

Milton Soldiers on Google Earth

If you give it a try yourself and have any problems, just let me know.

Richard

[pier]

Alan, thank you for your reply, i didn't know what cemetery it was until i put the photo on here. I thought it might have been my Gt Grans one, but i think they were just on a tour.

Do yo have any photos of the cemeteries i am looking for ?

Tom, thank you also for your reply.

London girl x

[Alan_J]

London Girl,

I do have photos of the Arras Memorial, but not on the website. I will post some here when I get to them (they are on my laptop) unless someone else obliges first!

Alan

[laughton]

For those that have an interest how to apply to Google Earth, etc.

Lancelot C Hasler 283867 2nd/4th Bn London Reg KIA 15 may 1917 Arras Memorial ,Faubourg -d 'Ameins cemetery

Herbert A Hasler 55357 D Bde Royal Field Artillery, KIA 01 April 1917, buried Maroeuil British cemetery

Hi London Girl:

Seems like you have already been to the CWGC site to find out where the lads are, but in case not, here is what they say:

L. C. Hasler

and it says his memorial is in Bay 9 so that means he does not have a grave, just the memorial

the site describes how the memorials are laid out

and the sketch of where the Bays are located shown here: Bay Sketch

H. A. Hasler

so you will see on that page his grave reference is IV. C. 3.

and the sketch for grave locations for that cemetery

The sketch looks too tiny to read, even if you click on it to enlarge it so you are best to "SAVE AS" the image to your computer so you can see the real size of the image, which is then quite clear. I have cut out that section of the cemetery and marked about where C3 would be in Plot 4.

Now we can show you where this is on Google Earth - once I found the cemetery - you will see the grave location is marked by the red arrow:

And you can also view this in real time and see the overlay of the site plan on the cemetery, customized for your Herbert Hassler, here:

Herbert A. Hasler in the Google Earth Community

When you click to view in Google Earth, assuming you have that installed (free version) on your computer, you will "fly to" the cemetery and see the images, markings and overlays in real time.

You can turn to OVERLAY on and off by checking or unchecking the boxes in his file that will be in your TEMPORARY PLACES when you go to the site. You can also rotate the layout and show it in different planes.

You really need to just play around with it and see what you can do ..... then you will be hooked. You can go find all the other places you want to go on your trip to the Somme.

Have FUN!!

Richard

[pier]

Richard, your a star

Thank you so much, i really appreciate it

Take Care

Carolx