bts1970 Posted 3 February , 2008 Posted 3 February , 2008 Good evening One of my extra lads for the research 305770 Corporal FREDERICK THOMAS BAILEY (Born Purton). 10th Battalion, Tank Corps (Formerly 520010 Royal engineers). Enlisted in Swindon. Killed in action aged 30 on the 25th August 1918. Son of Mrs. A. Bailey, of Brinkworth; husband of Violet Mabel Bailey, of 47, Cambria Place, Swindon. Frederick was employed by the GWR Company as a clerk in the locomotive department. Buried GREVILLERS BRITISH CEMETERY, XII. A. 29. Can anyone put some meat on the bones around the movements / action involved for his unit on his recorded date of death best regards Bob lloyd
Sidearm Posted 4 February , 2008 Posted 4 February , 2008 The War Diary states that 8 tanks of a Composite Company operated with NZ Division and refers to appended Battle History Sheets, which I don't have. I do appear to have a copy of the orders, which I could e-mail if you send a PM. Gwyn
John84 Posted 5 February , 2008 Posted 5 February , 2008 The War Diary states that 8 tanks of a Composite Company operated with NZ Division and refers to appended Battle History Sheets, which I don't have. I do appear to have a copy of the orders, which I could e-mail if you send a PM. Gwyn Hope you don't mind if I ask a question on the thread. Gwyn Could I ask you please do you have anything for the 10th Battalion, Tank Corps., for the 1 June, 1918. One of my local lads, Thomas Atkinson, was badly burned when a fire broke out in one of the battalion tanks while he was working inside it doing maintenance work. Thanks John.
bts1970 Posted 5 February , 2008 Author Posted 5 February , 2008 John No problem at all , more the merrier Bob
andrew pugh Posted 5 February , 2008 Posted 5 February , 2008 Evening Bob. Just looked in the Tank Corps Honours and Awards book that I have ,and can only find a Cpl F.F.Bailey service number 305770,this lad also comes from Swindon Wilts.Do you have the right man and the right service number. Best Regards Andy
andrew pugh Posted 5 February , 2008 Posted 5 February , 2008 Good Evening John. All I have got on Thomas Atkinson is his service number 206186 and he came from Barnoldswick. Regards Andy
grantowi Posted 5 February , 2008 Posted 5 February , 2008 Andy, I have him as Frederick Thomas as well, but with the number 305770. where did you get the F from ? Cpl Bailey is one of my GWR chaps (he's also Bob's chap as well), do you have any further info on him? Grant
andrew pugh Posted 5 February , 2008 Posted 5 February , 2008 Hi Grant. His name is listed in the the book I have as F.F.Bailey From Swindon, Sorry! Regards Andy
grantowi Posted 5 February , 2008 Posted 5 February , 2008 Andy, Does it give any more about him ? Grant
bts1970 Posted 5 February , 2008 Author Posted 5 February , 2008 Grant , Andy firstly apologies to all service number should read 305770. Details at the top are read from CWGC & SDGW, Mark`s book list him as Frederick Thomas Bailey ( With picture ), we could have the age old initial problem that does seeem common in name listings. In the 1922 Swindon book he is listed as F T as well Grant all detail i have is the same as in Marks book mate Apologies again for the slip up, nearly as bad a an F or is it T, isn`t research great Bob
grantowi Posted 5 February , 2008 Posted 5 February , 2008 Bob, In GWR Mag he is also a FT Bailey Grant
andrew pugh Posted 5 February , 2008 Posted 5 February , 2008 Evening again All I dont have any more on this lad Bailey,glad to have been a help.If you need any more help at some time just ask. Regards Andy
Sidearm Posted 9 February , 2008 Posted 9 February , 2008 Gwyn Could I ask you please do you have anything for the 10th Battalion, Tank Corps., for the 1 June, 1918. One of my local lads, Thomas Atkinson, was badly burned when a fire broke out in one of the battalion tanks while he was working inside it doing maintenance work. John Sorry for delayed response. I've checked the War Diary for 1 June 1918 and there's no reference to a tank fire. There is a reference to 6 tanks being driven from Wanquetin to Saulty la Brett (?) where they were entrained to Central Workshops, but that's all. No reference to any casualties. Gwyn
John84 Posted 10 February , 2008 Posted 10 February , 2008 John Sorry for delayed response. I've checked the War Diary for 1 June 1918 and there's no reference to a tank fire. There is a reference to 6 tanks being driven from Wanquetin to Saulty la Brett (?) where they were entrained to Central Workshops, but that's all. No reference to any casualties. Gwyn Thanks for checking mate it is very much appreciated. John.
bts1970 Posted 20 February , 2011 Author Posted 20 February , 2011 Just to add, here is the full list for the Village & tank Corps links. If anyone has access to the SWB lists & can add any details for Albert hedges i would be most gratefll. I do have further service (some more than others) details for the lads listed, anyone interested please contact me. TANK CORPS BAILEY, Frederick Thomas. 10th Battalion, Tank Corps BOWDEN, Frederick Thomas. 322297 transferred to Tank Corps 1919. HAINES, William James. 92752“B” Section, Tank Corps KIA 10/12/1917. HEDGES, Albert Henry. 306959 16th Battalion Tank Corps (SWB). OVENS, Walter, Evelyn. 306965 Tank Corps. LEACH, Albert. 305115 15th Battalion, Tank Corps, DOW 11/08/1918. SELWOOD, Walter John. 112511Tank Corps Bob
johntaylor Posted 20 February , 2011 Posted 20 February , 2011 HAINES, William James. 92752“B” Section, Tank Corps KIA 10/12/1917. Hi, this entry looks strange as casualty lists don't normally list the section (unfortunately). I see the CWGC contains this information but 'Following the Tanks' lists Pte Haines as being from B Battalion which is much more likely. There's no more information in the standard sources (SDGW, medal card, Tank Corps Book of Honour) so the only way to be sure would be to check the B Bn War Diary and hope it contains a casualty list. Cheers, John
bts1970 Posted 20 February , 2011 Author Posted 20 February , 2011 John Many thanks for the pointer Best regards Bob
bts1970 Posted 6 July , 2011 Author Posted 6 July , 2011 Cross checking SDGW /ODGW / CWGC i have found 14 deaths for the Tank Corps 25th August 1918. From there i have found NO listed 10th Battalion casualties other than my man Bailey (Not sure for later DOW),just 4th, 6th,7th, 9th & 11th Battalion lads.NO officers listed for this date either. I did find 2 lads who i cannot find CWGC O`Mahoney, Vincent 40352 Rushin, Stanley 96759 From other links i found Albert, 25th August 1918 10th Battalion with 2nd Brigade, NZ Division, IV Corps (OH) 10th Battalion had 8 tanks in action on August 25th 1918. A Company [Composite Company] OIC Captain Palmer C J7, 9334, Lt Winchcombe-Taylor J,J8, 9253, 2Lt Hart ALB, J21, 9390, Lt Quire JA, J22, 9396, 2Lt Bushy WH, J17, 9020, 2Lt Burns ACM, J29, 9417, Sgt Reeves W,J39, 9191, Capt Harrap SJ,And one other unidentified tank. Orders 2nd New Zealand brigade, on the left of the Division, to advance to a line east of Avesnes and along the Bapaume Sapignes Road as far as The Monument. (OH) To assemble g50b.50.50 at 4am. One section (J39 and presumably J29, J17 and an unidentified tank) jumping off line H19a.20.35 to H25b.90.[80] [last digits unclear] with the objective of the Arras Bapaume road and exploitation any success eastwards. J39 to follow infantry from behind Bufvillers to H15a.3.6. The other section (J7, J8, J21, J22) was to attack Avesnes-Les-Bapaume. J21 to move to SP under direction of ROTs point at RR crossing near Avesnes-les-Bapaume. Account of operations J17 was knocked out by a gas shell at H19c7.4 whilst heading to the start point. J29 broke down and failed to start. The other six tanks attacked [the company commanders report says seven but this must be an error]. Five engaged the enemy, five reached their objectives and five rallied at G23d.9.8. One tank had received a direct hit about H19d, one ditched and one broke its rear sprockets at H19c.7.4. (possibly J17) J7 fired 20 rounds 6 pdr and 500 rounds SAA. Heavy mist until 7pm, clear thereafter. With other tanks in section stsrted form G30.b.30.60 and went down sunken road into village. Entered village and split off with another tank and went down a small road which crossed the railway at H26d.3.8. Engaged enemy in village, rallied. Met no enemy so turned back and advanced with infantry along the Bapaume Road. Turned back and rallied, breaking down for or a time en route. J8 started at 4.30 and went up Grevillers Avesnes Road crossed the railway at H27a.7.? and then went to the village in thick mist, was impeded at the far end of the village by clouds of gas. Tank met with allocated company of New Zealanders and went through Avesnes. Fired on Mgs that were firing form H27a. Tank then went up Bapaume Road to H26b.35.25 then turned left and dealt with hostile Mgs. Then met an advanced platoon of New Zealanders in the village before the tank silenced Mgs firing form H20 and H21. Tank patrolled around the village and reached H27a.10.00. Infantry were by now holding Avesnes. So the tank returned and rallied. J21 fired 10 rounds 6 pdr and 100 rounds SAA. Started at 2 am. Zero hour 5 am. Followed J22 into village along main road and railroad, fired at all likely targets then returned and infantry signalled all clear. Proceeded along the roads through villages of Avesness-es.Bapaume. Reached objective at 6 am and stayed there for ¾ hour. J39 fired 85 rounds 6 pdr (80 shell, 5 case) and 120 rounds SAA. Started at 4.35 am. Zero hour 5 am. Started on time and met infantry, proceeded ahead and met a tank of 7th battalion. Went forward firing 6 pdrs hign in the direction of the enemy. Reached Bapaume road via the railway then turned north but became lost in the mist (thick enough so the horns of the tank werent visible) so stopped and asked position of an infantry officer. Went to Biefvillers. Engaged enemy Mgs with Case shot then retired and rallied as tracks were damaged. J22 no BHS, mentioned on J21s BHS. Either the unidentified tank or J22 were presumably the tank that was knocked out. Summary Total Tanks: 8 Failed to Start: 2 Engaged enemy: 5 Ditched / Broke Down: 1 Hit and Knocked out: 1 Rallied: 4
ss002d6252 Posted 6 July , 2011 Posted 6 July , 2011 O'Mahoney http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=295518 Rushen http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1748376
bts1970 Posted 6 July , 2011 Author Posted 6 July , 2011 Thanks for that, neither of those were 10th Battalion either! does that make my man the only casualty from a possible direct hit to his tank? or maybe he was elsewhere? or maybe ? Best regards Bob
tanks3 Posted 7 July , 2011 Posted 7 July , 2011 Hi Bob, Details on SWB list for Hedges is limited. Shows badge number as being B320346. Enlisted 1/7/15 discharged 19/2/19 - cause wounds. Thats all I am afraid Tanks3
bts1970 Posted 8 July , 2011 Author Posted 8 July , 2011 Tanks3 thanks for the extra info, appreciated Bob
Sidearm Posted 8 July , 2011 Posted 8 July , 2011 2/Lt W.H. Bushy, commander of J22 should read Busby. His tank may well have been knocked out. By 29 September the same tank (9396) was serving with the 301st Battalion, AEF. This may suggest it was damaged, handed to salvage, recovered, repaired and re-issued to the Americans. Unfortunately it might also mean that the tank was just handed straight to the Americans by 10th Battalion; need to dig further... Gwyn
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