nikki32 Posted 5 December , 2007 Share Posted 5 December , 2007 I'm afraid I am a complete newbie at this. I am so ignorant I don't even know what a 2nd officer is?! One of my relations (George Charles May is listed as 2nd officer - HMT 2268. Can anyone let me know what this is and point me in the right direction of researching what he would have done in the first world war? Any help gratefully received. Nikki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 5 December , 2007 Share Posted 5 December , 2007 Second Officer is a rank for officers in the Merchant Marine. Here's the National Archives research guide to their service records. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalog...?sLeafletID=131 Mercantile Marine men often served in the Royal Naval Reserve, there are plenty of threads about them on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibeltarik Posted 5 December , 2007 Share Posted 5 December , 2007 I'm afraid I am a complete newbie at this. I am so ignorant I don't even know what a 2nd officer is?! One of my relations (George Charles May is listed as 2nd officer - HMT 2268. Can anyone let me know what this is and point me in the right direction of researching what he would have done in the first world war? Any help gratefully received. Nikki Nikki, I think you will find that the HMT part of the ships name is 'His Majesties Transport' - As such, a 2nd Officer would be a 2nd Officer in the Merchant Navy - that is a Navigating Officer on the bridge of the ship - as a 2nd Officer it is likely he could hold a 1st Mate's ticket but equally depending on manpower movements he could even hold a Master's Ticket or even a 2nd Mate's ticket. I hope this helps, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki32 Posted 5 December , 2007 Author Share Posted 5 December , 2007 Thanks for the info - at least I have some idea of what he was now!! To get more info does it mean a trip to the national archives? I've had a quick look on the thread that was kindly posted but to be honest I was somewhat overwhelmed!! Can I discover the ship he was on etc? Is it possible to download a copy of his service records etc? Sorry to be so ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikefry Posted 5 December , 2007 Share Posted 5 December , 2007 Nikki, I think you will find that the HMT part of the ships name is 'His Majesties Transport' - As such, a 2nd Officer would be a 2nd Officer in the Merchant Navy - that is a Navigating Officer on the bridge of the ship - as a 2nd Officer it is likely he could hold a 1st Mate's ticket but equally depending on manpower movements he could even hold a Master's Ticket or even a 2nd Mate's ticket. I hope this helps, Chris Now. Where did I get the idea that HMT stood for His Majesties Trawler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARABIS Posted 5 December , 2007 Share Posted 5 December , 2007 Hello Mike, I have attached part of a D.S.C. citation from the Supplement to the London Gazette which might be of help to you. Kind regards, ARABIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted 5 December , 2007 Share Posted 5 December , 2007 hello mike, i believe the restrivo was one of slieghts trawlers of grimsby, i am going into the grimsby archives tomorrow and will look it up, also if you want, try and obtain a photo, regards, john p.s. the restrivo was a grimsby trawler GY265 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikefry Posted 5 December , 2007 Share Posted 5 December , 2007 hello mike, i believe the restrivo was one of slieghts trawlers of grimsby, i am going into the grimsby archives tomorrow and will look it up, also if you want, try and obtain a photo, regards, john p.s. the restrivo was a grimsby trawler GY265 Not my thread! I was just interposing the idea that HMT referred to an armed trawler during WWI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki32 Posted 6 December , 2007 Author Share Posted 6 December , 2007 Ok guys, am now a bit more confused!! Can someone confirm how I would go about finding out what this relative was doing in the war??!! Ie - where would I look in the national archives for info? Sorry to be a pain but I would really like to get info before christmas as it is for a xmas pressie on our family history! And forgot to add my thanks for the info that people have given........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted 7 December , 2007 Share Posted 7 December , 2007 hello nikki, can you tell me were george charles may was born and if you know,what year, any info. you may have would help and i would be happy to try and help, regards, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadsac Posted 8 December , 2007 Share Posted 8 December , 2007 Nikki / ARABIS re Pittendrigh / RESTRIVO ; PITTENDRIGH James N/E Lt. RNR 80E130 H.M. Trawler Restrivo Rear Admiral British Aegean Sqdn. 22.02.18 Gazetted Rescue, under fire, of Italian Caique "St. Nicholas" 25.10.17 DSC In recognition of the gallant conduct and good seamanship under fire displayed by him in rescuing the Caique "St.Nicholas" on the 25.10.17. While on patrol a Caique was observed between the Trawler and the shore, dismantled and flying the Italian Flag. Lieutenant Pittendrigh, closed the Caique, took her in tow and towed her with her crew out of danger. While these operations were in progress the enemy maintained a hot fire from the shore, and the Trawler being armed with a three pounder only was unable to reply effectively and was fortunately not hit. Regards Sadsac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadsac Posted 8 December , 2007 Share Posted 8 December , 2007 Nikki / ARABIS, yet another re RESTRIVO ; NORQUAY James G 1246WSA Skipper RNR 80E130 H.M. Trawler Restrivo Rear Admiral British Aegean Sqdn. 22.02.18 Gazetted Rescue, under fire, of Italian Caique "St. Nicholas" 25.10.17 M in D In recognition of the gallant conduct and good seamanship under fire displayed by him in rescuing the Caique "St.Nicholas" on the 25.10.17. While on patrol a Caique was observed between the Trawler and the shore, dismantled and flying the Italian Flag. Lieutenant Pittendrigh, closed the Caique, took her in tow and towed her with her crew out of danger. While these operations were in progress the enemy maintained a hot fire from the shore, and the Trawler being armed with a three pounder only was unable to reply effectively and was fortunately not hit. KOKO Sadsac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAClayton Posted 28 July , 2008 Share Posted 28 July , 2008 Would be interested in hearing from John Baxter again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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