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1/7/1916 casualty trio to the 16th middlesex .


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Hi , can anyone please tell me how much you could expect to pay for a 1/7/1916 casualty trio to a private in the 16th Middlesex regiment . I appreciate this would vary greatly depending on how many people were interested and where they were offered for sale , but a bit of a guide would be appreciated . Many thanks , Steve .

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Is there one for sale? For me it would depend on whether he had a known grave. I would suggest if it was a pair and had a buy it now price of £400 on ebay it would go immediately. For a trio? who knows.

I have known a plaque go for just over 200 quid but that was 8 years ago (i did buy another one for 60 but thats because the dealer had no idea who the man was)

Mick

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Thanks Mick . I have yet to find my holy grail , however i was curious as to how they compared to other battalions for the same date . It would seem that £400 for a 1st of July trio seems a good deal , however £600 does not seem unusual . I would think that it more likely to come across a pair than a trio to the 16th Middlesex . Steve .

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I agree about the pair. My interest was started by a coincidence. I found a badge and shoulder title after deep ploughing on Hawthorn Ridge. A week later I then saw a plaque for sale, named to Arhtur Aust....the name rang a bell and I bought it at a very reasonable price. He's buried in Hawthorn Ridge number 1, and so it continues.

Mick

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Trio Middlesex Regiment first day of the Somme casualty I'd expect more in the region of £800. As you rightly say pairs would be more common. SDGW has 483 casualties some of these would have been died of wounds. I hope one day you find your holy grail and I hope your bank manager is understanding.

Best of luck in your quest.

Kevin

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The other problem which affects the bank account is that there is a 1st July collector who really does pay over the odds. i have been outbid on a couple of lots to the R. Fus by the same person and i wasn't shy on the bidding.

Mick

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I hope your bank manager is understanding.

Kevin

I'd worry more about the wife.

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I suppose anyone who outbids your considered max is paying "over the odds" - but only within your own terms of reference.

It would seem the market for 1st July medals will almost inevitably catch up with the silly amount you pay now - especially given the inevitable arrival of 1st July 2016.

No doubt the underbidder for Hugh Grant's Warhol at 2 million a few years ago was a bit upset went Hughie boy sold it on for 10 million.

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true enough, its all relative. The seller may well have thought it wasn't enough (in monetary terms how do we define these items? can we?).

Mick

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Yes, monetary value is a bit meaningless for these things - and 4 figure prices seem an inevitable norm as a consequence! After all a grand now buys you a half decent TV or a rather small part of a typical motor car.

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A 1/7/16 trio to 1/8th Warks went for £650 from Dixons recently. Thats the price I would expect. As a side and I am kicking my self now I let a MM 14/15trio to 16th M'sex go today at Bham. All in original boxes and envelopes, copy war diary and won Aug 1917 by L/Cpl Bates. £550 was asked and he let it go for less!!! A fool am I!!!!!!!

TT

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Hi,

I have in my collection a 1914/15 trio to PS-2329 Pte E G Kempster 16th Middlesex KIA 1st July 1916 and his brother 14/15 trio to 1551 Pte H Kempster Buckinghamshire Yeomanry, discharged due to wounds. A recent valuation put them in excess of 4 figures.( about 4 times what I paid) I also have a 1914 star trio to S-6464 Pte W H Marshall 2nd Middlesex KIA 1st July 1916, which I was lucky enough to get at a very good price as it was a reunited group - 3 medals over 2 years.

It is still possible to find them, but it takes a lot more luck and effort these days - 3 months ago I picked up a Victory medal to a 1st July casualty to 3/6556 Pte A May, 1st bn Somerset LI 25 pounds.

Happy hunting,

Rick

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You lucky man Rick ! Other than ebay / speedbid where would be worth looking to find such a trio ??? Regards , Steve .

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Trio and plaque to Ernest Derbyshire, 1st 5th Notts and Derby, kia 1st July 1916 went for £860 at Bamfords auction at Derby last month. John

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