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Who can find the worst indexing at Ancestry.com?

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Sue

You've just given the example of two alternative's based upon specialist knowledge, easily put input into a comparative system table, or as an extension to the Gazetteer link I highlighted with some rules. I only spent 5 minutes, and found it on the internet so Ancestry could have easily found it and extended it. They should have built, or already have the table built from their other scanning projects.

I know it can be done because it's what I do for a living, help companies with large databases and their data problems, and these issues are always the same with source data. You need discipline, training build rules around allowable valid characters, tables to compare the data with more rules.

Ancestry are suppose to be experts in this, and from the examples given they are not.

Mart

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Jim Clay

False dichotomy. It's good that they've released these records quickly and cheaply, but that doesn't preclude giving users the opportunity to supply corrections, which some of us would be happy to do for no money (after all, if everyone had to be paid to supply historical information this forum wouldn't exist). The mistake that Ancestry, like many other digitization projects, appear to have made is to assume that a digital resource is ever finished. There are always more corrections or improvements to be made. No source is ever likely to be perfect, but we can try to make them better.

Fair enough, Gavin but, in fairness to Ancestry, they do have facilities for users to correct errors - although, last time I looked, somewhat restricted, ie person names but not place names. So there's room for improvement there. Getting these indexes right was always going to be a very difficult job - as Sue's examples above ably illustrate.

Jim

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Michael

I can understand mistakes on unusual placenames but how about this one

A H Bethell - Lover Pool Regiment

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Sue Light

Yes, I think that Michael's example shouldn't happen with such a relatively small number of regiments/units - that should be easy to sort out. But I still have serious doubts about coping hundreds of possible variations of tens of thousands of place names.

Sue

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Sparky53

Doing a look up for someone and their rellie's occupation and the child in me made me laught at this:-

Address: Siller Hill

Occupation: Fartor's Apprentice

ED: 2

Page: 9 (click to see others on page)

Household schedule number: 38

Line: 18

Roll: CSSCT1851_66

Household Members: Name Age

Ann Annand 8

David Annand 17

John Annand 53

Mary Annand 24

James Robertson 20

Mary Webster 4

1851 Scotland census

Jane

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Chris_Baker

How about this.

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The papers read "East Anglian ...". Shocking.

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The Inspector

Chris, I've been searching on Ancestry for 12 months and found dozens of howlers, and corrected same (Census that is) perhaps we should remember which groups of people did the transcribing. They were guests of Her Majesty for one census (1901) so why should they care??

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j-munden

Here's another example.

I was looking for the Duke family in Dowlish Wake in one of the censuses. Joan Duke was transcribed as Ivar Puke - and the surname was the same for the rest of the family.

Makes me sick!!

I understood that a lot of the transcriptions were outsourced to the Far East - but that still begs the questions about why the initial placement of the contract didn't have QA built in, and some mechanisms to hold the contractor to account for making corrections to wrong entries!

Cheers

James

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Michael Johnson

I hit upon Dvr. Chand Khan of the 1st Army Service Corps, with a Kurdistan GSM.

Indian Army Service Corps, of course.

But to be fair even the National Archives slips. My Gunner was listed as "Royal Fusiliers" as they read R.F.A. as R. Fu.

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punjab612

From the latest batch of service records

"Paust of St Bicheals A??, Coventry of Lancaster"

should read Parish of St Micheals Ashton, County of Lancaster

The Ahton it refers to is Ashton under Lyne but the documnt has is charred at that point.

Peter

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SPotter

How about this classic...

Irish Camel Corps?!!

(Should have been Imperial of course)

Regards

Steve

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TotalNovice

Hi

I have been researching my family history and am really shocked at the standard of Ancestry records. I have paid my subscription but only due to a need for speed. I am trying to complete the Family History for my mothers 80th next year.

However, I have written to Ancestry twice and cleary shown that it 'ridiculous' what is transcribed and that even my 8 year old son could do a better job. NO REPLY. I have also written to Watchdog (BBC) as I agree with previous threads about the way our Heritage is becoming a money spinning gimmick!!

Perhaps a few more mails to Watchdog and they may set the hounds on Ancestry!!

Regards

Pete

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seaJane

In the vessel search option on the 1901 census, HMS Daedalus appears as Ams Dasdalus. I am still not quite sure, given that I was looking for someone who was supposed to be aboard her but wasn't, how I tracked her down!

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The Inspector

Hi Chris,

It seems that everyone who uses Ancestry gets very annoyed at all the mistakes, I do. I have found a way of putting corrections on the system and available for viewing, other than just alternate names. By typing in the same name ie. Chris Baker but then leave a space in the name eg. C hris Baker, then add whatever the correction is in the text, the database accepts it and flags up the name with an alternate as usual. I've done it loads of times for wrong ages, relationships, gender etc.. Anyone then searching can view the original and check for themselves. Hope this helps relieve the frustration, I wish they paid us for our corrections!!!!!

Regards, Barry

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keithmroberts

Just found another one

Percy Young no 52448

According to NA in the Royal Fusiliers

According to Ancestry in the Royal Hussars.

Still trying to find the latter regiment! Having viewed the Mic it was an easy quick reading error, but it surely doesn't make it easier.

Keith

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wilkokcl

In 20 mins searching on Ancestry i've come across .......... a soldier in the 2nd Dragoon Guards recorded as "2nd DraGrenadier Guards".

A Christian name of Geoffrey transcribed as "Groffrey"

and someone born in "Batticaloa, Ceylon" transcribed as "Batticalod, Oxfordshire, England" ???? Quite how they got that last one so different I can't imagine.

Mark

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stu

I'am considering subscribing to Ancestry.com, however after reading some of the comments in this thread I'am starting to have doubts, can anyone tell me if it is worthwhile and what exactly can I expect for my money.

Cheers.

Stuart

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MelPack

I lay claim to finding the oldest soldiers - all born about 1790!

Harry Armstrong 28 abt 1790 11 Malinerston St, Dadiham, Lanes 1818 26

George Beagley 19 abt 1790 Alton Hants 1809

Bertie Blasby 18 abt 1790 St Margarets Suffolk 1808 38

William Booth 18 abt 1790 Bethnal Green Middx 1808 8

William ?? Brown 28 abt 1790 1818 11

Reginald Augustus Chard 18 abt 1790 Newport M?? 1808 9

Frank William Cooper 18 abt 1790 St Johns Kent 1808 50

Walter Dearden 18 abt 1790 Manchester Lancashire 1808 3

Alfred Dowling 41 abt 1790 Stroud Gloucestershire 191?? 9

Joseph Dewar Durbidge 18 abt 1790 Stepney Middlesex 1808 7

Edwin John Durbin 18 abt 1790 East Harpten Somerset 1808 70

Charles Frederick Gale 18 abt 1790 Newport S W Hampshire 1808 8

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Jim Clay

I'am considering subscribing to Ancestry.com, however after reading some of the comments in this thread I'am starting to have doubts, can anyone tell me if it is worthwhile and what exactly can I expect for my money.

Depends what you want, Stuart. I've found Ancestry's range of data sets very useful in my family history research. Yes, the indexing leaves a lot to be desired but, with some lateral thinking and a lot of perseverance, it's usually possible eventually to find even the most elusive record. Point is, the records are there - or, in the case of the WW1 soldiers' records, will, in time, be there.

If you don't want to splash out on an annual sub, other 'suck it and see' shorter subs are available.

Jim

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Greyhound
with some lateral thinking and a lot of perseverance, it's usually possible eventually to find even the most elusive record.

Yes indeed. With the census, I've managed to find some people who don't appear on the index at all. If you know roughly where they might have been living, you can easily narrow down your search to a particular area and view the original pages in order.

If you're doing both family and separate military research, there's a lot for your money there. They are pretty generous with their free trials, so go have a look. And several of us have found that they're open to negotiation re discounts! ;)

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The Inspector
I'am considering subscribing to Ancestry.com, however after reading some of the comments in this thread I'am starting to have doubts, can anyone tell me if it is worthwhile and what exactly can I expect for my money.

Cheers.

Stuart

Hi Stuart, I started on Ancestry just over 12 months ago to do my family tree as my mum was a twin given away at birth. To cut a long story short I have found 2 living aunties and cousins I never knew about. as well as distant relations in Oz, We regularly converse re our research, The GWF is amazing and has helped me to fill in a lot of gaps. Still looking for my g/father though. So if you come across a Leonard Holland (Born Levi) from Ashby de La Zouch 28.8.1892, I'd love to hear. He got kicked out of the Navy and allegedly was a soldier in the Hants Regt.

Happy Hunting, Barry

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Black Watch

Any help on this is appreciated.

Occupation Sorimepman Sguas Wright ??

Place of Birth Mamrch ?? Banffshire.

Ancestry are truly awful. Its like trying to do a cryptic crossword without the clues.

Neil

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HarryBettsMCDCM

Another Cambridgeshire local,Sergt Pearman,who was attached to the Nigeria Regt & awarded the AGS is listed by Ancestry as "Hingeria Regt",where Bracket??

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stu

Many thanks to all who replied, will go with the free trial first to see if it suits my needs.

Cheers.

Stuart

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HarryBettsMCDCM

I have ~despite the errors~ found it an excellent resource,I had been putting off obtaining MiC for ages~basically since the NA started charging £3.50 a pop & am now enjoying myself seeking out MiCs by the handful & Papers Galore,& have signed up for the duration,one of the best £10+ a month I've ever spent so far :)

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