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Terry Denham
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CWGC added the following 'new' WW1 casualties to its Debt of Honour database today – Tuesday 13th November.

AM.II Thomas Campbell BEYNON

27905 Recruits Depot, Royal Flying Corps

Died 10.05.16 Age 34

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

Lieutenant Malcolm Coton BROWN

90 Sqdn, Royal Air Force

Died 23.07.18 Age 19

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

Cpl John Henry DORMAN

288796 14 TDS, Royal Air Force

Died 21.06.18 Age 24

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

Second Lieutenant Leslie James MITCHELL

94 Sqdn, Royal Flying Corps

Died 22.12.17 Age 28

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

Second Lieutenant Harold Griffith NELSON

59 Trng Sqdn, Royal Flying Corps

Died 22.01.18 Age 25

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

Capt Alfred Pelli WHITE DSO

Surrey Yeomanry (Queen Mary’s Regt)

Died 12.10.20

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

NOT FORGOTTEN

The above five airmen are further cases from the batch I put forward from ‘Airmen Died’.

BEYNON died of self-inflicted wounds

BROWN died in the crash of Dolphin D3700

DORMAN died when struck by propeller of DH.6 B2758

MITCHELL died in crash of Avro 504J B4258

NELSON died in crash of Bristol F2B B1236

Capt WHITE’s case did not go through GWF.

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Terry

well done

May They All Rest In Peace

Chris

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Times 24 Jan 1918

found this whilst trying out an exercise on trying to find non coms - by using the Times Digital Search Engine & just using the phrase "News In Brief" I have about 10 non coms - that is only the trial - I have only looked at a bit of 1914 & 1918 - food for thought

Chris

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Just heard from a pal o'mine:-

have just had a letter from CWGC saying that the MoD has approved the commemoration of 27548 Sgt John Steinberg RAF. He died on 4 June 1918, his death certificate saying that the cause of death was 'shock to system consequent on severe injuries (external) sustained in an airplane accident'. It took two years for the MoD to consider the case.

No doubt Terry will announce his commemoration in due course.

We've got the RAF, now for the R.N. landslide...

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Not sure whether it matters but

Capt Alfred Pelli WHITE DSO

Surrey Yeomanry (Queen Mary’s Regt)

Died 12.10.20

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

I have been researching him in connection with the raid on the Carolan House in Dublin in which he was killed

His second name was PELLY not PELLI (on his birth registration and on his commission)

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Corisande

If you let me have the documentary proof to that effect I will get it changed

Do you have anything else on him that may help me track down his grave

Cheers

Chris

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Re Alfred Pelly White

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/302...s/7612/page.pdf

is his commission. He is on the top left of the page, third man down

His birth is Jul/Sep 1896. White Alfred Pelly registered at Lambeth 1d 530 relevant cut from page below (if you want the whole reg page, PM me and I will email it (or you can get it from FreeBMD

alfred-pelly-whiite-birth.jpg

And his name is in full in 1911 census

1911Census.jpg

I have only just started, so I have little else on him (cannot find a MIC even). I have the 1901 census and 1911 census, my info to date on him is here - he is proving a difficult man to track.

Similarly if you can add anything for me I would be grateful

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I started another thread on "Capt White" killed in raid 12 Oct 1920

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/i...p;#entry1437796

It is looking as if it was "Alfred Philip White" not "Alfred Pelli/Pelly White" who was killed. It will take a lot more work to substantiate it. Press reports at the time never appear to get closer than "Capt A P White" of "Surreys". But "Pelli WHite" does not appear to have died then.

I will carry on digging, but at the moment my money is on "Philip"

You will see on the MIC on that thread, that "Philip" has on MIC died of wounds on 12 Oct 1920 in Ireland

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Corisande

I will be informing the relevant authorities about this one

Have just checked the cemetery records at Twickenham; no trace there

Chris

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Chris

Alfred Phillip White has Registration in Dublin North Oct - Dec 1920 Age (at Death): 40 Vol 2 Page 309 in the irish state records

So it is definitely "Philip/Phillip" who died not "Pelli/Pelly"

Mind you Philip/Phillip is no easier to tie down

I will dig away on the other thread I linked to.

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Im going to get his service file pulled so lets see what that brings up

Chris

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Capt Alfred Pelli WHITE DSO

Surrey Yeomanry (Queen Mary’s Regt)

Died 12.10.20

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

Grave found Kingston Upon Thames Cemetery Section A General Grave 220

My thanks to everyone who has been involved in the search for this grave especially David Underdown

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I have been away for a while, and was tidying up my notes on Capt A P White.

I am still convinced that the man who died was Alfred Phillip White and not Alfred Pelli White

1. His death registration in Ireland is Alfred Phillip (sic) White

2. In the pension records you posted the link to, I could see no Alfred Pelli White, but there is mention of Alfred Philip White

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3. His medal card has Alfred Philip White

Granted he did not use the "P" much, but he never appears to have used "Pelli"

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the changes are all in hand with CWGC at the moment having received a copy of his service file. Everything on file confirms Alfred Phillip White

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Ok, thanks for the clarification

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Name: BROWN, MALCOLM CONTON

Initials: M C

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Lieutenant

Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force

Unit Text: 90th Sqdn.

Age: 19

Date of Death: 23/07/1918

N.B.: This casualty has been recently accepted for commemoration by the Commission. However, it will not be possible to add his name to this Memorial immediately. Please contact the Commission before planning a visit, for more information.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: Addenda Panel.

Memorial: BROOKWOOD (UNITED KINGDOM 1914-1918) MEMORIAL

Grave Found

Bronswood Cemetery Illinois

The key here was the 1929 Illinois Debt of Honour which listed him as a member of the RAF

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His AIR 76 (forenames given as Malcolm Cotton) gives his permanent address as 184 Oak Street, Hinsdale, Illinois (His parents' residence). Before joining up he was a Mechanical Engineering Student at Harvard and MIT. Killed in a flying accident at Brock... (unreadable, to me at least)

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David

The Illinios 1929 Debt of Honour was the final piece of the puzzle which showed his was RAF & was buried at Bronswood; then after googling I found a family history site that gave the grave sites

Chris

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His AIR 76 (forenames given as Malcolm Cotton) gives his permanent address as 184 Oak Street, Hinsdale, Illinois (His parents' residence). Before joining up he was a Mechanical Engineering Student at Harvard and MIT. Killed in a flying accident at Brock... (unreadable, to me at least)

Brockworth Glos

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Cpl John Henry DORMAN

288796 14 TDS, Royal Air Force

Died 21.06.18 Age 24

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

Grave found Durrington Cemetery Wilts

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CWGC added the following 'new' WW1 casualties to its Debt of Honour database today – Tuesday 13th November.

AM.II Thomas Campbell BEYNON

27905 Recruits Depot, Royal Flying Corps

Died 10.05.16 Age 34

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

I believe he is buried in the churchyard at Greenham, Berks.

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Hi Phil

We will of course need a burial register page for this to be confirmed

You know how to get hold of me

Cheers

Chris

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DORMAN, JOHN HENRY

Rank:Corporal

Service No:288796

Date of Death:21/06/1918

Age:24

Regiment/Service:Royal Air Force

No. 14 Training Depot Station

Grave Reference

CemeteryDURRINGTON CEMETERY

Additional Information:

N.B.

Recent research has shown that Corporal Dorman is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave.

Commemoration Moved From UK BOR

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