auchonvillerssomme Posted 9 November , 2007 Share Posted 9 November , 2007 As an obsessive reader of leaflets I came across this interesting little piece in a leaflet I picked up at Thiepval Visitors Centre. Published by 'The Battlefields on the Somme' Titled 'The Australians in the Somme' Le Hamel This village and its surrounding area are important feature in Australian military history. On 4 July 1918 with the support of American Forces, General Monash launched a spirited and victorious attack which for the first time combined infantry, artillery, tanks and parachute troops - a forerunner of modern war tactics. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 9 November , 2007 Share Posted 9 November , 2007 Mick Could this a mix up with the fact that parachutes were used to drop ammunition to troops in 1918, for the first time? Gunner Bailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 9 November , 2007 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2007 it probably is (hopefully is) something lost in translation, but it made me smile. I'm looking forward to the wings appearing on ebay. Mick The title is correct 'The Australians in The Somme' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 9 November , 2007 Share Posted 9 November , 2007 it probably is (hopefully is) something lost in translation, but it made me smile. Yes - many of the French leaflets contain some pretty funny errors due to poor translations, but you have to thank them for trying. GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted 9 November , 2007 Share Posted 9 November , 2007 G'Day Mick. Gunner Bailey is correct. Although it would have been a spectacular 'world first', there were no Aussie troops dropped from planes by parachute. At le Hamel it was only ammo and food. I think the only troops that packed 'chutes were the blokes in observation balloons. But what a sight it would have been to see seasoned Diggers dropping from the sky! And as an aside, my Great Uncle, a Lewis Gunner in the 44th Battalion was killed at le Hamel on the morning of July 4, 1918. Rupert Walton of Pingelly, Western Australia, RIP. Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 9 November , 2007 Share Posted 9 November , 2007 I think that GB has hit the nail on the head here. from 'Hamel' in the Battleground Europe series published by Pen & Sword and written by Peter A. Pedersen "Copying the technique used by the Germans on the Lys and the Aisne. No.9 Squadron would begin shuttling from Poulainville airfield near Bertangles after daybreak to parachute ammunition onto five drop zones or wherever the infantry displayed a white V-signal. Each of its twelve R.E.8's carried two 1,200-round boxes on a release mechanism designed by Captain L. J. Wackett, temporary commanding No.3 Squadron, Australian Flying Corps." From elsewhere I understand that this was machine-gun ammo and that 'V' of the white V-signal referred to 'Vickers' Regards Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 9 November , 2007 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2007 True enough although generally they are pretty accurate. Mick I think that GB has hit the nail on the head here. from 'Hamel' in the Battleground Europe series published by Pen & Sword and written by Peter A. Pedersen "Copying the technique used by the Germans on the Lys and the Aisne. No.9 Squadron would begin shuttling from Poulainville airfield near Bertangles after daybreak to parachute ammunition onto five drop zones or wherever the infantry displayed a white V-signal. Each of its twelve R.E.8's carried two 1,200-round boxes on a release mechanism designed by Captain L. J. Wackett, temporary commanding No.3 Squadron, Australian Flying Corps." From elsewhere I understand that this was machine-gun ammo and that 'V' of the white V-signal referred to 'Vickers' Regards Michael I will print that off and stick it on as an amendment. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 9 November , 2007 Share Posted 9 November , 2007 If the Aussies had indeed been the first paratroops, I think we`d certainly have heard quite a lot about it. In fact, they wouldn`t be called Diggers, they`d have been the Droppers ever after. Aussies don`t hide their lights under bushels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 9 November , 2007 Share Posted 9 November , 2007 LOL. Perhaps we were sending in that secret weapon - drop bears. See: http://www.geocities.com/muirnin/db.htm Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 9 November , 2007 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2007 But they are such a modest bunch! They probably just wanted to keep quiet about it. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 9 November , 2007 Share Posted 9 November , 2007 Agents were parachuted behind German lines from O/400s in 1918. Studies were carried out to see if troops could be delivered in the same way. In the end there were plans for the use of airborne troops in 1919 but these would not be dropped but landed behind the lines in specially converted O/400s. With the armistice these ideas were shelved and no further develpment carried out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Grande Guerre Posted 4 April , 2008 Share Posted 4 April , 2008 Perhaps some interesting pictures of the Wolfsberg at le Hamel and the campain of the Australians, south of the Somme in 1918. Click on SOMME 1918 - The Australians. Pierre pierreswesternfront.punt.nl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n cherry Posted 8 April , 2008 Share Posted 8 April , 2008 There is a diaorama of an airdrop over the Western Front at the Airborne Forces Museum at Aldershot....although it's currently closed pending it's move to Duxford.....I think it is of Hamel...although there were supplies dropped by air at the siege of Kut.....so probably that was the first attmept at aerial resupply..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Grande Guerre Posted 8 April , 2008 Share Posted 8 April , 2008 Indeed, n cherry, it was the first succesful dropping of ammunition supplies by parachutes in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 8 April , 2008 Author Share Posted 8 April , 2008 My original comment was tongue in cheek about the accuracy of the leaflet, the information about supply drops is certainly well documented. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige Posted 9 April , 2008 Share Posted 9 April , 2008 Aussies, modest, of course we are, We don't even talk about the cricket. Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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