research help please

[gary thomson]

hi, i am trying to get some info for my uncle whos grandfathers were both kia in the great war.the first is

private george marshall 14836 1st batt scots guards died 15/10/17 aged 39 buired dozinghem military cemetary.dont know any more than that im afraid.

the second is l/cpl thomas swan D.C.M. 484 2nd batt black watch.died 5/12/14 aged 26.buired at brown rd military cemetary festubert. again do not know any more than that.

i have tried looking up the "london gazette" archives to try and find out how he was awarded the dcm but could not find any record of it, but that could be down to my poor computer skills.

the only info we found on both men came from the commonwealth war graves web site so if anyone can provide any more info it would be much apprieciated.thank you

[Sparky53]

Have you looked at researching a soldier on the parent site long long trail?

Here is the Gazette Entry:-

Gazette Issue 29117 published on the 30 March 1915. Page 32 of 50

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/ViewPDF.a...t=&similar=

484 Lcpl Swan T, 2 Battalion Royal Highlanders

For gallant conduct and ability on

23rd and 24th November, 1914,

in leading a paity of men along the

enemy's trench, and for good service

in bomb-throwing. He was killed

on 5th December, 1914.

To find how more you are going to need to get hold of the relevant war diaries.

1 Scots Guards:- WO 95/1219

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalog...;accessmethod=0

2 Black Watch :- WO 95/3948

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalog...;accessmethod=0

National Archive best bet unless you live near relevant Regimental Museums

Jane

[Stebie9173]

For the Scots Gurdsman contact the Scots Guards Regimental Archivist at Wellington Barracks, Birdcage Walk, London, for a copy of his service records. There will probably be a charge in the region of £30. The vast majority of Guards records survive, unlikely the other Regiments and Corps whose records were largely lost in the Blitz. (Only about 30% of records remain, some almost unreadable).

Steve.

[gary thomson]

thank you for that link to the gazette jane

thanks for the info steve.i assumed all service records had been destroyed.gary

[wullmackie]

From SDGW

Gdsn G Marshall 14836. DOW

Born, York

Enlisted, Leeds

Residence, Bradford.

L/Cpl T Swan 484. KIA

Born, Anstruther

Enlisted Dunfermline

All the best

Wull

[gary thomson]

thanks to all who replied with info.

to wull mackie, that g. marshall from leeds is not my uncles grandfather. but the swan one would appear to be correct. could you please tell me where you got that info from.thanks

[wullmackie]

Gary

From CWGC site

Name: MARSHALL

Initials: G

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Scots Guards

Unit Text: 1st Bn.

Date of Death: 15/10/1917

Service No: 14836

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: Xl. I. 11.

Cemetery: DOZINGHEM MILITARY CEMETERY

From Soldiers Died Great War

Name: MARSHALL

Initials: G

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Scots Guards 1st Bn.

Service No: 14836

DOW 15/10/1917

Born, York

Enlisted, Leeds

Residence, Bradford

All the best

Wull