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PhilB

Lloyd George`s Statue

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montbrehain

Without a doubt ! "MO"

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per ardua per mare per terram

It is about time!

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Alan Lines

Surely it was put in the wrong place? Wouldn't have been better to scrap Haig's one and put Lloyd George's in its place.

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DaveBrigg

I saw this being debated on Newsnight the other evening. Reference was made to his support for aerial bombing of 'colonials', selling honours and entering into a pact with the Tories, but also of leadership which helped to win the war, and the introduction of pensions. It was mentioned that if Jan Smuts could have a statue there, it would be unfair to ban Lloyd George.

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Chris_Baker
Wouldn't have been better to scrap Haig's one and put Lloyd George's in its place.

Oh dear, not that old chestnut. Why don't we burn a few books at the same time, eh?

Actually, despite the fact in my opinion he was a slippery, devious, conniving individual, it is about time there was a statue to DLG. He was a war-winning PM, after all. I don't particularly like the design but better that than nothing.

Why aren't there statues to William Robertson and Henry Wilson? (None that I know of, anyway).

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IanA

"Slippery, devious, conniving" - you missed out cheating, lecherous and self-serving.

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david crouch
Oh dear, not that old chestnut. Why don't we burn a few books at the same time, eh?

Actually, despite the fact in my opinion he was a slippery, devious, conniving individual, it is about time there was a statue to DLG. He was a war-winning PM, after all. I don't particularly like the design but better that than nothing.

Why aren't there statues to William Robertson and Henry Wilson? (None that I know of, anyway).

I think a better idea would be to tear down the DH statue (giving the so called masses what they want) and build a new one of the two together shaking hands.

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welshdoc

They should simply ensure when they make it that the standard size motorway cone fits on the head. This is the norm for statues of political figures in Cardiff. :rolleyes:

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Chris_Baker
giving the so called masses what they want

The "masses" would not know or care who DH was. Nor DLG.

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PhilB

The Liberal flame is not dead, though. Lembit seems to be a worthy representative of many aspects of DLGism. :rolleyes:

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Bernard_Lewis
Actually, despite the fact in my opinion he was a slippery, devious, conniving individual, it is about time there was a statue to DLG.

Sorry Chris, but your description is wrong. I thought he was a politician?

I think its a good idea. Far from perfect but a great orator, war winner and social reformer. Churchill referred to him as 'the master' and himself as 'the servant'.

Bernard

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Alan Lines

Bernard you should know by now that it's o.k to dis politicians but doing the same to Haig etc is just ignorance worthy only of the "masses". :rolleyes: Chris is right Lloyd George did appear at times to have similar weaknesses to Haig but at the end of the day he was a War winning politician who tried to do so without the continued learning curve losses of 1st July 1916.

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truthergw

If politicians generally deserve a statue then LG does. He was highly regarded in his day. The cash for peerages scandal blighted his last years or he may well have had a statue before the last war. After the second war, he was a bit too distant, I expect. Thank goodness that a scandal like that could not happen nowadays eh? I would like to see a modern biography. Love him or hate him, he was a pivotal figure in his time.

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PhilB
Chris is right Lloyd George did appear at times to have similar weaknesses to Haig

I would have thought their weaknesses were quite different!

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Bernard_Lewis

Alan - I think we have a double dose of irony in our posts? If we still had the coaley here in Wales (or could at least dig it out at economic prices) we'd be rich! (not to mention the steely and coppery smelting...)

Bernardey

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PhilB

I`ve seen a recent TV film of Welsh miners working a seam of hoola hoops or something. Boyo.

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Bernard_Lewis

There's lovely, now look you.

Bernard

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PhilB

I have to admit it was an advert, so not necessarily true to life. What was it they were mining? Pot Noodles or something.

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Frank_East

After his political service to the country, DLG can also be remembered as one of those in British influential circles who was seduced by Hitler and National Socialism on visiting Hitler in his lair on the Obersalzburg.

On his visit to see Hitler on September 3rd 1936,DLG, impressed by the Berghof's large picture window said to Hitler."What a marvellous spot you have chosen for leisure here at Obersalzsburg" On his return to Berchtesgaden, LDG's daughter greeted him jokingly,exclaiming "Heil Hitler" and LDG answered "Yes indeed, Heil Hitler, I say that too, for he is truely a great man"

From the meeting, Hitler apparently enjoyed a feeling of triumph to meet the victor of the Great War who now spared no words in praising National Socialism.

3 years later to the day, Great Britain was at war again with Germany.DLG awaited a call from his country. He was't called.

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