ellshimmer Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 I have just joined this forum and I would like to know what regiment these two soldiers are in,please.I beleive they are my Grandads two brothers.My grandad was in Royal Field Artillery Sgt. D.C.M. M.M but I know nothing of his brothers.Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max7474 Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 Both are Northumbria Fusilers (could be RWF but the badge appears to be one piece). The one with the collar badges on the right is in a Pioneer unit. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellshimmer Posted 9 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 9 October , 2007 Both are Northumbria Fusilers (could be RWF but the badge appears to be one piece). The one with the collar badges on the right is in a Pioneer unit. Alan Thankyou.If they are Grandad's brothers they were from Scruoton, North Yorkshire, would they be in this regiment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 RWF = Royal Welsh Fusiliers, by the way. The man on the left has a good conduct stripe denoting two years of good conduct in the Army. (By the looks of him, he must have enlisted when he was about 12!!) Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon6640 Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 Do you know their names as a quick search on the MIC database will confirm. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellshimmer Posted 9 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 9 October , 2007 Do you know their names as a quick search on the MIC database will confirm. Jon There was 3 brothers John William Kemp 23/10/1890 Arthur Edward kemp 4/9/1894 Herbert Kemp 22/01/1902 All born Scruton, Northallerton,North Yorkshire. Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellshimmer Posted 9 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 9 October , 2007 There was 3 brothers John William Kemp 23/10/1890 Arthur Edward kemp 4/9/1894 Herbert Kemp 22/01/1902 All born Scruton, Northallerton,North Yorkshire. Thankyou This is the photo of the third brother(if I have uploaded correctly, all new to me).There is a card with this one it reads M & mme Jules Dupuis-Depinoy Belgique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max7474 Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 I would say he is NF as well as the size and shape of the flame of the greanade is too big for the RWF which is much smaller in proportion. Again this chap has pioneer collar badges on. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffsreg Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 And again,..... he looks so young!... he would only be about 5' 2"/5'3" as well.. Ivan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellshimmer Posted 9 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 9 October , 2007 I would say he is NF as well as the size and shape of the flame of the greanade is too big for the RWF which is much smaller in proportion. Again this chap has pioneer collar badges on. Alan Thank you again. I have these pictures in grandad's bible, but of course he did not write on the back, who they were.I am very grateful to all who has helped with this. I have alot of military papers with Grandad on he was Frederick kemp enlisted August 1914 reg no 39675, RFA 107 brigade, A Battery.Mentioned in London Gazzette for D.C.M. awarded France 1918. Regards Ellener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 soldier three is a drummer, wearing the gilding metal drum upper right sleeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian turner Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 Good chance these are they.... From NA MICs: Description Medal card of Kemp, John W Corps Regiment No Rank Northumberland Fusiliers 3/8493 Private John appears to have been a casualty: Name: KEMP, JOHN WILLIAM Initials: J W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Northumberland Fusiliers Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Age: 35 Date of Death: 24/04/1915 Service No: 8493 Additional information: Husband of Catherine Kemp, of 8, Kendrew St., Darlington. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 8 and 12. Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL ++ Description Medal card of Kemp, Arthur Edward Corps Regiment No Rank Northumberland Fusiliers 17/530 Private Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 Thankyou.If they are Grandad's brothers they were from Scruoton, North Yorkshire, would they be in this regiment? Northumberland Fusiliers were a Tyneside Regiment and thereabouts. 30 minutes up the A1! The 17th Bn were the North East Railway Pioneers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7t2ndswinger Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 QUOTE (Phil_B @ Oct 9 2007, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Northumberland Fusiliers were a Tyneside Regiment and thereabouts. 30 minutes up the A1! And probably 15 minutes in 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellshimmer Posted 9 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 9 October , 2007 Good chance these are they.... From NA MICs: Description Medal card of Kemp, John W Corps Regiment No Rank Northumberland Fusiliers 3/8493 Private John appears to have been a casualty: Name: KEMP, JOHN WILLIAM Initials: J W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Northumberland Fusiliers Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Age: 35 Date of Death: 24/04/1915 Service No: 8493 Additional information: Husband of Catherine Kemp, of 8, Kendrew St., Darlington. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 8 and 12. Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL ++ Description Medal card of Kemp, Arthur Edward Corps Regiment No Rank Northumberland Fusiliers 17/530 Private Ian Thankyou for taking the time to find this information.I have just found John william's father's death notice in the 1940's and it says 'chief mourners Mr William Kemp(son) and Arthur was present too. So there must be 2 John William's, or another explanation.I have a vague memory of visiting this William as he was known in about 1963.But once again the information was very interesting insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellshimmer Posted 9 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 9 October , 2007 soldier three is a drummer, wearing the gilding metal drum upper right sleeve. Thankyou for this information, it's not just an old photo now.I feel as if I know him more now.He doesn't look very old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian turner Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 He looks so young... Colouring not so easy as it is a feint image, but here goes. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian turner Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 OK, so I had to do the others as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellshimmer Posted 10 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 10 October , 2007 OK, so I had to do the others as well... Thankyou so much, it actually brings the photo more to life.This picture postcard is written in French and how did they have the money to have photos taken in a studio surroundingOnce again brilliant thankyou. regards Ellener I must say this site is the best,I posted a query re. some ships and someone has given me answers there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian turner Posted 10 October , 2007 Share Posted 10 October , 2007 Thankyou so much, it actually brings the photo more to life.This picture postcard is written in French and how did they have the money to have photos taken in a studio surroundingOnce again brilliant thankyou. regards Ellener I must say this site is the best,I posted a query re. some ships and someone has given me answers there. Don't forget that not many people had personal cameras at that time, and nearly all photographs were from professional studios. No doubt they were priced for the average pocket then. You will note that the majority of all the portraits of servicemen you see here were originally studio pics. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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