isadore Posted 7 October , 2007 Share Posted 7 October , 2007 Do you think this s the crest of the Royal Army Medical Corps? I saw it in a local graveyard the line of the inscription reads "....Patrick (McKeon) died Easter Week 1916 aged 37.... I cant find a record of him anywhere Thanks Isadore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 7 October , 2007 Share Posted 7 October , 2007 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isadore Posted 7 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 7 October , 2007 Thanks Phil. I thought it was but if he died in 1916 wouldnt he be on the CWGC Roll of Honour? And if not would there be a reason he isn't? Isadore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenwoodman Posted 7 October , 2007 Share Posted 7 October , 2007 Comparing with illustrations in a book it certainly looks like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenwoodman Posted 7 October , 2007 Share Posted 7 October , 2007 His RAMC engagement had perhaps finished pre-war, and he was unfit to go back in. Died in 1916 of causes unrelated to the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 7 October , 2007 Share Posted 7 October , 2007 Perhaps something to do with the Easter Rising? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pegum Posted 7 October , 2007 Share Posted 7 October , 2007 QUOTE (Phil_B @ Oct 7 2007, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Perhaps something to do with the Easter Rising? He is not in the list of casualties for the Easter Rising. No-one in the R.A.M.C. was killed in the rebellion but three were wounded: A.A. Devey, Sgt.H.C.Fewkes and Cpl.C.Mills If he died of illness while at home on leave, or perhaps after being invalided out, would he have had a C.W.G.C. grave? Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenwoodman Posted 7 October , 2007 Share Posted 7 October , 2007 Following invaliding out, if cause of death could be attributed to service he would definitely have been entitled to a CWGC stone But it would have been the choice of his family to have a CWGC stone or a private family one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted 7 October , 2007 Share Posted 7 October , 2007 But did CWGC grave stones exist in 1916? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 7 October , 2007 Share Posted 7 October , 2007 But did CWGC grave stones exist in 1916? Mick His family could have requested a CWGC headstone after the war (Well it was IWGC then) I have a number of men buried at home in 1916 with CWGC headstones. sm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 7 October , 2007 Share Posted 7 October , 2007 It looks like it would have been quite an expensive stone to have privately made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog Posted 8 October , 2007 Share Posted 8 October , 2007 Where abouts is this memorial situated and is there any other inscription on this stone memorialhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pegum Posted 9 October , 2007 Share Posted 9 October , 2007 His family could have requested a CWGC headstone after the war (Well it was IWGC then) I have a number of men buried at home in 1916 with CWGC headstones. sm On the other hand, quite a lot of those whose names appear on the C.W.G.C. website have non-standard headstones. I know - I have been trying to find all the C.W.G.C. graves in a cemetery in Dublin and a lot of them are family graves with the name added. As his name does not appear on the C.W.G.C. list, it suggests that Patrick McKeon did not die while in the Army. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isadore Posted 10 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 10 October , 2007 Thank you all for your useful comments. I am in work now but will post the full inscription this evening with full photo Isadore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isadore Posted 10 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 10 October , 2007 The full inscription is as follows: Sacred Heart of Jesus Have Mercy on the Souls of John McKeon Died 15 Dec 1909 Aged 66 Mrs Bridget McKeon Died 5 Nov 1911 Aged 67 Bridget Died 11 July 1907 Aged 22 Patrick Died Easter Week 1916 Aged 37 Rev John McKeon PP Died 5 Oct 1923 Aged 42 At Melbourne Australia In the 18th Year of his Ministry Maria McKeon Died 30 April 1947 Age 74 The order of the recording suggests that the headstone was erected later than when the Father John was buried I imagine it was Maria that had it erected I am trying to find any relatives but it looks like there are none left Isadore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salientguide Posted 11 October , 2007 Share Posted 11 October , 2007 Isadore interesting picture, thank you. It certainly appears that this is a private headstone and nothing to do with the IWGC or CWGC, Such memorials often relate to Army service of one of the family members mentioned there on but given their ages likely to have been well pre WW1 possibly even Boer War or regular army service in the early C20 .Unless someone died at home as a result of their war service when they could have opted for the IWGC taking over responsibility for the plot, providing they agreed to have a standard headstone, the IWGC would not be involved and the name would not appear in their records, SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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