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Is this the RAMC Crest?


isadore

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Do you think this s the crest of the Royal Army Medical Corps?

I saw it in a local graveyard

the line of the inscription reads

"....Patrick (McKeon) died Easter Week 1916 aged 37....

I cant find a record of him anywhere

Thanks

Isadore

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Thanks Phil. I thought it was but if he died in 1916 wouldnt he be on the CWGC Roll of Honour?

And if not would there be a reason he isn't?

Isadore

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QUOTE (Phil_B @ Oct 7 2007, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps something to do with the Easter Rising?

He is not in the list of casualties for the Easter Rising. No-one in the R.A.M.C. was killed in the rebellion but three were wounded: A.A. Devey, Sgt.H.C.Fewkes and Cpl.C.Mills

If he died of illness while at home on leave, or perhaps after being invalided out, would he have had a C.W.G.C. grave?

Michael

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Following invaliding out, if cause of death could be attributed to service he would definitely have been entitled to a CWGC stone

But it would have been the choice of his family to have a CWGC stone or a private family one.

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But did CWGC grave stones exist in 1916?

Mick

His family could have requested a CWGC headstone after the war (Well it was IWGC then)

I have a number of men buried at home in 1916 with CWGC headstones.

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Where abouts is this memorial situated and is there any other inscription on this stone

memorialhunter

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His family could have requested a CWGC headstone after the war (Well it was IWGC then)

I have a number of men buried at home in 1916 with CWGC headstones.

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On the other hand, quite a lot of those whose names appear on the C.W.G.C. website have non-standard headstones. I know - I have been trying to find all the C.W.G.C. graves in a cemetery in Dublin and a lot of them are family graves with the name added.

As his name does not appear on the C.W.G.C. list, it suggests that Patrick McKeon did not die while in the Army.

Michael

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Thank you all for your useful comments.

I am in work now but will post the full inscription this evening with full photo

Isadore

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The full inscription is as follows:

Sacred Heart of Jesus

Have Mercy on the Souls of

John McKeon

Died 15 Dec 1909 Aged 66

Mrs Bridget McKeon

Died 5 Nov 1911 Aged 67

Bridget

Died 11 July 1907 Aged 22

Patrick Died Easter Week

1916 Aged 37

Rev John McKeon PP

Died 5 Oct 1923 Aged 42

At Melbourne Australia

In the 18th Year of his Ministry

Maria McKeon

Died 30 April 1947 Age 74

The order of the recording suggests that the headstone was erected later than when the Father John was buried

I imagine it was Maria that had it erected

I am trying to find any relatives but it looks like there are none left

Isadore

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Isadore interesting picture, thank you.

It certainly appears that this is a private headstone and nothing to do with the IWGC or CWGC, Such memorials often relate to Army service of one of the family members mentioned there on but given their ages likely to have been well pre WW1 possibly even Boer War or regular army service in the early C20 .Unless someone died at home as a result of their war service when they could have opted for the IWGC taking over responsibility for the plot, providing they agreed to have a standard headstone, the IWGC would not be involved and the name would not appear in their records, SG

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