westkent78 Posted 3 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 3 October , 2007 Hi, I Have a thread below on cap badges in a picture. The man on the left is Robert Meirion Roberts, I have it that he served with the 23rd Londons in France Salonika and Pallestine. Maybe you could have a look at the picture and tell me if the cap badge fits. Thanks Dave Roberts Dave, Found the picture and it certainly looks like a 23rd London badge. Great photo. 5542/702318 Pte. Robert Meirion Roberts would have been in 2/23rd all his time overseas, although judging by the men with service numbers around his- and his place of origin- the likelihood is that he originally enlisted into the R.A.M.C. and was transferred to the 2/23rd prior to their going overseas. (The 60th Division received a considerable number of RAMC transferees to use as infantrymen). Could you please pm me his brothers' service details for my records and anything else you can share about Robert? Hope this helps, Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Beckett Posted 3 October , 2007 Share Posted 3 October , 2007 Hi Mathew, many thanks for your offer and look forward to seeing what you find Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 3 October , 2007 Share Posted 3 October , 2007 Matthew, I also have pictures of:- Private William Lelsie Gilbert (30/9/15) 2nd Lt. John Henry Sneyd Carew Hunt (16/9/16) Lieut. Keith Eric Wood (27/5/15) If you are interested. Seebold e-mailed to you. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westkent78 Posted 4 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 4 October , 2007 Peter, Mixed news I'm afraid. I think George Murkin was with 2/23rd London. He had originally been 4986 9th London and joined the 2/23rd with a batch of 20 other 9th Londons some time post 1917 (can't be more precise at this time.) Unfortunately I don't have the 2/23rd Diary at present but the battalion history indicates that on the 29th Sept the battalion moved into camp near Lindenhoek cross-roads. On the night of the 28th the Germans had retired from Messines Ridge and early on the 30th the 2/23rd moved over the Ridge in "vile" weather to the neighbourhood of Houthem where it spent the night in a vacated German camp. On the following day it took over the line opposite Comines. It was subjected to considerable shelling and on the night of 2nd Oct a 5.9" shell hit battalion HQ, causing several casualties. On the 5th they went into brigade reserve at Houthem. So either he was caught up in the shell that hit HQ or there was more shelling on the 3rd which he fell victim to. Hope this helps, Matthew Andy, I've emailed you. Thanks, Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Beckett Posted 4 October , 2007 Share Posted 4 October , 2007 Matthew, thats the best mixed news I have just read. Fantastic! I will now plot on the maps and hope that I can still get a copy of the Diaries. Thanks very much Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 4 October , 2007 Share Posted 4 October , 2007 Matthew, As per your request, I have gone through the Rifle Brigade Territorial rolls and there are a fair few 23rd London men. I will place them here for you as it will be easier to track:- STANNETT, Alfred 23rd Londons, 4515, Theatre 1a 27/1015 to 1/2/16 21st Rifle Brigade, 207202, 4b 12/1/17 to 18/9/18 India CRIBB, Herbert Arthur 23rd Londons, 4005, 1a 10/10/15 to 21/10/15 22nd Rifle Brigade, 207780, 2a 8/3/17 to 11/11/18 JOHNS, Arthur Ernest 23rd Londons, 4003, 1a 10/10/15 to 26/10/15 19th Rifle Brigade, 207794, 4b 7/1/17 to 11/11/18 CAMERON, Stephen Henry (Sgt) 23rd Londons, 2110, 1a 15/3/15 to 26/5/15 SUTTON, Thomas (Sgt) 2nd Leicesters, 6171, 1a 10/11/14 to 25/9/15 4th Northamptons 23201 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16 2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons , 705061, 2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211077, 2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18 OSBORNE, Frederick (Cpl) 4th Northamptons, 230 , 2b 15/8/15 to 9/1/16 4a 12/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16 2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons, 705063, 2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211079, 2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18 More to come Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 5 October , 2007 Share Posted 5 October , 2007 continuing SMITH, George Albert (Rfn) 4th Northamptons, 2535 2b 15/8/15 to 22/8/15 4a 22/8/15 to 21/10/15 2b 25/10/15 to 12/12/15 4a 18/12/15 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16 2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons, 705064 2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211080 2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18 SARGEANT, Leonard (Rfn) 4th Northamptons, 2856 2b 15/8/15 to 25/9/15 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16 2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons, 705065 2a 13/4/17 to 5/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211081 2a 6/6/17 to 11/11/18 ROCHESTER, William (Cpl) 4th Northamptons, 1971 2b 15/8/15 to 24/8/15 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16 2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons, 705067. 2a 13/4/17 to 5/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211083 2a 6/6/17 to 11/11/18 HALL, Ernest Harry (Cpl) 4th Northamptons, 1798 Malta 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 24/11/16 23rd Londons, 705068. 2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211084. 2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18. HIGHAM, Harry (A/Cpl) 4th Northamptons, 4017. 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/6/16 2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons, 705069. 2a 13/4/17 to 5/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211085. 2a 6/6/17 to 11/11/18. More to come. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 5 October , 2007 Share Posted 5 October , 2007 continuing BANCUTT, Lionel (L/Cpl) 4th Northamptons, 4006 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 13/3/16 to 16/7/16 2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons, 705070 2a 13/4/17 to 5/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211086 2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18 HOLLOWELL, Albert (Rfn) 4th Northamptons, 4380 4a 13/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16 2a 21/7/16 to 4/6/17 23rd Londons, 705071 2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211087 2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18 SARGEANT, Howard (Rfn) 4th Northamptons, 4039 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16 2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons, 705073 2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211089 2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18 CLARKE, Owen (Rfn) 4th Northamptons, 4014 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16 2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons, 705074 2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211090 2a 5/6/17 to 22/7/18 STEVENS, Tohn William (L/Cpl) 4th Northamptons, 4200 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16 2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons, 705075 2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211091 2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18 More to come Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 5 October , 2007 Share Posted 5 October , 2007 continuing JACKSON, William Thomas 4th Northamptons, 4285 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16 2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons, 705076 2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211092 2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18 HOLMES, Christopher (Rfn) 4th Northamptons, 4381 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16 2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons, 705077 2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211093 2a 5/6/17 to 26/10/18 FISHER, Alfred (Rfn) 4th Northamptons, 1911 2b 15/8/15 to 24/8/15 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16 4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16 Malta 9/10/16 to 18/12/16 2a 21/12/16 to 12/4/17 23rd Londons, 705078 2a 13/4/17 to 5/6/17 22nd Rifle Brigade, 211094 2a 6/6/17 to 11/11/18 TILLERAY, George Alexander (Rfn) 23rd Londons, 5675 1a 16/6/16 to 18/9/16 25th Rifle Brigade, 211479 1a 14/5/18 to 11/11/18 attd Base Depot SELBY, Joseph 23rd Londons, 3475 1a 18/8/15 to 25/9/15 became Rifle Brigade, 211514 More to come Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 5 October , 2007 Share Posted 5 October , 2007 continuing MURPHY, Francis James 23rd Londons, 2291 (A/L-Cpl) 1a 15/3/15 to 26/6/15 became Rifle Brigade 211522 STENNING, Thomas Benjamin 23rd Londons, 1587 1a 15/3/15 to 24/1/17 became Rifle Brigade 211620 GOBMAN, Richard (Rfn) 23rd Londons, 3865 & 701214 1a 23/3/16 to 24/9/16 1a 13/12/16 to 7/4/17 4b 29/7/17 to 21/10/16 21st Rifle Brigade, 212149 4b 22/10/17 to 18/9/18 India 1/10/18 to 7/11/19 BOWMAN, Richard 23rd Londons, 4423 1A 26/6/16 to 3/12/16 2a 14/12/16 to 15/6/17 4b 18/6/17 to 21/10/17 21st Rifle Brigade, 212150 4b 22/10/17 to 25/4/18 McDOWALL, Joseph William 23rd Londons, 3979 1a 5/7/16 to 20/9/16 21st Londons, 701269 2a 30/3/17 to 17/6/17 4b 19/6/17 to 21/1/18 21st Rifle Brigade, 212175 4b 22/1/18 to 1/1/19 India 13/1/19 to 7/11/19 More to come Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 5 October , 2007 Share Posted 5 October , 2007 continuing POULTER, Alfred 23rd Londons, 3153 1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16 2a 14/12/16 to 14/6/17 4b 18/6/17 to 21/1/18 21st Rifle Brigade, 212201 4b 22/1/18 to 18/9/18 India 1/10/18 to 13/3/19 SMITH, Henry 23rd Londons, 3646 1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16 2a 14/12/16 to 14/6/17 4b 18/6/17 to 6/2/18 19th Rifle Brigade, 212205 4b 7/2/18 to 11/11/18 WILDE, Charles Frederick 23rd Londons, 4696 1a 26/6/16 to 22/11/16 2a 30/11/16 to 17/8/17 4b 19/6/17 to 5/3/18 20th Rifle Brigade 4b 5/3/18 to 11/11/18 ROGERS, William John 23rd Londons, 1903 1a 26/6/16 to 2/12/16 2a 8/12/16 to 18/6/17 4b 20/6/17 to 13/3/18 20th Rifle Brigade, 212224 4b 14/3/18 to 11/11/18 HERMANS, Gerald 23rd Londons, 5588 1a 26/6/16 to 1/12/16 2a 7/12/16 to 15/6/17 4b 20/6/17 to 20/1/18 21st Rifle Brigade, 212575 4b 21/1/18 to 22/9/18 India 7/10/18 to 12/5/19 More to come Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 5 October , 2007 Share Posted 5 October , 2007 continuing WOODSTOCK, William Charles 23rd Londons, 6034 1a 6/11/15 to 3/12/15 2a 14/12/16 to 20/2/18 4b 26/2/18 to 22/8/18 21st Rifle Brigade, 212618 4b 23/3/18 to 18/9/18 India 1/10/18 to 5/12/19 BLENKINS, Henry John 23rd Londons, 3365 1a 26/6/16 to 11/12/16 2a 17/12/16 to 21/6/17 4b 25/6/17 to 6/8/18 20th Rifle Brigade, 212857 4b 7/8/18 to 11/11/18 SALTER, John Stanley Maurice 23rd Londons, 5882 1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16 2a 14/12/16 to 20/2/18 4b 26/2/18 to 7/8/18 20th Rifle Brigade, 212877 4b 8/8/18 to 31/10/18 PELHAM, Frederick Charles 23rd Londons, 3104 1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16 2a 14/12/16 to 7/3/17 18th Londons, 594635 2a 8/3/17 to 10/6/17 4b 12/6/17 to 15/8/18 19th Rifle Brigade, 212883 4b 16/8/18 to 31/10/18 McAULIFFE, Patrick Thomas 23rd Londoms, 1937 1a 15/3/15 to 28/5/15 21st Londons, 700279 2a 30/3/17 to 18/6/17 4b 22/6/17 to 3/6/18 13th Londons, 493569 4b 4/6/18 to 18/8/18 21st Rifle Brigade, 212896 4b 22/8/28 to 18/9/18 More to come Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 5 October , 2007 Share Posted 5 October , 2007 Matthew, More of these to come, also an officer that was att'd to the 8th Rifle Brigade from the 23rd Londons but was injured in November 1917 has come up. A Captain William Arthur Solven, also spent some time in the labour corps and commanded the 181 Chinese Labour Corps. Let me know if you would like a copy of his record. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 5 October , 2007 Share Posted 5 October , 2007 Matthew, A few more for you: RODWELL, Arthur Leslie. 23rd Londons, 5891. 1a 26/6/16 to 3/2/16 2a 14/12/16 to 15/6/17 4b 18/6/17 to 30/8/18 19th Rifle Brigade, 212907 4b 31/8/18 to 11/11/18 ENTWISTLE, John 23rd Londons, 5531 1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16 2a 14/12/16 to 17/6/17 4b 19/6/17 to 20/2/18 20th Rifle Brigade, 213039 4b 21/2/18 to 11/11/18 KELF, George 23rd Londons, 703031 2a 1/2/17 to 16/6/17 4b 19/6/17 to 5/3/18 20th Rifle Brigade, 213056 4b 6/3/18 to 11/11/18 PUTLAND, Henry 23rd Londons, 4995 1a 15/7/16 to 30 8 16 att'd 21st Londons, 701884 2a 30/3/17 to 18/6/17 4b 22/6/17 to 23/7/18 19th Rifle Brigade, 213267 4b 24/7/18 to 11/11/18 More to come Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 5 October , 2007 Share Posted 5 October , 2007 continuing, BRADLEY, Walter 23rd Londons, 5525. 1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16 2a 14/12/16 to 17/6/17 4b 19/6/17 to 31/7/18 19th Rifle Brigade, 213298 4b 1/8/18 to 11/11/18 ELGOOD, William 23rd Londons, 3629 & 701089 1a 26/6/16 to 19/10/16 1a 20/5/17 to 7/4/18 became Rifle Brigade, 213114 NEWTON, Robert James 23rd Londons, 1547 1a 15/3/15 to 29/9/15 1a 3/2/16 to 25/5/16 became Rifle Brigade 213600 PENFOLD, Reuben 23rd Londons, 3639 & 701095 1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16 2a 14/12/16 to 16/6/17 4b 19/6/17 to 2/2/18 20th Rifle Brigade, 203168. 4b 3/2/18 to 20/6/19 Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 5 October , 2007 Share Posted 5 October , 2007 Matthew, The last one from The Rifle Brigade Territorial BWM/VM Rolls STEVENS, Joseph John 10th Londons 3154, attd 23rd Londons 7602 & 703644 1A 13/7/16 TO 8/9/16 23rd Londons 1a 9/9/16 to 3/12/16 2a 14/12/16 to 15/6/17 4b 18/6/17 to 20/2/18 20th Rifle Brigade, 203177 4b 21/2/18 to 31/8/18 Will have a check through the territorial 1914-15 Star Rolls for you this weekend. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westkent78 Posted 6 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 6 October , 2007 Andy, What can I say. Thank you very much for copying these out. It's greatly appreciated. Those will keep me busy this weekend. Best regards, Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 6 October , 2007 Share Posted 6 October , 2007 Matthew, Glad that they are of use. Will keep my eyes out in the other rolls for you but remembered there were a fair few of them in the Territorial Rolls. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 6 October , 2007 Share Posted 6 October , 2007 Matthew, Here are the entries in the Rifle Brigade Territorial 1914-15 Star Rolls (WO329/2824) JOHNS, A.E. 23rd Londons, 4003 (1) 10/10/15 became 207794, Rifle Brigade McAULIFFE, P.P. 23rd Londons, 1937 (1) 15/3/15 21st Rifle Brigade, 212896 STANNETT, A. 23rd Londons, 4515 (1) 28/10/15 21st Rifle Brigade, 207202 CAMERON, S.H. 23rd Londons, 2110 (1) 15/3/15 25th Rifle Brigade, 208168. More to come Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 6 October , 2007 Share Posted 6 October , 2007 Listed is the man you were interested in, Sergeant Cameron who went into the 25th Rifle Brigade. This was a reserve garrison battalion and was based in Falmouth, U.K. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 6 October , 2007 Share Posted 6 October , 2007 continuing:- CRIBBS, H.A. 23rd Londons, 4005 (1) 10/10/15 25th Rifle Brigade, 207780 CRUCIFIX, R. 23rd Londons, 2277 (1) 15/3/15 25th Rifle Brigade, 207068 Discharged P.392 (xvi) K.R., 7/3/17 ELGOOD, W. 23rd Londons, 3629 (1) 26/5/15 25th Rifle Brigade, 213414 HOPKINS, W.D. 23rd Londons, 2445 (1) 15/3/15 25th Rifle Brigade, 212675 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 6 October , 2007 Share Posted 6 October , 2007 last lot from the 14-15 star roll Matt MURPHY, P.J. 23rd Londons, 2291 (1) 15/3/15 25th Rifle Brigade, 211522 Discharged P.392 (xvi) K.R. 18/10/18 NEWTON, R.J. 23rd Londons, 1547 (1) 15/3/15 25th Rifle Brigade, 213600 SELBY, J. 23rd Londons, 804111 (1) 18/8/15 25th Rifle Brigade, 211514 Discharged P.392 (xvi) K.R. 13/6/18 STENNING, T.B. 23rd Londons, 700131 (1) 18/3/15 25th Rifle Brigade, 211620 Discharged P.392 (xvi) K.R. 19/12/17 Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 6 October , 2007 Share Posted 6 October , 2007 Cameron BWM/VM Roll for you Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westkent78 Posted 6 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 6 October , 2007 Thanks very much Andy. It's greatly appreciated. Best regards, Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 6 October , 2007 Share Posted 6 October , 2007 Matt, Captain Solven's record all sent, have fun with it. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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