calvin Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 hello all, this ship was a german gun-runner in ww1 and was operating off the coast of ireland, auxillary patrol ships were sent out in search of her, does anyone know how i could find more about this ship, the "AUD", REGARDS, JOHN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 I think this ties in with the story of Sir Roger Casement. A German transport ship, the Libau was disguised as a Norwegian freighter Aud Norge and despatched to Ireland with a cargo of arms. She was intercepted and was being escorted into Queenstown when her captain scuttled her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted 10 September , 2007 Author Share Posted 10 September , 2007 hello, i found the mention of her in the auxillary trawler "bradfords" log, dated 20th march 1915 " bradford" 829 and ina williams 2658 of berehaven command patrolled from crow head to mizen in search for german gun-runner AUD under command of castletownbere (coates)-- directed to bring any vessel with arms into lawrence cove" who was sir roger casement, thanks for your help, regards, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 To get you going: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Casement , and googling 'Roger Casement' will find you lots more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmad Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 Hi john, don't know a lot but if you contact this company http://www.iol.ie/aquaventures/enindex.htm I have dived with them a few times and the skipper/owner has dived on the AUD a few times. when i was last down with them he had a load of very corroded clips of rusian cartridges siting on a 45 gallon barrel in his dive office. he told me they were off the AUD and showed me a few photos of the wreck, he also made a documentary a few years ago on diving on the wreck for irish tv I saw the film but don't have any real memories of the story, just a gun runner scuttled off the irish cork coast Might send you on a bit of the wreck or one of the heads if you ask him ?? hope this is of some help ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted 10 September , 2007 Author Share Posted 10 September , 2007 thanks guys, i appriciate the help, i will speak to your contact, have you dived near the lusitania wreck, my great uncle,s ship the bradford is in the same area, regards, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmad Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 Hi John, No too deep for me to dive on the Lusitania . My grandfather however was in the RIC and was involved in the retrival of some of the bodies off the beaches. This area of cork where the Aud is sunk is full of ship wrecks, when i was down there we dived on a very intact WWII u boat and a few other steamers. a nice part of the world as a tourist destination. If you don't mind me asking whats the interest in the Aud? ignore if i am being nosey ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 hello all, this ship was a german gun-runner in ww1 and was operating off the coast of ireland, auxillary patrol ships were sent out in search of her, does anyone know how i could find more about this ship, the "AUD", REGARDS, JOHN Hi John, I think you are speaking about the Aud Norge (SMS Libau). There are a book about this ship. The author is Xander Clayton. You can buy it via Internet. It's a big book, with more than 350 pages. Amazon is a good choice. Hope this help you. Jose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARABIS Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 Hello John, I have uploaded a newspaper cutting about Karl Spindler & the Aud. Regards, ARABIS. Hello John, I have uploaded a newspaper cutting about Karl Spindler & the Aud. Regards, ARABIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARABIS Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 Oops, sorry John it didn`t work, I think it is too big to upload. ARABIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted 10 September , 2007 Author Share Posted 10 September , 2007 thanks guys for all the info. this certainly helps, any further help would be appriciated, cheers again, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Murphy Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 Hi John, I think you are speaking about the Aud Norge (SMS Libau). There are a book about this ship. The author is Xander Clayton. You can buy it via Internet. It's a big book, with more than 350 pages. Amazon is a good choice. Hope this help you. Jose There is also THE MYSTERY OF THE CASEMENT SHIP, by Karl Spindler, Anvil, 1965 Spindler gives a good account of his voyage to Ireland and his subsequent scuttling of the Aud and also on his captivity in England afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted 10 September , 2007 Author Share Posted 10 September , 2007 thanks karl for that additional information, regards, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue S Posted 4 December , 2007 Share Posted 4 December , 2007 Hello John, I am reading Admiral Sir Lewis Bayly's book 'Pull Together' in which he describes how the Admiralty in Queenstown became suspicious of the Aud and how he stood on the verandah of Admiralty House watching her being escorted into port : and then the German Ensign going up, men in uniform leaving the ship and finally blowing her up in an attempt to block the channel. That is just a brief summary of several pages in the book. Best wishes Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted 4 December , 2007 Author Share Posted 4 December , 2007 hello sue, thankyou for that, it makes interesting reading, is there any mention of a auxillary patrol trawler called the "bradford" in his book, she was lost in 1916 while under his command, well thanks again sue, kind regards, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadsac Posted 4 December , 2007 Share Posted 4 December , 2007 John, could this be your AUD ship ; BEE William H.A N/E Lt. RNR 84S037 H.M.T. Lord Heneage Vice Admiral Queenstown 27.06.17 Gazetted Auxiliary Patrols to 31.12.16 DSC Assisted in the capture of the S.S. "Aud", on the 21-22nd April, 1916. Regards Sadsac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadsac Posted 4 December , 2007 Share Posted 4 December , 2007 John, here's info on INA WILLIAMS - different date to posting - but info ?? ; NETTLEINGHAM Charles T N/E S/Lt. RNVR 83P005a H.M.T. Ina Williams N/E 07.08.15 Gazetted In Action with Enemy Submarines 05.06.15 DSC For meritorious service in command of a Trawler "Ina Williams" on the 5th June, 1915, when he attacked a German submarine and after firing six shots is supposed to have sunk her. KOKO Sadsac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted 4 December , 2007 Author Share Posted 4 December , 2007 hello sadsac, thankyou for the info. the ina williams and the bradford (which is the boat i am mostly interested in was paired up in 1916 to look for the AUD, it was on thier ships logs for 1916 which i have, through all the peoples help on here i am piecing the story together, what i would really like is a photo of the bradford. any further help would be very helpful and thankyou once again for your help, regards, john p.s. i believe a relative of mine was on the lord heneage, it would be good to get a ships crew list at the time she was involved with the AUD. a further relative was on the bradford as well, thanks again, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbluesboy Posted 4 December , 2007 Share Posted 4 December , 2007 Hi John.The Aud was a German ship running guns,ammunition and supplies destined for the IRA.She was challenged in Irish coastal waters by HMS Bluebell an Azallia Class "Sloop" based at Queenstown who became suspicious.When she refused to stop a shot was put across her bows,the crew aboard started to scuttle the ship and she went down.The weapons she was delivering were captured Russian stuff from the Eastern Front.The Royal Navy dragged the wreck shortly afterwards to stop subs using it to hide,it was also dragged in WW2 for the same reason.The reason I know all this is that I have a RN LSGC medal to John Burr Stoker,Petty Office RN named to HMS Bluebell who was on the vessel during this action.The local museum in Ireland has artifacts from the wreck on display.Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted 5 December , 2007 Author Share Posted 5 December , 2007 hello bob, thankyou fore that info, it,s appriciated. on the bradfords records it said her and the ina williams were paired and sent to look for the german gun runner AUD. they must have known for some time she was on her way because they were on patrol looking for her sometime before she arrived, the intell. must have been pretty good. what do you think, regards, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue S Posted 5 December , 2007 Share Posted 5 December , 2007 Hi John, The information in Admiral Bayly's book is that in April 1916 a warning was received that an Irish Rebellion was likely to take place at easter and that a disguised German ship was believed to be on the way to Ireland. Bayly writes, "owing to the wonderful correctness of Admiralty intelligence a good look-out was kept for her, though no one knew where she would be met." He goes on to say that the signal station at Loop Head reported that they had seen the 'Aud' and it was operating in a suspicious manner. He said that two trawlers followed her and that he sent 'HMS 'Zinnia' and HMS 'Bluebell'. She was boarded but nothing untoward was seen but Bayly sent a wire which told them to escort her to Queenstown and that if she protested to sink her! A shot was fired across her bows and she agreed to be escorted in. He describes the next morning standing on the verandah and watching the Aud being escorted when suddenly she hoisted two German ensigns, about 30 men in uniform got into the lifeboats and there was an explosion onboard and the Aud sank. Rifles, machine guns, bombs etc were discovered from the sea bed and he goes on to explain involvement of Sir Roger Casement in the foiled plot. Hope this is of interest. Sue Hi John, The information in Admiral Bayly's book is that in April 1916 a warning was received that an Irish Rebellion was likely to take place at easter and that a disguised German ship was believed to be on the way to Ireland. Bayly writes, "owing to the wonderful correctness of Admiralty intelligence a good look-out was kept for her, though no one knew where she would be met." He goes on to say that the signal station at Loop Head reported that they had seen the 'Aud' and it was operating in a suspicious manner. He said that two trawlers followed her and that he sent 'HMS 'Zinnia' and HMS 'Bluebell'. She was boarded but nothing untoward was seen but Bayly sent a wire which told them to escort her to Queenstown and that if she protested to sink her! A shot was fired across her bows and she agreed to be escorted in. He describes the next morning standing on the verandah and watching the Aud being escorted when suddenly she hoisted two German ensigns, about 30 men in uniform got into the lifeboats and there was an explosion onboard and the Aud sank. Rifles, machine guns, bombs etc were discovered from the sea bed and he goes on to explain involvement of Sir Roger Casement in the foiled plot. Hope this is of interest. Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue S Posted 5 December , 2007 Share Posted 5 December , 2007 Ther is no mention of the Bradford in the index of Admiral Bayly's book. Sorry. Sue S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted 5 December , 2007 Author Share Posted 5 December , 2007 hello sue, thankyou, i found it very interesting, i wonder if the two trawlers following her were the bradford and ina williams, it was the 20th of march when they were sent out to look for her from crow head to mizen, they could have been part of a series of trawler pairs sent out to track her, do you know the exact date she scuttled, thanks again for the info. sue. kind regards, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue S Posted 5 December , 2007 Share Posted 5 December , 2007 Admiral Bayly's book does'nt give a date or name the trawlers. There is an article entitled The Easter Uprising Dublin 1916 on Firstworldwar.com which seems to suggest that it was on Good Friday April 21st. Best wishes Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted 6 December , 2007 Author Share Posted 6 December , 2007 hello sue , thanks for your reply, kind regards, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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