RAMC Database

[BJanman]

Barbara:

Great work with the Website. Below is another fellow for your records--cropped from a group photo of officers of the

4th KOSB, September 1914.

Chris

Chris

Thank you so much for this, especially the picture. I have added the info to my database and stored the photo with the others you have kindly provided, so that I can add them when the new database is up and running.

Barbara

[BJanman]

Barbara,

Are you only including those who died in the war, or all who served in the RAMC?

Do you want some names and info of men from overseas, Fiji & NZ, who served in the RAMC?

Christine

Hello Christine

I am hoping to add all who served in the RAMC but am trying to concentrate on those who survived.

The reason for this is because the AMS Museum receives a lot of letters from people asking where their relatives served. Most of the official records state RAMC as the Corps rather than the Unit within the RAMC so it is difficult to help them, especially as they were serving with all the Divisions, in CCSs and Hospitals at home and abroad etc. Some of the letters are from people asking about their father, I would love to know about my grandfather's service but would hate not know about my father's service, so really want to help them. Most of those who died are documented on the CWGC website and Chris Harley is doing a great job with the Medical National Project but gathering all the information into one area helps with the overall picture.

I would welcome any information you have about the men from overseas, thank you for your offer to help.

Barbara

[Desdichado]

You might want to go to the Wellcome Institute in London. Their archives contain many first hand accounts of the war written by RAMC personnel.

[BJanman]

Hi. Yes I do have information from the Wellcome Institute but thanks for the tip.

Barbara

[Allie]

Hi Bjay,

Well done on the website! It looks very impressive.

I have another name for you.

My details are sketchy but going on family recollections I think I have the right medal card for my G Grandfather.

He is Edward Richards, known as Ned. Born c 1875 in Ruabon, Wrexham.

I'm told he joined the Ramc and served in Palestine. He transferred to 1914-1918 Somme and drove the Ambulances.

From this I think this is his details from his medal card

Edward Richards, Ramc, Pte, 55095

WO/372/16

Allie

[BJanman]

Hi Allie

Thank you for the information.

Did you download the MIC? If you did, was there a date of entry into the theatre of war? It may be possible to identify the Unit he served with if he arrived in Palestine at the same time the Unit did.

Barbara

[Allie]

Hi Barbara,

I have downloaded the card, along with a few others as I was not sure which was my Edward Richards. This I think is his.

Theatre of war first served in (3) Egypt

Date of entry therein 27/7/1915

Allie

[BJanman]

Allie

I put the date 27th July 1915 into my Unit database and the only ones to come up were the 18th Divisional Field Ambulances which arrived in France on the day. It is possible that 55095 Pte Edward Richards arrived in Egypt on that day to join a medical unit already serving out there.

Have you tried to find out if there are any Absent Voters Lists for the Wrexam area? If your G Grandfather stayed in that area then his details may be on one. Also, as your G Grandfather drove ambulances, have you considered that he may have enlisted into the Army Service Corps attached to the RAMC, just a thought.

I haven't transferred all those with the surname Richards over to my database yet but I'll have a go at the weekend and see if I have an Edward Richards serving with a Unit in the Egypt/Palestine area.

Barbara

[Allie]

Thanks for the tips and for all your input Barbara.

It is really appreciated.

I'm going to see if one of my contacts who researches family history in the area G Grandfather lived can help with the absent voters list.

As far as I know he stayed close to the Wrexham area and returned to his job as a miner.

I'll let you know if I find anything on those absent voters list

Thanks

Allie

[Desdichado]

Have you got anything on the Surgeon-General of the Army, Sir Arthur Sloggett? I wouldn't mind getting hold of a biography if someone has written one.

[BJanman]

Hi Allie

Just incase you are still following this thread, I am about half way through adding the surname Richard, a fairly common name it seems. I've been quite busy and am away now for a few days but will continue when I get back.

Barbara

Have you got anything on the Surgeon-General of the Army, Sir Arthur Sloggett? I wouldn't mind getting hold of a biography if someone has written one.

Yes I have some information on Sir Arthur Sloggett, will post what I have next week for you

Barbara

[Verrinder Ian]

Hello Barbara,

Do you have anything on the following man?

100629 Pte. W. Young, D.C.M.

He won his D.C.M on 23rd November 1917. His citation says that he was an R.A.M.C man attached to No.4 Company, B Battalion, Tank Corps, as a medical orderly. His citation states that he went forward in front of the infantry into Fontaine and attended the wounded of the Tank Corps. This is particularly remarkable because the infantry never reached the village and many of the tank crew never returned. He must have been a very brave and dedicated man.

The citation leads one to believe that he survived the action and I certainly hope so. I was particularly intrigued to see that this thread says that the Welcome Institute hold some first hand accounts written by R.A.M.C men. Is there an easy way to check whether a particular man left anything, as any account W. Young left would be very intersting to read?

My interest in this action stems from the fact that my Great Uncle was one of the tank drivers in Fontaine that day. Furthermore, he was one of only three tanks present from No. 4 Company, so probably would have known Young. Luckily my Great Uncle survived.

Regards,

Ian.

[Desdichado]

I don't suppose you've got anything about Captain John Berry Haycraft, RAMC do you? His father was the man who discovered anti-clotting drugs.

Thanks - Des

[Guest mruk]

Denny, Geoffrey Arnold Pte. No. 26 [RAMC] 7th [1st West Riding] Casualty Clearing Station. Died: 22-12-1914 [Dysentry]. Age: 26. Born: Headingley-Yorks. Enlisted: Leeds. Cemetery-Memorial: Merville Communal Cemetery. I. LL. 2.

Regards,

Dave

[Guest mruk]

[source: The Leodiensian. Vol. XXXIV. No. 3. June, 1915. pp. 50-51]

[Guest mruk]

Roll of Honour. The University of Leeds

[Chris Noble]

Good stuff Dave.

Does anybody have any info on this chap?

Private Willie Coles 33213.

34th Field Ambulance, R.A.M.C.

K.I.A., 8th October, 1917.

Kindest regards,

Chris.

[kpm]

Hi Barbara,

Do you have any information about Lt. A.S. ROBINSON, R.A.M.C.

He is believed to have served with the French Red Cross.

His MIC states that the date of entry to first theatre was 3.7.15 and then Mediterranean Hospital Ship 2.9.15??

Educated at Cambridge University receiving BA. 1892.

My interest lies in the fact that Dr Alfred Skirrow ROBINSON was in the Zetland Club, Redcar, Teesside, on the 21 October 1941 when the club received a direct hit by a high explosive bomb resulting in the death of 15 people, including Dr ROBINSON.

Regards,

Ian.

[BJanman]

Dave

Thank you for posting the photograph and information about Pte G A Denny. Would love to use it on my database (which I've been informed is almost ready ). Would you mind confirming where the picture comes from or can I source it to you?

Sorry for the delay in responding, have been to Ypres and returned to quite a few queries.

Barbara

[BJanman]

Have you got anything on the Surgeon-General of the Army, Sir Arthur Sloggett?

As promised

Sir Arthur Thomas Sloggett

24th Nov 1857 - Born at Stoke Damarell, Devon

F.Z.S. Fellow, Kings College.

5th February 1881 - Surgeon afterwards Surgeon Captain

5th February 1893 – Promoted to Surgeon Major

1896 – Served - Dongola

18th November 1896 – Promoted to Surgeon Lt. Col. (Special promotion for service with Dongola Expeditionary Force) and RAMC Lt. Col

1896 - Osmanieh (4th Class)

1897-1898 – Served - Nile (dangerously wounded at Battle of Khartum)

16th October 1898 - Granted higher rate of pay as Lt. Col. in recognition of his service, Battle of Khartum

1898 - Knight of Grace of the Order of St. John of Jerusalem

1899-1902 – Served - South Africa

1899 - Medjidieh (3 Class)

28th February 1900 – 23rd August 1902. - Local rank of Col, while in charge of Imperial Yeomanry Hospital and Principal Medical Officer of a General Hospital and Commandant Deelfontein District, and Deputy Administrator for Cape Colony in South Africa

1901 - C.M.G.

9th Sep 1903 – Promoted Colonel

24th July 1908 – 30th December 1911 - Principal Medical Officer, 6th Div India

13th May 1908 – Promoted Surgeon-General

1910 - C.B. (mil.)

31st December 1911 – 21st March 1914 - Principal Medical Officer, H.Q. India; Director of Medical Services, H.Q. India and D.M.S. in India

1911 – Honorary Surgeon to the King

1st June 1914 - Surgeon General, ranking as Lt. General/D.G.

Oct 1914 – Went to France as D.G.M.S. of the Expeditionary Force and Chief Commissioner of the British Red Cross Society and St. John Ambulance Association.

1915 - K.C.B.

1915 - Grand Officer of Legion of Honour (2 Class)

1916 - Commander of the Order of Leopold (1 Class)

1917 - C.M.G. and K.C.V.O.

Barbara

P.S. Will look to see if I have any info on the other men and come back later

[BJanman]

Hello Barbara,

Do you have anything on the following man?

100629 Pte. W. Young, D.C.M.

Ian.

Hello Ian

I do have Pte Young on my database because I've added all the men listed in R W Walker's Recipients of the D.C.M. but I cannot find any further information on him than you have already have. He is not in the RAMC Roll of Honour or the index I have on RAMC Graves for the Great War so I presume it is safe to say he survived.

Barbara

[BJanman]

I don't suppose you've got anything about Captain John Berry Haycraft, RAMC do you? His father was the man who discovered anti-clotting drugs.

Thanks - Des

Hi Des

I've found the information below, I hope it helps.

Barbara

John Berry HAYCRAFT

M.B., Ch.B. Ed 1909 (Ed., London Hospital, Kings College London, Cardiff)

F.R.C.S. England 1921

Res. Pathologist, Res. Medical Officer and Honorary Surgeon – General Hospital Birmingham

Assistant Medical Officer – Shoreditch Infirmary.

Clinical Assistant – King Edward VII Hospital, Cardiff

Hon. Surgeon - Prince of Wales Hospital, Cardiff

Hon. Surgeon - Glan Ely Hospital

Hon. Assistant Surgeon - Cardiff Royal Infirmary

Consultant Surgeon - Merthyr General Hospital, Royal Hamadryad Seaman’s Hospital -Cardiff, Cottage Hospital & Co Infirmary - Bridgend, Ministry of Pensions Hospital - Chepstow, Miners Hospital - Caerphilly

Surgeon Specialist serving with No 1 Casualty Clearing Station

Commissioned T/Captain in the RAMC on 10th August 1915

Promoted to A/Major on 4th January 1918

Awarded Military Cross – LG 3rd June 1918

Practices:

21 The Parade, Cardiff

31 Cathedral Road, Cardiff

Author of

Treatment of Acute Emphysematous Gangrene – Lancet 1915

Shell Wound of Left Shoulder – Extraction of Time Fuse from Neck – Ib

Treatment of Gunshot Wounds with Soap & Primary Suture – British Medical Journal 1918

Shell Wounds of Chest – Thotacotomy – Suture of Pericard Ib 1920

Rep. on Excision & Primary Suture of Wounds – G.H.Q. Armies in France – 1918

Unusual Wounds of Abdomen – British Journal Surg. 1920

[BJanman]

Good stuff Dave.

Does anybody have any info on this chap?

Private Willie Coles 33213.

34th Field Ambulance, R.A.M.C.

K.I.A., 8th October, 1917.

Kindest regards,

Chris.

The only information I can find on Pte Willie Coles is from Soldiers Died, and that is that he was born in Foxdyke, Lancs and enlisted in York.

Barbara

[BJanman]

Hi Barbara,

Do you have any information about Lt. A.S. ROBINSON, R.A.M.C.

Ian.

The only information that I can trace so far on Lt. A S Robinson is below. I have not been able to place him with a Hospital Ship as yet.

Barbara

Alfred Skirrow ROBINSON

B.A. Cambridge University (Nat Sc. Trip) - 1892

Licentiate Society of Apoth. London - 1894 (Univ. Camb & Yorks College, Leeds)

M.A., M.B., B.Ch – 1896

Medical Officer – Redcar Infant Welfare Centre & Kirkleatham Hall Auxiliary Military Hospital.

Commandant & Medical Officer 5th Yorks V.A.D

Med. Ref. Life Association, Scotland

Member of the British Medical Association

Assistant Surgeon – Urgency Cases Hospital, for France

Hon. Surgeon & Anaesthetist – General Infirmary, Leeds

Surgeon B.I.S.N, Co

Commissioned T/Lt in the RAMC on 2nd August 1915

[kpm]

Hi Barbara,

Thank you for the information about Lt A.S. ROBINSON.

Ian.