krathome Posted 20 June , 2007 Share Posted 20 June , 2007 My Grandfather Charles Brummitt, who was a Hull fisherman, served in the RNR in WW1. I have his service record from Yeovil (RG 1171) as follows:- Victory II 04.05.1915 Attentive III 06.06.1915 Vivid 23.07.1915 Dreel Castle 01.10.1915 Invalided from RN Hospital Plymouth 05.01.1916 Emperor 05.06.1918 This all started because he died in 1939 when my Mother was 2 and she has never seen a photograph of him. Whilst I've given up hope on that, I would like any information/photographs of the above establishments/ships. I had never even heard of the Q ships before trying to find out more information about him. I am aware that most of the above are shore based training bases or establishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 20 June , 2007 Share Posted 20 June , 2007 Hi, Welcome to the forum. Yes they are shore bases and depot ships, is there any names in parenthesis after the ships you have named? Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krathome Posted 20 June , 2007 Author Share Posted 20 June , 2007 Hi, Welcome to the forum. Yes they are shore bases and depot ships, is there any names in parenthesis after the ships you have named? Regards Charles No there isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historydavid Posted 20 June , 2007 Share Posted 20 June , 2007 Hello krathome, welcome aboard. The Dreel Castle was a hired trawler, Admiralty No 2251, built 1908, 97 tons, armed with 1 6 pounder AA gun from 1/15 to 1919. Its name was changed in 2/18 to Mara Smith. Best wishes David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 21 June , 2007 Share Posted 21 June , 2007 The Dreel Castle was the Auxiliary Patrol Depot ship at Falmouth, usually men where drafted to a ship but as the ship wasn't big enough to manage its own administration the ships had a 'depot' ship to carry out the administration functions. The actual ship was involved in one or two small incidents, recovering survivors outside Falmouth Harbour, but wasn't a Q Ship. Could you scan and post his record the pals may be able to get more information from it, Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 21 June , 2007 Share Posted 21 June , 2007 I was also wondering about the reference to Q-ships, as the list of shore bases and depot ships doesn't immediately suggest a link with them. Falmouth sounds promising, though. Does Krathome have other information that indicates a link with Q-ships? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 21 June , 2007 Share Posted 21 June , 2007 here is a link to the Dreel castle http://www.historyshelf.org/secf/danger/05.php and to a list of some of the Q ships http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyBritishQships.htm I also cant see any link with mr Brummett and Q ships . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spithead Posted 21 June , 2007 Share Posted 21 June , 2007 Hello Krathome EMPEROR 181 tons, built 1903, requisitioned 1918-19 as M/S, Admiralty No. 552. Port Reg. H741 Regards John http://www.float-trawlers.lancashire.gov.u...amp;t=4&x=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krathome Posted 21 June , 2007 Author Share Posted 21 June , 2007 I was also wondering about the reference to Q-ships, as the list of shore bases and depot ships doesn't immediately suggest a link with them. Falmouth sounds promising, though. Does Krathome have other information that indicates a link with Q-ships? Mick A professional researcher said the Dreel Castle was the flagship of the Falmouth Q ships and I think I have misunderstood and thought some of the other were too. The Dreel Castle was the Auxiliary Patrol Depot ship at Falmouth, usually men where drafted to a ship but as the ship wasn't big enough to manage its own administration the ships had a 'depot' ship to carry out the administration functions. The actual ship was involved in one or two small incidents, recovering survivors outside Falmouth Harbour, but wasn't a Q Ship. Could you scan and post his record the pals may be able to get more information from it, Regards Charles Unfortunatley they were too big, I'll try to get a URL link set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historydavid Posted 21 June , 2007 Share Posted 21 June , 2007 krathome, my apologies. I stated in my post No 4 that the Dreel Castle was a trawler, when I should have typed DRIFTER. The rest of the info. I gave was correct. Best wishes David ps. I have never seen any mention of the Dreel Castle being used as a Q ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 22 June , 2007 Share Posted 22 June , 2007 Falmouth undoubtedly had Q-ship connections, but if Charles Brummitt served on a Q-ship whose admin affairs were handled by Dreel Castle, I'd expect to see the name of a ship in brackets after Dreel Castle in his service record. Experienced fishermen were employed in so many roles that it's very difficult to speculate what he might have been doing without further information to point us in a particular direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 22 June , 2007 Share Posted 22 June , 2007 Hi, Try post the record, its quite intriguing now, a researcher mentioning 'Q Ships' may mean something. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historydavid Posted 22 June , 2007 Share Posted 22 June , 2007 Mick, I can't find any mention of Falmouth in connection with Q ships, either as a primary or secondary name. Best wishes David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 23 June , 2007 Share Posted 23 June , 2007 David, Prize (Q-21) was fitted out at Falmouth, and Baralong put into Falmouth after her 'incident' with U-41. I would also like to know, though, where Krathome's 'professional researcher' got his/her info about Dreel Castle being the 'flagship of the Falmouth Q-ships'. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historydavid Posted 23 June , 2007 Share Posted 23 June , 2007 Hello Mick, sorry about that, I read Falmouth as a ship name, not the port. Best wishes David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 24 June , 2007 Share Posted 24 June , 2007 Falmouth was an assembly port for ships and convoys bound for places like Gibraltar, so perhaps the researcher meant that Dreel Castle was the 'mother ship' for the armed trawlers etc of the Auxiliary Patrol that patrolled and mine-swept the approaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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