Paul Stephens Posted 22 May , 2007 Share Posted 22 May , 2007 Hi there, Does anyone have a copy of the attached 'Military History Sheet' which isn't damaged along the lower left hand side? I am wondering as to the wording of the section immediately below the medal entitlement, and hoped some kind person might be able to advise? I believe it refers to next of kin but I'm not certain so any help would be most appreciated! Thanks in advance. Paul Stephens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred W Posted 22 May , 2007 Share Posted 22 May , 2007 The two items in that section are Injuries in or by the Services and Name and Address of next of kin Unable to read the writing as yet. Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhclark Posted 23 May , 2007 Share Posted 23 May , 2007 Paul, This is a list of his children and their dates and places of birth. What's his surname, (and that of his wife, if you have it)? Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Stephens Posted 23 May , 2007 Author Share Posted 23 May , 2007 Hi Fred/Noel I think I read this to be a bit more complicated than it really is! I was assuming that the section between medals and marriage referred to more than just next of kin, because I didn't stop to think that the original next of kin would be superceded after marriage. The record is for Pte Horace Bray of the 4th Middlesex (my Great grandfather), and I already know the details of his marriage and children (the youngest on the form is my grandmother), but I wasn't clear about the preceding section. You have both helped my realise that it refers to his brother Richard (later 6th East Lancs) who would have been next of kin when Horace first enlisted in 1903 - the only thing I now can't tell is part of the address. I believe it reads 1 Brother younger - Richard 711 ?? Southwark Street London SE But I have no idea what Tavistock and Ontario refer to. Many thanks for your help on this - and apologies for making a moutain out of a molehill! Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhclark Posted 23 May , 2007 Share Posted 23 May , 2007 Is the second word "House"? I've played around with the image and my best guess is "Fogans House." But it means nothing to me and Google doesn't help. Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta Posted 23 May , 2007 Share Posted 23 May , 2007 I've never seen such a document before - where did you find it? Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Stephens Posted 23 May , 2007 Author Share Posted 23 May , 2007 Hi Stephen, This is one of about 15 pages from Horace's Service record that I managed to find at Kew. He joined as a regular in the 4th Middlesex in October 1903, so I assume this page was contemporary with his enlistment. I have another identical form for Pte Henry Ilett dating to 1914, so it looks as if this was standard form in use for some time. Would any Pals be able to confirm? Thanks Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta Posted 23 May , 2007 Share Posted 23 May , 2007 Paul Thanx for the info - another reason to get to Kew Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhclark Posted 24 May , 2007 Share Posted 24 May , 2007 Stephen, I've got a number of these as well. On some the first page is headed "Army Form D 111" and is the Attestation of the man for Short Service with the Colours. On others the fron page of the Attestation for Long Service is the same or similar but I cannot read the number of the Form. I can't tell from the filmed images that I have whether the remaining pages are part of the same form, but they give a very complete history of the man's service, deatails of spouse and children, wounds, medals and awards etc. etc. Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinottercaptain Posted 26 May , 2007 Share Posted 26 May , 2007 Hi Fred/Noel I think I read this to be a bit more complicated than it really is! I was assuming that the section between medals and marriage referred to more than just next of kin, because I didn't stop to think that the original next of kin would be superceded after marriage. The record is for Pte Horace Bray of the 4th Middlesex (my Great grandfather), and I already know the details of his marriage and children (the youngest on the form is my grandmother), but I wasn't clear about the preceding section. You have both helped my realise that it refers to his brother Richard (later 6th East Lancs) who would have been next of kin when Horace first enlisted in 1903 - the only thing I now can't tell is part of the address. I believe it reads 1 Brother younger - Richard 711 ?? Southwark Street London SE But I have no idea what Tavistock and Ontario refer to. Many thanks for your help on this - and apologies for making a moutain out of a molehill! Paul Tavistock is a community in Ontario. About halfway between London, Ontario and Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario. Ironic names in a way. Unable to help you on what it means though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhclark Posted 27 May , 2007 Share Posted 27 May , 2007 Could it mean that Richard, the nok, had gone to Tavistock, Ontario, Canada, in 1905, or was there in 1905? Is this a possibility? Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Stephens Posted 28 May , 2007 Author Share Posted 28 May , 2007 Hi folks, After a bit more digging, I believe the mystery is solved! The Southwark address is Fegan's House, which was a children's home similar to Barnardos. It seems Richard emigrated to Canada as part of a scheme to give deprived youngsters a better life, and though I don't have too many details yet it seems he went to Tavistock around 1904-5. Many thanks for your help in getting to the bottom of this! Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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