Royal Bavarian Airfield Oberschleissheim and FFA 304 in Palestine

[egbert]

Being in Munich this week, I took some pictures of Flugwerft Oberschleissheim, where all Bavarian aviators were trained. They were billeted in the adjacent chateau/Schloss. Today's Schloss- pub was part of the former officer club and there is sign above a certain table where Manfred Freiherr von Richthofen used to drink his beer. In front of the pub is a memorial to all Bavarian aviators KIA.

Today the ex-airfield is not used anymore but some private small plane flying activities. The remodelled airfield hangar buildings today houses the German Museum Munich Aviation annex.

Enjoy the pics:

Edited 13 November , 2018 by egbert

[egbert]

Than airfield

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Today's airfield

Today

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Then motor housing

Then D VII body

Then Fokker D VII

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Then Otto

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Then another period "The day before yesterday"

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Then yesterday's Phantom II

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and the Now toys

...but still "Bavarian Air Force"

[ian turner]

Egbert,

Thanks for these. Picture in post 2 - must be when the gallant aviator Von Airfix-Revell learnt to fly??

You will remember his sad fate in the sand dunes, and posthumus award of the 'pour le cafe'??

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Is the HE 111 to be fully restored/airworthy?

Ian

[egbert]

Transportation to Palestine theatre

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Thanks to Friedhelm we have a contemporary picture of the loading

[egbert]

The following pictures show a side area of the Schloss/chateau (not the main building). Its a square yard with the memorials and the old aviators billets; directly within the corner of the buildings the famous officer casino

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[egbert]

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[egbert]

Egbert,

Thanks for these. Picture in post 2 - must be when the gallant aviator Von Airfix-Revell learnt to fly??

You will remember his sad fate in the sand dunes, and posthumus award of the 'pour le cafe'??

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Is the HE 111 to be fully restored/airworthy?

Ian

Ian, I remember there was a groundbreaking thread on the sand dunes incident here on GWF ;

HE 111= I doubt she will be restored to flying condition

[wilkokcl]

Interesting fotos Egbert - are you saying the officers casino is the small door with writing above it in the last pic of post 11? Did you take any pictures inside the club?

Mark

[Dragon]

Thanks, Egbert. I want to go there. The photos of the Heinkel restoration are interesting. I thought the nose cone looks slightly different from the ones I've seen - the glass seems differently divided. Is this perhaps because it is still being worked on?

Are the two pictures in post #8 the same plane? What are they, please?

Gwyn

[egbert]

Mark you're dead on : you see the entrance and the 2 left windows is where the plaque says that v.R. once used to sip his after mission beer. I was inside some 3 years ago, dining in the pub, but not today.

Gwyn, they are and its the Typhoon also known as Eurofighter.

Thanx for your interest!!!

[Dragon]

I wondered whether it was a Eurofighter, but it looked a bit battered.

Gwyn

[egbert]

Gwyn, there is an English language link from museum.

http://www.deutsches-museum.de/en/flugwerft/information/

The following picture reflects my shots shown above

Addition per 11May: Thanks to Friedhelm here is a contemporary aerial, showing the airfield from the opposing side

[michaeldr]

Many thanks Egbert

Very interesting photographs and details

regarding the information copied in your post #9

I don't know about the Lebanon but they certainly operated from fields in Palestine.

The vast photographic collection mentioned was left in the Munich War Archive

and was widely drawn on by Kedar for reproduction in his book 'The Changing Land between the Jordan and the Sea'

In November 1917 the Bavarians arrived at Merhavya, a small Jewish co-operative settlement, and they took over two of the four houses there.

However Kedar points out that "the presence of the Bavarians was beneficial for the settlement; they repeatedly intervened with the Turkish authorities on behalf of the settlers, treated their sick, and once menacingly over flew the neighbouring village of Slam and threw a bomb near it to make the villagers hand over to justice a thief who had come to blows with one of Merhavya's guards. The settlers and the Bavarians held common festivities."

regards

Michael

[Gibbo]

Thanks, Egbert. I want to go there. The photos of the Heinkel restoration are interesting. I thought the nose cone looks slightly different from the ones I've seen - the glass seems differently divided. Is this perhaps because it is still being worked on?

Are the two pictures in post #8 the same plane? What are they, please?

Gwyn

I visited this excellent museum a couple of years ago & I'm sure that the Heinkel under restoration is a Casa 2.111, the Spanish version, which might explain any differences.

Great pictures Egbert. Thanks.

[ian turner]

Gibbo,

I think you might be correct (Egbert will surely edify) - if I recall, the Casa version has differing air intakes below the engine (compare with model). I remember this from the film Battle of Britain, which employed Casa versions of the HE111.

Ian

[egbert]

Mi Casa

es su casa

Also I'd like to thank the 5 pals here who appreciated the time consuming resizing and posting effort at last!

[Martin Bennitt]

Gibbo,

I think you might be correct (Egbert will surely edify) - if I recall, the Casa version has differing air intakes below the engine (compare with model). I remember this from the film Battle of Britain, which employed Casa versions of the HE111.

Ian

The engine intakes and exhausts are different because the engines are different. Like the Spanish Bf 109s also featured in the Battle of Britain movie, the Casas were re-engined with Rolls-Royce Merlins, as fitted to Spitfires, Hurricanes etc. The height of irony, in a way.

cheers Martin B

[egbert]

I have added two more pics in posts #10 and #19