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Posted

Hello

I've managed to find some details about my grt grandad during the war, but I'd like to know more about his regiment and what they did. Can anyone help?

He was called Edward Higo

Served in the Lincolnshire Regiment

Reg no' 14511

Rank Private

At some point he was moved to Labour Corps

Reg no 457856

As I don't really understand the reg numbers, I can't find any info about his service. I think he may have been moved to the Labour Corps due to injury, as he claimed an army pension up until his death in 1922. However, what these injuries were, or how they were sustained is a complete mystery to me.

Any help much appreciated

Posted

Firstly never drink gin and milk :blink:

Do you have Edwards MIC?

It can be downloaded from the NA for £3.50. It may contain information on Edwards medal entitlement, date of entry into the war as well as information on a SWB. It is very possible that Edward was transfered to the LC after returning to service due to injury. His Service Record if it survived the Blitz will be at the NA, but this can only be viewed in person. I'm sure if you were to post a copy of Edwards MIC on the forum the experts will be along before soon, his service no. may give some clues to his Battn. as may the date of entry into the war zone and which war zone.

I hope this has helped, cheers for now,

Jon :D

Posted

Hello

I've managed to find some details about my grt grandad during the war, but I'd like to know more about his regiment and what they did. Can anyone help?

He was called Edward Higo

Served in the Lincolnshire Regiment

Reg no' 14511

Rank Private

Hi he was in the 8th Lincolns posted to the 1 coy he was sent ot a military prison on the 25/9/16 and after that joined the labour company would be grateful on any info you have on him

John

Posted

Hi John,

The MIC that Jon has listed is the initial key to the research. If he went to France in 1914/1915 it will provide you with a date of entry into theatre. Here is some info on the 8th lincolns:

http://www.1914-1918.net/21div.htm

This is the basis to work on where he went from there. If you know he was in a Military prison on the 25th September 1916 then you might be able to see if it was due to a Courts Martial.

There are records of courts martial in WO71 and WO93 and field court martials are in WO213 and WO90. All of these records have to be viewed at the NA.

You might be lucky enough to find his service records there as well. see this link for more info:

http://www.1914-1918.net/grandad/grandad.htm

Steve

Posted

Hi steve

thanks for the additional info it doesnt say in the roll which prison he was sent to just the date dont think it could have been to serious though as i have another guy same sort of thing but with his it just says detention military prison. There was a post awhile back of two 8th Lincolns involved in a mutiny in 1917.thanks again John

Posted
Can anyone help?

We're using a lot of abbreviations here that, as a newish member, you may not be fully understanding.

As suggested earlier, before you do anything else, read the "research" section of the Long Long Trail. It'll enable you to put together a good strategy for researching him as well as explaining some of the things you will come across.

In terms of the injury (or illness), unless you can get to the National Archives, you might have to wait until the pension files became available on-line at Ancestry.com. They only have the As & Bs loaded at present. This is, almost certainly, the only source of information for this part of your research.

Good luck

John

Posted

Thank you all very much indeed for your help - I certainly know a heck of a lot more about him than what I did yesterday, that's for sure.

Some of the abbreviations are a bit baffling, such as SWB and 1 coy, but I can soon rectify that.

Visiting the NA isn't really doable for me, but I only really wanted to know about his injuries out of curiosity I suppose. From looking at his death certificate, it would seem that alcohol certainly had a lot to answer for, which is hardly surprising given what they must have gone through.

I had another quick look on the long,long trail about the Lincs reg, and was quite surprised to see that some of the soldiers were posted to Ireland.

My grt grandmother was from Dublin and she met my grt grandad on the boat to england, as she was going to look for work. I've often wondered why he was in Ireland during that time, so it's highly likely that it's because he was posted there. Obviously I'll need to do some more searching around just to make sure though.

Once again, thank you.

Posted
such as SWB and 1 coy,

SWB = Silver War Badge. I'll let you look it up on the Long Long Trail, but basically a medal given to those discharged fromthe army due to illness or injury.

1 coy = "Number 1 Company". One of four companies of a battalion, with a round figure strength of 250 men. Long Long Trail will give you details of all the other bits - section, platoon, brigade, division, etc, etc

Have fun :)

John

Posted

Thanks - just found swb, so that's another lead to follow.

1 coy threw me completely, and I've haven't come accross the abbreviation in LLT yet.

But I know now! :)

Posted

Good luck with the search.

'Gin and milk'? Isn't that the diet where your weight stays the same but you lose a few days?

Bernard

Posted

Would have enlisted mid Dec 1914-to France, 1 Dec 1915 with 8th Lincs.

Jim

Posted

Oh, so he went to France first, then to Ireland a year later with the 8th?

Thanks for that Jim!

Posted

He couldn't have gone to Ireland with the 8th, but the Lincolnshire's 2/4th and 2/5th were over there in 1916 for the Easter Rising.

Posted

Oh blimey :o

I know he was with the 8th, but he was with the 3rd at one point as well. Did they ever go to Ireland? He was sent to military prison sept 1916, and labour corps after, but I'm still trying to find out what he did and where he did it! (prison wise, that is).

The more 'numbers' I come across, the more confused I become!

:blink:

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