private w.cox 7632

[Enorman529]

I have my great grandad's war records and know that he was in the 1st battalion if the east surrey regiment in 1905.(16 years in army)enlisted in late 1902 .His service number was 7632 . on his records it says he was in south africa in 1902 but this was crossed out and underneath it says european campaign 1915.

on his history sheet it says

france 29.12.02 - 12.8.1914 total 11 yrs 229 days

illegible 13.8.1914 - 17.12.1914 178 days

home 18.12.1914 - 26.4.1915 129 days

? france 27.4.1915 - 26.12.1915 244 days

home 27/12/1915 - 22.1..1916 28 days.

he was given 3 medals star british war medal victory is there a website i can visit that i might be able to understand as i have googled east surrey regiment ,and it goes on about regiments and battalions going into each other which is just sending me mad. i would like to find out where he was in france and other front line information. any help gratefully recieved.

.i can't match the badge on his cap to the 1's of the east surrey regiment any idea's.Looks like a horse with a flag flying behind it.

[IanA]

What a lot of questions! The badge is the easiest to answer straight away - it is the Queen's West Surrey Regiment. (A lamb not a horse!).

[IanA]

Pte Walter E. Cox (L/7632 incomplete) does have a Medal Index Card which can be downloaded for £3.50 and it does say EAST Surrey Regiment.

Incidentally, do look at the 'Long Long Trail' link at the top of the page. It is designed to be user-friendly and may clear a few things up for you. The MIC should let you know which battalion of the East Surreys he was in and that could then allow experts on the forum to say where he could have fought. Do ask questions! Friendly folks here!!

[eviltaxman]

He was in South Africa at some point. The ribbons in the photo clearly shows the Queens South Africa medal (QSA), the 14 Star (with rosette) and the British War Medal & Victory Medal.

Les.

[Enorman529]

Ian

Thank you for answering my question.I didn't see any transfer details on any of his army records,from east surrey to west surrey.

One officers name that signed his statement of service was a H Ringwood commander of ist battalion.

certainly a new mystery.

though grandad did tell his daughter that he was in Russia for 6 years but i haven't found any evidence of this.

Thank you for your help.

[Stebie9173]

Both the fact that he is wearing all his WW1 medal ribbons and the fact that he has collar badges on dates the photo as post-WW1.

Steve.

[Enorman529]

He was in South Africa at some point. The ribbons in the photo clearly shows the Queens South Africa medal (QSA), the 14 Star (with rosette) and the British War Medal & Victory Medal.

Les.

Eviltaxman

I didn't know he had the QSA either. i am researching this for his daughter who will be 100 in November .She is mentioned on his army records.

thank you again.

lizz

[Enorman529]

Both the fact that he is wearing all his WW1 medal ribbons and the fact that he has collar badges on dates the photo as post-WW1.

Steve.

I thought he was abit old for WW1 in the photo as he was born 1883 and he would have only been 33 by time of discharge.

His proceedings on discharge give corps as East Surrey Regiment ,Battalion,battery or company as DEPOT.

on the 29/01/1916 at Kingston on Thames.

he was in south africa from 22.2.1902 until 20.8.1902.

[IanA]

One thing which strikes me as very odd is his apparently being posted to France for 11 years prior to the war. It might be useful to scan the image of your document and the MIC if you download it.

[Enorman529]

One thing which strikes me as very odd is his apparently being posted to France for 11 years prior to the war. It might be useful to scan the image of your document and the MIC if you download it.

Ian

Nothing about his army records are adding up.

HE joined the army on the 15.5.1901 in london, recruiting staff officer Ottley,and joined the east surrey regiment.

on his parchment reserve certificate it says

he is transferred to army reserves in consequence of ----- on the exploration of his period of army service,

3 years service. services s cl medal 3 clasp.

place was jersey on the 28.12/1905 signed by lt col h ringwood.

al the below dates are from his casulty form

8.12.1914 admitted to field hospital until 9.12.1914

23.12.1914 to england oxfordshire until re-embarked 27.4.1915

9.5.1915 employed with 14th bde as signaller in field

27.12.1915 from front line for discharge to england.

also on the casulty form

9.4.1903 aldershot

24.10.1905 jersey

28.12.1915 jersey

18.12.1914- 24.12.1914 bristol for septic finger.

He embarked for s africa on 12.2.1902 and joined e surrey regt 30.12.1902

embodied ? 6.1.1902 disembodied 18.9.1902 (256 days)

on the proceedins on transfer form it says on his 1st transfer

he was a second class silverman in the officers mess for 12 months.place jersey on 28.12.1905

on his military history sheet it says as follows.

country from to years day

france 29.12.1902 12.8.1914 11 229

b e york ? 13.8.1914 17.12.1914 178

home 18.12.1914 26.4.1915 129

be ? france 27.4.1915 26.12.1915 244

home 27.12.1915 22.1.1916 78

he was discharged under para 392 (xx1)

unfortunately i can't scan them onto pc.

i would like to thank you for all your help.

lizz