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SHARDIE

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Hi everyone

I have a WWI BWM impressed to Capt, L Davies. I can see only one possible in the MIC listings LLWELLYN S DAVIES who was on the General List, no number and no regiment. I also thought he may be a merchant seaman. Are there any other possibilites?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Regards

Steve

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Officers had no number anyway and Army officer's BWMs and Victory Medals had no unit stamped on. Quite normal for a (british) Army officer's medals. Have you checked the Army List (the November 1918 edition is usually most useful for starters).

dave

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Hi everyone

I have a WWI BWM impressed to Capt, L Davies. I can see only one possible in the MIC listings LLWELLYN S DAVIES who was on the General List, no number and no regiment. I also thought he may be a merchant seaman. Are there any other possibilites?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Regards

Steve

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Hi everyone

I have a WWI BWM impressed to Capt, L Davies. I can see only one possible in the MIC listings LLWELLYN S DAVIES who was on the General List, no number and no regiment. I also thought he may be a merchant seaman. Are there any other possibilites?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Regards

Steve

Hi everyone

I have a WWI BWM impressed to Capt, L Davies. I can see only one possible in the MIC listings LLWELLYN S DAVIES who was on the General List, no number and no regiment. I also thought he may be a merchant seaman. Are there any other possibilites?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Regards

Steve

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Hi everyone

I have a WWI BWM impressed to Capt, L Davies. I can see only one possible in the MIC listings LLWELLYN S DAVIES who was on the General List, no number and no regiment. I also thought he may be a merchant seaman. Are there any other possibilites?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Regards

Steve

At least three other men alone on the online MIC's whose BWM and VM at least would have been named to Captain L Davies, plus numerous other Captain Davies with the initial L amongst others:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=2

Description Medal card of Davies, Lawrence

Corps Regiment No Rank

Royal Engineers 122260 Sapper

Royal Engineers Captain

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=9

Medal card of Davies, Leslie

Corps Regiment No Rank

15th London Regiment Second Lieutenant

15th London Regiment Captain

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=9

Description Medal card of Davies, Leonard

Corps Regiment No Rank

Rifle Brigade Lieutenant

Rifle Brigade Captain

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Thanks for all the input.

How can you establish which is my man when I only have the BWM, have I bought an medal which cannot be attributed to a person because of my inexperience. Im new to all this and this is my first officer's medal.

Could someone point me in the right direction.

How do I access the Army List?

Thanks again

Steve

At least three other men alone on the online MIC's whose BWM and VM at least would have been named to Captain L Davies, plus numerous other Captain Davies with the initial L amongst others:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=2

Description Medal card of Davies, Lawrence

Corps Regiment No Rank

Royal Engineers 122260 Sapper

Royal Engineers Captain

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=9

Medal card of Davies, Leslie

Corps Regiment No Rank

15th London Regiment Second Lieutenant

15th London Regiment Captain

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=9

Description Medal card of Davies, Leonard

Corps Regiment No Rank

Rifle Brigade Lieutenant

Rifle Brigade Captain

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The answer to your question re attribution is as you suggest you cannot attribute it unless you can identify the medals to all those with the same initials. This is the downside to officer medal research. If it was in a group or any paperwork evan an address label would give tou a fighting chance. Best thing is do preliminary research on each of the possibilities and see if there is anything interesting. Then simply enjoy the medal for what it is and represents. Keep a look out on the internet you never know the rest of the set may be out there. GAreth

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Thanks to everyone who responded.

I'm on a steep learning curve at the moment.

I thought officers were a good choice since there is additional free info available via the Gazettes, didn't realise this down side to attributing the medals to individuals. Thanks for the advice. The medal to Captain Davies is in mint condition regardless of his identity. You're right about appreciating what it represents regardless of the recipiant.

Thanks again

Steve

The answer to your question re attribution is as you suggest you cannot attribute it unless you can identify the medals to all those with the same initials. This is the downside to officer medal research. If it was in a group or any paperwork evan an address label would give tou a fighting chance. Best thing is do preliminary research on each of the possibilities and see if there is anything interesting. Then simply enjoy the medal for what it is and represents. Keep a look out on the internet you never know the rest of the set may be out there. GAreth
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Hi Welshdoc

Yes, tried gazette on basis of three most likely canditates, limited info available. How reliable are these offers of MIC look up in ebay I was going to splash out on the 3 MIC's but I'm in no great hurry, if I can get all 3 cards for the price of one, it seems like a good deal.

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Steve

Steve have you tried the london gazette online yet?
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Hi Gareth

Already thought about the MIC relationship, 3 different cards. However, totally transfixed on officer aspect didn't occur to me to check casualty sites... penny would probably have dropped eventually....foolish novice!!

Thanks again

Steve

Why not try the national archives directly as each page has 6 MICs with similar names you may be lucky and get all 3 for £3.50. No sign of Mcs for them

did you know 2 of the 3 are casualties?

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=552886

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=285314

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Ah well er teach me to look more carefully :( its not one of your isit. Good web site though just found 2 of mine . :)

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Just checked the grave number it is your man ignore the extra L Im sure the CWGC and NA names are correct, Leslie Davies. So put a flower on his grave.

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Gareth

One of the possibles but makes it more likely that one of the others is my man. Thanks for the link to the site.

Regards

Steve

Ah well er teach me to look more carefully :( its not one of your isit. Good web site though just found 2 of mine . :)
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Gareth

Missed one of your responses, is there some significance in leaving a flower that I'm missing?

Steve

Gareth

One of the possibles but makes it more likely that one of the others is my man. Thanks for the link to the site.

Regards

Steve

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Gareth

Sounds just a bit iffy to me, left a flower but I don't know if I'll make a habbit of it. It's my Scottish upbringing. I respect what these guy went through but virtual flowers on an internet website, I don't know if that's a fitting tribute, suppose it's something.....

Steve

On the find a grave website you can leave a message or a flower so it shows you have visted the memorial to that soul . No significance, but if its a soldier I have researched I leave a virtual flower.

An example

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?p...p;GRid=16112151

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