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Pte John C Lethaby


sandymae

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Hi Pals,

There is a CWWG in our local churchyard in North Molton, Devon to Pte John C Lethaby.

John was in the Machine Gun Corp - service No: 6945. Having survived WWI he died aged 21 in 1920 and is buried in his home village, his name is also recorded on the war memorial.

I looked up his details on NA website and found 2 records for John:

1st one:

Description: Medal card of Lethaby, John

Corps: Machine Gun Corps

Regiment No: 6945

Rank: Private

Date 1914-1920

Catalogue reference WO 372/24

Dept Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies

Series War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index, First World War

Piece Mentions in Despatches, Meritorious Service Medals and Territorial Force Efficiency Medals

His 2nd one reads:

Description Medal card of Lethaby, John

Corps: Machine Gun Corps

Regiment No: 6945

Rank: Private

Devonshire Regiment 18904 Private

Date 1914-1920

Catalogue reference WO 372/12

Dept Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies

Series War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index, First World War

Piece Langley P A - McGrath D

Is it possible to find out why he was mentioned in despatches, and what are Meritorious Service Medals and Territorial Force Efficiency medals?

I am assuming that he died as a result of the war.

If anyone could shed some light I would be grateful.

With thanks,

Sandra

PS: I have a photo of his headstone if anyone would like a copy for their records.

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Hi Sandra,

These are his details on the CWGC site:

Name: LETHABY

Initials: J C

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)

Secondary Regiment: Devonshire Regiment

Secondary Unit Text: formerly (18904) 3rd Bn.

Age: 25

Date of Death: 07/06/1920

Service No: 6945

Awards: M S M

Additional information: Husband of Clara Elizabeth Baker Lethaby, of Mole Cottage, North Molton.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: North of chancel.

Cemetery: NORTH MOLTON (ALL SAINTS) CHURCHYARD

See these links for the medals:

http://www.1914-1918.net/gallantry.htm

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...line/medals.asp

His MSM was Gazetted on the 3rd June 1919:

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...;selHonourType=

The details you have need to be downloaded from the NA site, at a cost of £3.50 each. That will give you the reference numbers for the medals, e.g. the Medal Index card (MIC). One of the cards will give you some basic info on his service life.

You have 2 cards because he was awarded a number of medals. The second one is a reference to the TEF, the MSM and his Mentioned in Despatches (MID).

Those cards can then be converted into the Medal Roll reference number at Kew.

Your best bet for finding out why he was MID is to try to find out what battalion he was serving in and look at their war diaries. You might find a reference to what units he served in the medal rolls.

Steve

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The second MIC, in series WO372/24, carries the details of one of the three types of award covered by that series i.e. the TFEM, MSM or MID, it doesn't mean that he was awarded all three.

In this instance I would suggest that the second MIC carries the details for the award of the MSM and its Gazette entry (the details of which Steve has provided a link to) and that Private J. C. Lethaby wasn't actually ever Mentioned In Despatches.

Downloading the card as Steve has suggested will give you the details to confirm this.

Hope this helps.

Steve

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To the 'Steve' Pals,

Thank you both for information, particularly for the weblinks. I appreciate your input, thanks for replying.

Sandra

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  • 5 months later...

After all this time I have now downloaded the second MIC:WO372/24.

Please could someone tell me where I can find the Peace Gazette.........thank you.

Sandra

MIC_2.doc

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Sandra

The Peace Gazette was the London Gazette issued on 3rd June 1919. Steve has provided a link to it in post #2.

Regards

Steve

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