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GOOD DAY My father served aboard the ex White Star Liner ALSATION During the great war, she was armed and the Royal Navy took command of her my fathers name ROBERT CURRAN i think was a stoker aboard the ship,question is how do i go about finding his record of service ?,the other problem is he also served in the army during the 39/45 war and was i know for sure at DUNKIRK ,I havent a clue what regt he was in ,May have been Engineers ,he did survive but like most of our defence personel did'nt talk about it ,which is a pity because those bits of info are now lost ,many thanks joe

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Hello Joe

Would this be him? Costs £3.50 to download the full record.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=2

I found two Robert Currans, and learnt here recently that the K prefix denotes a stoker. This is the only one of the two with a K number; but you will no doubt know your father's date and place of birth, and can see if it matches.

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Hello Joe

Would this be him? Costs £3.50 to download the full record.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=2

I found two Robert Currans, and learnt here recently that the K prefix denotes a stoker. This is the only one of the two with a K number; but you will no doubt know your father's date and place of birth, and can see if it matches.

MANY THANKS Greyhound but unfortunatley that is not him perhaps i should have mentioned he was born Jan 1900 toxteth liverpool uk,sorry about that regards joe

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OK, the other one was born 1898 in Wigan - but there are sometimes misspellings or poor transcriptions, so it's worth doing a search with some variations in the spelling.

Here's the place to look, see if you can come up with anything.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...amp;queryType=1

This would be better placed in "Ships and Navies", more naval experts there - perhaps a moderator can move it.

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OK, the other one was born 1898 in Wigan - but there are sometimes misspellings or poor transcriptions, so it's worth doing a search with some variations in the spelling.

Here's the place to look, see if you can come up with anything.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...amp;queryType=1

This would be better placed in "Ships and Navies", more naval experts there - perhaps a moderator can move it.

Thanks again i'll have a look see joe

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If you put 'Robert' as the first name, and 'toxteth' in the 'place' box, you get absolutely no-one born in 1900, let alone January.

You do however get the following:

Darracott, Robert

Official Number: SS107984

Place of Birth: Toxteth Liverpool, Lancashire

05 May 1887

Hughes, Robert

Official Number: SS123183

Place of Birth: Toxteth Liverpool

31 March 1899

Beggs, Robert

Official Number: SS122721

Place of Birth: Toxteth Liverpool

04 November 1896

Greenall, Robert James

Official Number: K57793

Place of Birth: Toxteth Liverpool, Lancashire

24 February 1895

Cobain, Robert

Official Number: K40108

Place of Birth: Toxteth Liverpool, Lancashire

24 December 1898

Temple, Robert Parks

Official Number: J51860

Place of Birth: Toxteth, Lancashire

28 October 1899

Thomas, William Robert

Official Number: J106224

Place of Birth: Toxteth Park, Liverpool

12 February 1907

Davies, Robert

Official Number: F19611

Place of Birth: Toxteth Liverpool

04 June 1851

Davies, John Robert

Official Number: 178192

Place of Birth: Toxteth Liverpool, Lancashire

18 December 1878

Woolley, Robert

Official Number: 171224

Place of Birth: Toxteth Liverpool

05 November 1873

None of the above look likely suspects, unless he lied about his name, age and date of birth? In which case, perhaps Robert Cobain or Robert James Greenall? Neither of them are on the CWGC.

Allie

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If we just go for Toxteth and January 1900, we get:

Barrett, Michael

Official Number: J91072

Place of Birth: Toxteth, Lancashire

21 January 1900

And he's not a stoker if we follow the 'K' rule mentioned above.

Allie

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If we just go for Toxteth and January 1900, we get:

Barrett, Michael

Official Number: J91072

Place of Birth: Toxteth, Lancashire

21 January 1900

And he's not a stoker if we follow the 'K' rule mentioned above.

Allie

Hello again thank you all for trying to sort this lot out its now been pointed out to me my mother was born 1900 and Robert Curran's birth was 1898,again thanks joe in 40c perth west oz

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So therefore this must be him (as mentioned by Greyhound), even without the K-prefix? (Wigan being in Lancashire, as is Toxteth)

Curran, Robert James

Official Number: J73115

Place of Birth: Wigan, Lancashire

25 April 1898

I wonder what the J prefix meant?

Allie

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So therefore this must be him (as mentioned by Greyhound), even without the K-prefix? (Wigan being in Lancashire, as is Toxteth)

Curran, Robert James

Official Number: J73115

Place of Birth: Wigan, Lancashire

25 April 1898

I wonder what the J prefix meant?

Allie

Thanks Allie But no Toxteth is a district of Liverpool Wigan although in Lanc's is twnty miles away,And in those days with not even a push bike it was further away,thanks for trying .joe ps he did'nt have a second name

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Robert CURRAN

2 Dec 1899, Toxteth Park, Liverpool

occ. Labourer

1901 residing at Byles St, Toxteth Park

1921 residing at Norfolk St, Liverpool

Ellen WALSH

17 Sep 1900,

1921 residing at Norfolk St, Liverpool

Allie

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Looks like it was misspelt in the parish register when they married:

Robert CURRIN To Ellen WALSH

1st August 1921 at Our Lady & St Nicholas, Liverpool. Reg No 306.

Robert CURRIN labourer (21 year old bachelor) of 5 House, 11 Court, Norfolk Street. Son of John Donald CURRIN, labourer

married

Ellen WALSH (20 year old spinster) of of 3 House, 11 Court, Norfolk Street. Daughter of David WALSH, labourer.

Witnesses - William George RUDKIN & Elizabeth WHALLEY.

There's a woman online doing an extended family tree, and the Currans are part of it.

Allie

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Robert CURRAN

2 Dec 1899, Toxteth Park, Liverpool

occ. Labourer

1901 residing at Byles St, Toxteth Park

1921 residing at Norfolk St, Liverpool

Ellen WALSH

17 Sep 1900,

1921 residing at Norfolk St, Liverpool

Allie

Yes Allie but i am trying to trace his war service on both wars first the navy then the army ,with respect .joe

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Yes, but at least we know his date of birth, now. And that he potentially used the name Currin.

Allie

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Yes, but at least we know his date of birth, now. And that he potentially used the name Currin.

Allie

TOUCHE' MON AMI JOE

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Going off on another tangent...

Did he emigrate to Australia (hence you living there now)? If so, on his immigration forms might he have had to put anything about his service in the armed forces? (No idea what those forms might contain - have never seen one)

On the Australian National Archives there is this file that you can request:

Title

CURRAN Robert [Application by British migrants for assisted passage]

Series number

PP4/1

Control symbol

2495

Contents date range

circa 1948 - circa 1956

Access status

Open

Location

Perth

Barcode

3274082

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Okay, scrap that thought, it probably relates to a different Robert Curran, namely this chap:

Title

CURRAN Robert born 17 April 1920; departing UK under the Assisted Passage Migration Scheme

Barcode

8047095

Series number

A1877

Series accession number

A1877/3

Control symbol

CURRAN R

Contents date range

1950 - 1950

Allie

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Going off on another tangent...

Did he emigrate to Australia (hence you living there now)? If so, on his immigration forms might he have had to put anything about his service in the armed forces? (No idea what those forms might contain - have never seen one)

On the Australian National Archives there is this file that you can request:

Title

CURRAN Robert [Application by British migrants for assisted passage]

Series number

PP4/1

Control symbol

2495

Contents date range

circa 1948 - circa 1956

Access status

Open

Location

Perth

Barcode

3274082

NO Allie I came out here over forty years ago with my own family dad by then was about 67,r u x uk also joe

Going off on another tangent...

Did he emigrate to Australia (hence you living there now)? If so, on his immigration forms might he have had to put anything about his service in the armed forces? (No idea what those forms might contain - have never seen one)

On the Australian National Archives there is this file that you can request:

Title

CURRAN Robert [Application by British migrants for assisted passage]

Series number

PP4/1

Control symbol

2495

Contents date range

circa 1948 - circa 1956

Access status

Open

Location

Perth

Barcode

3274082

NO Allie I came out here over forty years ago with my own family dad by then was about 67,r u x uk also joe

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I think I'm all out of tangents to try and go off on. :)

Allie

ALLIE MANY THANKS FOR THE EFFORTS YOU ARE CERTAINLY A TRYER MY RESPECTS GOD BLEESS JOE

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