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Guest MarkN

Hello All

Yet another 47th descendant.

My grandfather was 2482 Arthur Needham, a Lewis gunner. He enlisted on 13 Jan 1916 as part of the 5th reinforcements, wounded on 3 April 1918 at Dernancourt and evacuated to England. I found a photo of him (and others of the 47th) in the "Queenslander" published on 9 December 1916 just after they left Australia for England.

A question that others may be able to answer, is the relevance of the accuracy of the inter-battalion boundary between the 47th and other battalions shown on war diary maps.

Is it likely any difference is just an error on the particular map or are the maps just a guide anyway and the "boundary" determined by the actual trench or feature location? Any comments on how the responsibility was determined for defending the front line adjoining the inter-battalion boundary?

Also keen to get on the mailing list for any future books/history's to be published.

Mark

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My great great Uncle James Alfred Heading served in the 47th Btn. He was awarded a DCM and a MM. I haven't done a great deal of research on his story, but what I have found has been through a simple search online. I'd be happy to provide the medal citations and whatever else I have.

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cdeayton

Hi Mark

The battalion boundary between the 47th and 52nd at Dernancourt was of great significance. There was, as you may be aware, a breakthrough in this battle by the Germans at this boundary which led to both battalions being outflanked and the support lines and front lines of the 47th being overrun. Both Colonels claimed the other battalion had given way and an inquiry was held to find the truth. The railway bridge and underpass which marked the boundary was in the 52nd's area and thus the finding rested on where the Germans had broken through first.

My book on the history of the 47th Decision at Dernancourt) is due out this year so if you would like to read it I won't spoil the surprise by letting you know the outcome of the controversy (which was still rattling around in the 1920's). Suffice to say that it makes very interesting reading and I found the research for this battle particularly fascinating. Your Grandfather may have been fortunate to be evacuated on the 3rd of April as the main attack on the 5th was a disaster for the 47th.

If you send me your details, I'll put you on my list. The book will be published as part of the Australian Army History Series.

Best wishes

Craig Deayton

Hello All

Yet another 47th descendant.

My grandfather was 2482 Arthur Needham, a Lewis gunner. He enlisted on 13 Jan 1916 as part of the 5th reinforcements, wounded on 3 April 1918 at Dernancourt and evacuated to England. I found a photo of him (and others of the 47th) in the "Queenslander" published on 9 December 1916 just after they left Australia for England.

A question that others may be able to answer, is the relevance of the accuracy of the inter-battalion boundary between the 47th and other battalions shown on war diary maps.

Is it likely any difference is just an error on the particular map or are the maps just a guide anyway and the "boundary" determined by the actual trench or feature location? Any comments on how the responsibility was determined for defending the front line adjoining the inter-battalion boundary?

Also keen to get on the mailing list for any future books/history's to be published.

Mark

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cdeayton

Dear Pat

Certainly would be interested - sorry about the delay - I've only just got myself back on. I'm not sure how to send you my email offline but I'm sure there's no problem with including it here

principal@shc.tas.edu.au

Regards

Craig

Craig,

I have a photograph of Thomas Henry Kelly who served with 47AIF and was KIA at Messines on the 7 June 17. His cousin Edward Kelly is one of my "locals" and the photograph is from "The Herald" a newspaper published in Lisburn in N. Ireland. Another paper, the Standard, claims that he (Thomas) visited Edward's family at Christmas 1916 although there is no mention in his service record (AWM Series No. 2455/1 Barcode 3011455) of him having been on leave. The picture is too large to post but if you are interested PM an email address and I'll send it on.

Pat

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Craig,

I have a photograph of Thomas Henry Kelly who served with 47AIF and was KIA at Messines on the 7 June 17. His cousin Edward Kelly is one of my "locals" and the photograph is from "The Herald" a newspaper published in Lisburn in N. Ireland. Another paper, the Standard, claims that he (Thomas) visited Edward's family at Christmas 1916 although there is no mention in his service record (AWM Series No. 2455/1 Barcode 3011455) of him having been on leave. The picture is too large to post but if you are interested PM an email address and I'll send it on.

Pat

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majortom

Hi All

Edward Kelly KIA 1918 and Thomas Henry Kelly who served with 47AIF and KIA at Messines on 17 June 1917 were both my second cousins. I am compiling a war record of the Kellys for my family history but don't have much information at the moment. I would be extremely grateful for any information on the family or if someone can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance

Majortom

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Mate,

Since your book is due out you not need these small details on 47Bn soldiers whom served in the ALH.

I have these men, any details on them would help.

ADSHEAD John Layland 947 Pte 02 LHR 5R NTOS disch 9-10-15 MU relist 7R/47Bn (2947) to 44Bn F&B AKA John Lennard Adshead married in UK N/R Labourer 22 Ingham Qld / Hughenden Qld 6-1-15 4-10-16 RTA 15-8-15 RTA 18-12-18

APPLETON Alfred William 1683 Sig 02 LHR 12R tos 4-16 att WFF to 47Bn 9-16 WIA 2-5-18 at Dernancourt F&B buried Adelaide Cemetery Villers-Bretonneux France N/R Coal miner 18 Ipswich Qld 13-9-15 DoW 2-5-18

BARCLAY Robert George 2005 Pte 01 LHR 14R to 47Bn F&B N/R Labourer 30 Attunga NSW 28-9-15 RTA 27-8-17

BEGOURIE Harry 602 Pte 05 LHR A Sqn WIA 20-5-15 head near Monash Gully moving to No 3 sect (G) to 47Bn 3-16 WIA 6-8-16 head at Pozieres F&B died at 44 CCS buried Puchevillers British Cemetery France N/R Labourer 23 Mackay Qld 10-11-14 DoW 8-8-16

BREST Hastings Ferdinand 3024 Pte 25Bn 7R to 47Bn 3-16 WIA 2-9-16 back buried by shell at Pozieres to 45Bn 5-18 WIA 8-7-18 gas at Hamel to L/Cpl WIA 18-9-18 shelled at Cambrieres Wood near Le Verguier in last attack by Bn of the war F&B buried Roisel Communal Cemetery Extension France (ASqn CMF 2 years) Brother-in-law Arthur Jones Lt AFC 3 LH Letter-carrier 19 Toowoomba Qld 21-9-15 DoW 19-9-18

CARR-BOYD John Gerald 2318 Pte 02 LHR 16R to ACo/47Bn F&B killed at Passendaele NKG listed on The Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Belgium N/R Surveyors assistant 24 Alpha Qld 11-11-15 KIA 12-10-17

CRICHTON Leslie Norman 2/Lt 02 LHR 11R to C Sqn? 8-16 to 47Bn 4-17 WIA 7-6-17 L/ankle at Messines F&B N/R Bank clerk 23 West End Qld 11-6-15 RTA 15-4-18

DAVIDSON Varro Clarke 897 Pte 05 LHR 4R to A Sqn 5-15 (G) to 47Bn 9-16 F&B disch 6-11-17 MU N/R Bushman 24 Surat Qld 27-12-14 RTA 27-7-17

DEEBLE Arthur Vivian Maj 8 LHR C Sqn OC to 2ic RHQ (G) to LtCol AIF Depot UK to 69Bn to 47Bn to 48Bn F&B (10 LH 1908 to 2/Lt 4-7-10 to OC CSqn CMF to Maj 29 LH to Hon/LtCol 29 LH 1921) 29 LH Teacher 35 Balarat Vic 24-10-14 RTUK 12-5-18 RTA 5-7-19

ELLIS Edward Bertram 1976 Pte 2 Remts 7 Sqn relist 3R/47Bn (1938) F&B N/R Stockman 22 Bundaberg Qld 6-11-15 28-12-15 RTA 18-1-19

FERRIS Leopold Henry 2241 A/Sgt 02 LHR 15R to Sgt 47Bn F&B 4 LH Dealer 24 Wyrallah NSW 26-2-15 RTA 27-8-17

FULTON Arthur Leeman Lt 7 LHR C Sqn C Troop? to MG Sect T/att A/Adjt RHQ to T/Capt WIA 8-8-15 (G) to 60Bn to Maj BCo/47Bn F&B killed at Pozieres born 18-11-94 NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial France PMF Soldier / RMC Duntroon 20 Footscray Vic 3-11-14 KIA 7-8-16

HANNAY Denis Vincent Lt 05 LHR 8R att D Troop BSqn/Comp LHR to 2ic BSqn? rtn 05 LHR to Capt 47Bn WIA 7-8-16 at Pozieres WIA 28-3-18 at Millencourt near Dernancourt to Maj 2ic BHQ to 45Bn F&B (Prov/2/Lt ASqn 31-3-13 CMF) 3 LH Journalist 37 Pittsworth Qld 18-1-16 RTA 2-6-19

HOWARD Arthur 749 Pte 02 LHR 2R (1056) remain Egypt to AProvC batman to Lt Worthington 5-15 rtn 02 LHR 1-16 deserted 5-4-16 relist A/Cpl 10R/47Bn (3768) killed in counter attack by 13 Bde at Dernancourt F&B (14 LH QMI CMF) AKA alais Cyril Peter Burns NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial France brother George MM 20Bn 3 LH Labourer / Clerk 21 23 Rodgers Creek via Warwick Qld & Lismore NSW 14-12-14 20-3-17 KIA 5-4-18

JOHNS Albert Walker 2047 Pte 02 LHR 14R to 4 Div Cyc Co 4-16 to AProvC 4 Div HQ 5-16 to A/Cpl 12 Bde HQ 7-16 to BCo/47Bn 4-17 reported WIA 7-6-17 & MIA F&B killed at Messines NKG listed on The Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Belgium (QMI CMF 18 months) 15 LH Farmer 26 Mundubbera via Gayndah Qld 12-10-15 KIA 7-6-17

KENNEDY Neville Claude Mervyn 652 Pte 02 LHR 1R to C Sqn WIA 14-5-15 minor at Quinns Post (G) to Dvr 14Co AASC 4 Div Trn 4-16 to Cpl 47Bn 9-17 MM for his actions at Dernancourt 29-3-18 to 46Bn 6-18 F&B N/R Stockman 26 Towsville Qld 29-10-14 RTA 3-12-18

LEWIS Eric St Leger Capt 03 LHR C Sqn (G) WIA 19-5-15 chest to Maj 47Bn to T/LtCol F&B disch 1-5-18 MU (Pte TMI 1900 to Lt 1907 att 21st (Empress of India's) Lancers in India to OC CSqn CMF) 26 LH Indepentant 40 Nth Hobart Tas 20-8-14 RTA 1-2-18

BURNS Cyril Peter 3768 Pte 47Bn 10R KIA in counter attack by 13 Bde at Dernancourt F&B NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial France AKA real name Arthur Howard brother George MM LH Clerk 23 Lismore NSW 20-3-17 KIA 5-4-18

HINTON William Henry 3363 Pte 47Bn 9R to ACo F&B killed on Wytshaete Ridge buried Derry House Cemetery Wytschaete Belgium father William Sgt CMF 27 LH Ironmonger 22 Rosella Mackay Qld 23-10-16 KIA 19-8-17

HOWARD Walter 2445 Pte 47Bn 5R F&B killed at Passendaele NKG listed on The Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Belgium 27 LH Shop assistant 21 Mackay Qld 20-3-16 KIA 12-10-17

LANE Michael Joseph 2467 Pte 47Bn 5R to Cpl 46Bn (2467a) MM for his actions at Peronne 18-9-18 F&B 1 LH Draper 22 Gympie Qld 20-3-16 RTA 19-6-19

RADCLIFFE Leslie Caldwell 2232 Pte 47Bn 4R pron 2/Lt F&B killed near Boves buried Domart Sur-La-Luce Communal Cemetery France 2 LH Farmer 21 Ayr Lower Burdekin Qld 25-2-16 KIA 2-8-18

MAHONY Morgan Dunstan 957 Pte 02 LHR 5R NTOS disch 14-1-16 MU lungs relist 3R/47Bn (3219) NTOS disch 3-1-18 MU (Boer War RGA) (British RGA) N/R Labourer 36 Brisbane Qld 31-12-14 3-11-16 RTA 13-10-15 RTA 23-8-17

MARTIN Richard 1359 Pte 15Bn 2R (G) to 47Bn (1359a) WIA 9-8-16 shell shock at Pozieres WIA 7-6-17 arm near Messines WIA 15-10-17 hand at Passendaele F&B NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial Belgium 2 LH Labourer 22 Cleveland Qld 17-12-14 KIA 28-3-18

McCAW Robert John 18 Staff/SM 03 LHR MG Sect (G) WIA 16-5-15 att 19Bn prom 2/Lt 47Bn F&B reemb A/QM 47Bn disch 1-7-18 (Boer War Royal Irish Rifles) A&I staff Soldier / A&I staff 36 Nth Adelaide SA 1-9-14 21-3-18 RTA 10-9-17 RTA 5-4-18 died 19-1-28

McCORMACK Thomas 1601 Pte 05 LHR 12R to ACo/47Bn killed at Riencourt Bullicourt F&B NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial France N/R Lorrydriver 37 Townsville Qld 23-8-15 KIA 11-4-17

McDONALD Murdoch 22 Pte 02 LHR RHQ batman to B Sqn (G) RTA enteric MU relist 8R/47Bn (3252) to Cpl F&B (British 2nd Dragoons Royal Scots Greys 5 years) N/R Chef Cook 29 Brisbane Qld 25-8-14 16-11-16 RTA 11-4-16 RTA 23-9-18

McDOWELL John 2395 Pte 15Bn 7R to 47Bn F&B killed at Pozieres NKG listed on Villers-Bretonneux Memorial France (QMI to BSqn/3 LH CMF) 14 LH Farmer 21 Goomburra Allora Qld 4-5-15 KIA 10-8-16

McGREGOR Alexander Stuart 779 Pte 11 LHR 1R to A Sqn att 02 LHR (G) to 47Bn F&B died broncho pneumonia buried Abbeville Communal Cemetery Extension France (Boer War 5 QIB (118) N/R Labourer 35 Albion Qld 6-1-15 DoD 14-4-17

McLAUGHLIN Herbert Francis 2/Lt 05 LHR A Sqn to Capt MG Sect? (G) to 47Bn to Maj T/att 46Bn F&B disch 28-6-18 SNLR Ex Pte to T/SSM ASqn/05 LHR (162) prom 2/Lt N/R Solicitor 32 Rockhampton Qld 21-11-14 1-10-14 RTA 15-4-18

MELLIFONT Patrick James David 634 Pte 02 LHR 1R NTOS disch 26-5-15 MU kidneys relist 6R/47Bn (2691) to 47Bn (2691a) WIA 13-8-17 on Wytshaete Ridge WIA 12-10-17 leg & hand at Passendael to 46Bn 5-18 F&B killed at Hamel buried Villers Bretonneux Military Cemetery Fouilloy France (Boer War 3 QIB (308) and 6 QIB (639) to Doyle's Scouts) (Qld Vol Rifles CMF) AKA Patrick James Davis Mellifont brother Thomas 26Bn CMF Advertising agent / Railworker 33 35 Newstead Qld 17-9-14 20-9-16 RTA 22-3-15 KIA 4-7-18

NIXON Bertie Clarence 9 Cpl 14 LHR A Sqn to L/Sgt (13 Trg Bn) 52Bn UK 9-16 to Cpl BCo/47Bn 2-17 PoW 11-4-17 at Riencourt Bullicourt to Limberg Germany F&B N/R Contractor 24 Eidsvold Qld 26-10-15 RTA 25-3-19

O'REGAN Patrick 198 Dvr 11 LHR A Sqn att DSqn/02 LHR (G) to CCo/47Bn WIA & PoW 30-10-17 amputated L/leg Germany F&B rtn hosp UK 20-1-18 N/R Stationhand 21 Richmond Vic 28-12-14 RTA 6-11-18

PARKER John James 329 Pte 11 LHR B Sqn att 05 LHR WIA 6-11-15 arm (G) to 47Bn to 42Bn to 51Bn F&B N/R Stationhand 21 Manjinup WA 2-1-15 RTA 5-4-19

PRICE William Lt 28Bn 6R to CTC 1-16 to 4 Div Cyc Co 5-16 to 47Bn 6-16 F&B to AIF depots 11-16 to Adjt 4 Com depot 1-18 to Capt 11-18 to RTO 6-19 MBE N/R Member of Parliament 42 West Subiaco WA 26-7-15 RTA 5-6-20

ROBINSON Albert 204 Dvr 02 LHR A Sqn (G) to 47Bn 9-16 to 46Bn 5-18 F&B disch 24-1-19 RNVR Groom 21 Laidley Qld 22-8-14 RTA 24-9-18

ROBINSON William James 2071 Pte 01 LHR 14R to 47Bn F&B killed at Dernancourt NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial France N/R Labourer 18 Bergalia NSW 18-10-15 KIA 3-4-18

ROGERS Allan 1022 Pte 11 LHR 4R to 47Bn disch MU glands N/R Shearer 27 Toowoomba Qld 28-5-15 RTA 2-9-16

ROSE John Patrick 585 Pte 12 LHR C Sqn RTA VD relist 3R/31Bn (2191) to 47Bn disch 7-8-16 VD relist 6R/ICC (R585) rtn CSqn/12 LHR (B) N/R Labourer 21 Condobolin NSW 12-1-15 17-2-16 15-12-16 RTA 30-8-15 RTA 1-7-16 RTA 20-7-19

SCOTT Charles Douglas Livingstone 108 Cpl 02 LHR A Sqn to Sgt 8-15 (G) to DCo/47Bn 10-16 prom 2/Lt 2-17 MC F&B killed at Messines buried Messines Ridge British Cemetery Belgium N/R Reporter 22 Ipswich Qld 22-8-14 KIA 7-6-17

SMITH Alexander Charlton 1783 Pte 02 LHR 12R to 47Bn F&B N/R Stockman 30 Grassmere Mitchell Qld 10-9-15 RTA 16-7-17

SMITH George James 3 Pte 1 LH Bde HQ HQ to 5Co AASC (169) 3-15 to 1Co AASC att Comp AASC WFF to 3Co to 47Bn 4-16 att 4 Div HQ to 1 DASP 7-16 WIA 10-7-17 chest accident playing sport disch 24-12-17 MU F&B (Boer War 6 QIB (398) AKA George James Bardo Smith N/R Tally Clerk 37 Port Melbourne Vic 18-8-14 RTA 27-9-17

SMITH Joseph Edgar 798 Pte 02 LHR 3R to Cpl (G) to Sgt DCo/47Bn prom 2/Lt 4-17 WIA 7-6-17 thigh & wrist at Messines WIA 28-3-18 minor at Dernencourt PoW 5-4-18 in counter attack by 13 Bde at Dernancourt reported MIA F&B N/R Ironmonger 22 Young NSW 16-12-14 RTA 1-12-18

STEWART Thomas Campbell 799 Pte 02 LHR 3R (G) to 47Bn WIA 12-10-17 face & arm at Passchendaele F&B disch 9-10-18 MU N/R Station hand 25 Longreach Qld 16-12-14 RTA 31-1-18

STOREY George Percival 572 Pte 05 LHR C Sqn to 2/Lt CCo/46Bn MC to 47Bn F&B N/R Bookkeeper 22 Brisbane Qld 5-11-14 RTA 22-8-19

STRANG John Thomson Fletcher 608 Pte 05 LHR C Sqn relist Cpl DCo/47Bn F&B killed at Messines NKG listed on The Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Belgium N/R Labourer 19 Square Top Qld 7-11-14 RTA 5-9-15 KIA 7-6-17

STUART Coulson Douglas 892 Pte 02 LHR 4R to A Sqn (G) to 47Bn 9-16 WIA 2-5-18 "S" gas at Dernancourt to 45Bn 8-18 WIA 8-9-18 back & arm accident F&B married in UK 8 IR Labourer 19 Brisbane Qld 21-12-14 RTA 9-7-19

STUBBS Eric Charles 1383 Pte 05 LHR 11R to Cpl 47Bn F&B to Cpl A Troop C Sqn N/R Overseer 28 Brisbane Qld 30-7-15 RTA 28-6-19

VARCOE William Gordon 1951 Pte 01 LHR 13R to 4 Pnr Bn to 47Bn WIA 7-6-17 thigh & back WIA 5-4-18 thigh in counter attack by 13 Bde at Dernancourt WIA 20-9-18 buttocks to 45Bn F&B 7 LH Driver 27 Hillston NSW 27-10-15 RTA 13-12-18

WADE William 2600 Pte 4 LHFA A Sect Cook to 1 AGH 12-15 to 47Bn 3-17 att batman HQ 2 Anzac Corps 4-17 F&B disch 25-4-18 MU N/R Butcher 30 Adelaide SA 8-2-15 RTA 30-1-18

WEST Wilmot Ernest 3204 Pte 15Bn 10R Tos 2-16 to 47Bn 3-16 WIA 9-8-16 R/leg & thigh at Pozieres F&B killed at Messines NKG listed on The Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Belgium (CMF 2 years) 26 LH Farmer 20 Westbury Tas 4-8-15 KIA 7-6-17

WILDHABER John George 325 A/Cpl 05 LHR B Sqn to Cpl 6-15 (G) to L/Sgt 47Bn 11-16 WIA 2-1-18 burn R/thigh accident near Peronne F&B (QVR CMF 2 years) CMF Station overseer 25 Sth Brisbane Qld 28-10-14 RTA 9-12-18

WILLIAMS Allan Herbert 691 Pte 05 LHR 1R to 47Bn F&B N/R Labourer 22 Grafton NSW 7-12-14 RTA 20-11-18

WILSON Montague 91 L/Cpl 05 LHR B Sqn to Sgt 47Bn F&B N/R stockman 31 Sth Brisbane Qld 24-9-14 RTA 24-9-18

Cheers

S.B

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Hi Steve

Are you looking for information on the men you listed. If yes, I can help you with detailed information on Pat Mellifont. Let me know.

Peter

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stevebecker

Peter,

Sorry not in particular but any bio detail on these men is always welcome.

Cheers

S.B

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cdeayton

Dear Steve

I've just checked back in and going through your post. Excellent for cross referencing and some great new information. Many, many thanks

Craig

Mate,

Since your book is due out you not need these small details on 47Bn soldiers whom served in the ALH.

I have these men, any details on them would help.

ADSHEAD John Layland 947 Pte 02 LHR 5R NTOS disch 9-10-15 MU relist 7R/47Bn (2947) to 44Bn F&B AKA John Lennard Adshead married in UK N/R Labourer 22 Ingham Qld / Hughenden Qld 6-1-15 4-10-16 RTA 15-8-15 RTA 18-12-18

APPLETON Alfred William 1683 Sig 02 LHR 12R tos 4-16 att WFF to 47Bn 9-16 WIA 2-5-18 at Dernancourt F&B buried Adelaide Cemetery Villers-Bretonneux France N/R Coal miner 18 Ipswich Qld 13-9-15 DoW 2-5-18

BARCLAY Robert George 2005 Pte 01 LHR 14R to 47Bn F&B N/R Labourer 30 Attunga NSW 28-9-15 RTA 27-8-17

BEGOURIE Harry 602 Pte 05 LHR A Sqn WIA 20-5-15 head near Monash Gully moving to No 3 sect (G) to 47Bn 3-16 WIA 6-8-16 head at Pozieres F&B died at 44 CCS buried Puchevillers British Cemetery France N/R Labourer 23 Mackay Qld 10-11-14 DoW 8-8-16

BREST Hastings Ferdinand 3024 Pte 25Bn 7R to 47Bn 3-16 WIA 2-9-16 back buried by shell at Pozieres to 45Bn 5-18 WIA 8-7-18 gas at Hamel to L/Cpl WIA 18-9-18 shelled at Cambrieres Wood near Le Verguier in last attack by Bn of the war F&B buried Roisel Communal Cemetery Extension France (ASqn CMF 2 years) Brother-in-law Arthur Jones Lt AFC 3 LH Letter-carrier 19 Toowoomba Qld 21-9-15 DoW 19-9-18

CARR-BOYD John Gerald 2318 Pte 02 LHR 16R to ACo/47Bn F&B killed at Passendaele NKG listed on The Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Belgium N/R Surveyors assistant 24 Alpha Qld 11-11-15 KIA 12-10-17

CRICHTON Leslie Norman 2/Lt 02 LHR 11R to C Sqn? 8-16 to 47Bn 4-17 WIA 7-6-17 L/ankle at Messines F&B N/R Bank clerk 23 West End Qld 11-6-15 RTA 15-4-18

DAVIDSON Varro Clarke 897 Pte 05 LHR 4R to A Sqn 5-15 (G) to 47Bn 9-16 F&B disch 6-11-17 MU N/R Bushman 24 Surat Qld 27-12-14 RTA 27-7-17

DEEBLE Arthur Vivian Maj 8 LHR C Sqn OC to 2ic RHQ (G) to LtCol AIF Depot UK to 69Bn to 47Bn to 48Bn F&B (10 LH 1908 to 2/Lt 4-7-10 to OC CSqn CMF to Maj 29 LH to Hon/LtCol 29 LH 1921) 29 LH Teacher 35 Balarat Vic 24-10-14 RTUK 12-5-18 RTA 5-7-19

ELLIS Edward Bertram 1976 Pte 2 Remts 7 Sqn relist 3R/47Bn (1938) F&B N/R Stockman 22 Bundaberg Qld 6-11-15 28-12-15 RTA 18-1-19

FERRIS Leopold Henry 2241 A/Sgt 02 LHR 15R to Sgt 47Bn F&B 4 LH Dealer 24 Wyrallah NSW 26-2-15 RTA 27-8-17

FULTON Arthur Leeman Lt 7 LHR C Sqn C Troop? to MG Sect T/att A/Adjt RHQ to T/Capt WIA 8-8-15 (G) to 60Bn to Maj BCo/47Bn F&B killed at Pozieres born 18-11-94 NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial France PMF Soldier / RMC Duntroon 20 Footscray Vic 3-11-14 KIA 7-8-16

HANNAY Denis Vincent Lt 05 LHR 8R att D Troop BSqn/Comp LHR to 2ic BSqn? rtn 05 LHR to Capt 47Bn WIA 7-8-16 at Pozieres WIA 28-3-18 at Millencourt near Dernancourt to Maj 2ic BHQ to 45Bn F&B (Prov/2/Lt ASqn 31-3-13 CMF) 3 LH Journalist 37 Pittsworth Qld 18-1-16 RTA 2-6-19

HOWARD Arthur 749 Pte 02 LHR 2R (1056) remain Egypt to AProvC batman to Lt Worthington 5-15 rtn 02 LHR 1-16 deserted 5-4-16 relist A/Cpl 10R/47Bn (3768) killed in counter attack by 13 Bde at Dernancourt F&B (14 LH QMI CMF) AKA alais Cyril Peter Burns NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial France brother George MM 20Bn 3 LH Labourer / Clerk 21 23 Rodgers Creek via Warwick Qld & Lismore NSW 14-12-14 20-3-17 KIA 5-4-18

JOHNS Albert Walker 2047 Pte 02 LHR 14R to 4 Div Cyc Co 4-16 to AProvC 4 Div HQ 5-16 to A/Cpl 12 Bde HQ 7-16 to BCo/47Bn 4-17 reported WIA 7-6-17 & MIA F&B killed at Messines NKG listed on The Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Belgium (QMI CMF 18 months) 15 LH Farmer 26 Mundubbera via Gayndah Qld 12-10-15 KIA 7-6-17

KENNEDY Neville Claude Mervyn 652 Pte 02 LHR 1R to C Sqn WIA 14-5-15 minor at Quinns Post (G) to Dvr 14Co AASC 4 Div Trn 4-16 to Cpl 47Bn 9-17 MM for his actions at Dernancourt 29-3-18 to 46Bn 6-18 F&B N/R Stockman 26 Towsville Qld 29-10-14 RTA 3-12-18

LEWIS Eric St Leger Capt 03 LHR C Sqn (G) WIA 19-5-15 chest to Maj 47Bn to T/LtCol F&B disch 1-5-18 MU (Pte TMI 1900 to Lt 1907 att 21st (Empress of India's) Lancers in India to OC CSqn CMF) 26 LH Indepentant 40 Nth Hobart Tas 20-8-14 RTA 1-2-18

BURNS Cyril Peter 3768 Pte 47Bn 10R KIA in counter attack by 13 Bde at Dernancourt F&B NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial France AKA real name Arthur Howard brother George MM LH Clerk 23 Lismore NSW 20-3-17 KIA 5-4-18

HINTON William Henry 3363 Pte 47Bn 9R to ACo F&B killed on Wytshaete Ridge buried Derry House Cemetery Wytschaete Belgium father William Sgt CMF 27 LH Ironmonger 22 Rosella Mackay Qld 23-10-16 KIA 19-8-17

HOWARD Walter 2445 Pte 47Bn 5R F&B killed at Passendaele NKG listed on The Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Belgium 27 LH Shop assistant 21 Mackay Qld 20-3-16 KIA 12-10-17

LANE Michael Joseph 2467 Pte 47Bn 5R to Cpl 46Bn (2467a) MM for his actions at Peronne 18-9-18 F&B 1 LH Draper 22 Gympie Qld 20-3-16 RTA 19-6-19

RADCLIFFE Leslie Caldwell 2232 Pte 47Bn 4R pron 2/Lt F&B killed near Boves buried Domart Sur-La-Luce Communal Cemetery France 2 LH Farmer 21 Ayr Lower Burdekin Qld 25-2-16 KIA 2-8-18

MAHONY Morgan Dunstan 957 Pte 02 LHR 5R NTOS disch 14-1-16 MU lungs relist 3R/47Bn (3219) NTOS disch 3-1-18 MU (Boer War RGA) (British RGA) N/R Labourer 36 Brisbane Qld 31-12-14 3-11-16 RTA 13-10-15 RTA 23-8-17

MARTIN Richard 1359 Pte 15Bn 2R (G) to 47Bn (1359a) WIA 9-8-16 shell shock at Pozieres WIA 7-6-17 arm near Messines WIA 15-10-17 hand at Passendaele F&B NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial Belgium 2 LH Labourer 22 Cleveland Qld 17-12-14 KIA 28-3-18

McCAW Robert John 18 Staff/SM 03 LHR MG Sect (G) WIA 16-5-15 att 19Bn prom 2/Lt 47Bn F&B reemb A/QM 47Bn disch 1-7-18 (Boer War Royal Irish Rifles) A&I staff Soldier / A&I staff 36 Nth Adelaide SA 1-9-14 21-3-18 RTA 10-9-17 RTA 5-4-18 died 19-1-28

McCORMACK Thomas 1601 Pte 05 LHR 12R to ACo/47Bn killed at Riencourt Bullicourt F&B NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial France N/R Lorrydriver 37 Townsville Qld 23-8-15 KIA 11-4-17

McDONALD Murdoch 22 Pte 02 LHR RHQ batman to B Sqn (G) RTA enteric MU relist 8R/47Bn (3252) to Cpl F&B (British 2nd Dragoons Royal Scots Greys 5 years) N/R Chef Cook 29 Brisbane Qld 25-8-14 16-11-16 RTA 11-4-16 RTA 23-9-18

McDOWELL John 2395 Pte 15Bn 7R to 47Bn F&B killed at Pozieres NKG listed on Villers-Bretonneux Memorial France (QMI to BSqn/3 LH CMF) 14 LH Farmer 21 Goomburra Allora Qld 4-5-15 KIA 10-8-16

McGREGOR Alexander Stuart 779 Pte 11 LHR 1R to A Sqn att 02 LHR (G) to 47Bn F&B died broncho pneumonia buried Abbeville Communal Cemetery Extension France (Boer War 5 QIB (118) N/R Labourer 35 Albion Qld 6-1-15 DoD 14-4-17

McLAUGHLIN Herbert Francis 2/Lt 05 LHR A Sqn to Capt MG Sect? (G) to 47Bn to Maj T/att 46Bn F&B disch 28-6-18 SNLR Ex Pte to T/SSM ASqn/05 LHR (162) prom 2/Lt N/R Solicitor 32 Rockhampton Qld 21-11-14 1-10-14 RTA 15-4-18

MELLIFONT Patrick James David 634 Pte 02 LHR 1R NTOS disch 26-5-15 MU kidneys relist 6R/47Bn (2691) to 47Bn (2691a) WIA 13-8-17 on Wytshaete Ridge WIA 12-10-17 leg & hand at Passendael to 46Bn 5-18 F&B killed at Hamel buried Villers Bretonneux Military Cemetery Fouilloy France (Boer War 3 QIB (308) and 6 QIB (639) to Doyle's Scouts) (Qld Vol Rifles CMF) AKA Patrick James Davis Mellifont brother Thomas 26Bn CMF Advertising agent / Railworker 33 35 Newstead Qld 17-9-14 20-9-16 RTA 22-3-15 KIA 4-7-18

NIXON Bertie Clarence 9 Cpl 14 LHR A Sqn to L/Sgt (13 Trg Bn) 52Bn UK 9-16 to Cpl BCo/47Bn 2-17 PoW 11-4-17 at Riencourt Bullicourt to Limberg Germany F&B N/R Contractor 24 Eidsvold Qld 26-10-15 RTA 25-3-19

O'REGAN Patrick 198 Dvr 11 LHR A Sqn att DSqn/02 LHR (G) to CCo/47Bn WIA & PoW 30-10-17 amputated L/leg Germany F&B rtn hosp UK 20-1-18 N/R Stationhand 21 Richmond Vic 28-12-14 RTA 6-11-18

PARKER John James 329 Pte 11 LHR B Sqn att 05 LHR WIA 6-11-15 arm (G) to 47Bn to 42Bn to 51Bn F&B N/R Stationhand 21 Manjinup WA 2-1-15 RTA 5-4-19

PRICE William Lt 28Bn 6R to CTC 1-16 to 4 Div Cyc Co 5-16 to 47Bn 6-16 F&B to AIF depots 11-16 to Adjt 4 Com depot 1-18 to Capt 11-18 to RTO 6-19 MBE N/R Member of Parliament 42 West Subiaco WA 26-7-15 RTA 5-6-20

ROBINSON Albert 204 Dvr 02 LHR A Sqn (G) to 47Bn 9-16 to 46Bn 5-18 F&B disch 24-1-19 RNVR Groom 21 Laidley Qld 22-8-14 RTA 24-9-18

ROBINSON William James 2071 Pte 01 LHR 14R to 47Bn F&B killed at Dernancourt NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial France N/R Labourer 18 Bergalia NSW 18-10-15 KIA 3-4-18

ROGERS Allan 1022 Pte 11 LHR 4R to 47Bn disch MU glands N/R Shearer 27 Toowoomba Qld 28-5-15 RTA 2-9-16

ROSE John Patrick 585 Pte 12 LHR C Sqn RTA VD relist 3R/31Bn (2191) to 47Bn disch 7-8-16 VD relist 6R/ICC (R585) rtn CSqn/12 LHR (<img src="http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" /> N/R Labourer 21 Condobolin NSW 12-1-15 17-2-16 15-12-16 RTA 30-8-15 RTA 1-7-16 RTA 20-7-19

SCOTT Charles Douglas Livingstone 108 Cpl 02 LHR A Sqn to Sgt 8-15 (G) to DCo/47Bn 10-16 prom 2/Lt 2-17 MC F&B killed at Messines buried Messines Ridge British Cemetery Belgium N/R Reporter 22 Ipswich Qld 22-8-14 KIA 7-6-17

SMITH Alexander Charlton 1783 Pte 02 LHR 12R to 47Bn F&B N/R Stockman 30 Grassmere Mitchell Qld 10-9-15 RTA 16-7-17

SMITH George James 3 Pte 1 LH Bde HQ HQ to 5Co AASC (169) 3-15 to 1Co AASC att Comp AASC WFF to 3Co to 47Bn 4-16 att 4 Div HQ to 1 DASP 7-16 WIA 10-7-17 chest accident playing sport disch 24-12-17 MU F&B (Boer War 6 QIB (398) AKA George James Bardo Smith N/R Tally Clerk 37 Port Melbourne Vic 18-8-14 RTA 27-9-17

SMITH Joseph Edgar 798 Pte 02 LHR 3R to Cpl (G) to Sgt DCo/47Bn prom 2/Lt 4-17 WIA 7-6-17 thigh & wrist at Messines WIA 28-3-18 minor at Dernencourt PoW 5-4-18 in counter attack by 13 Bde at Dernancourt reported MIA F&B N/R Ironmonger 22 Young NSW 16-12-14 RTA 1-12-18

STEWART Thomas Campbell 799 Pte 02 LHR 3R (G) to 47Bn WIA 12-10-17 face & arm at Passchendaele F&B disch 9-10-18 MU N/R Station hand 25 Longreach Qld 16-12-14 RTA 31-1-18

STOREY George Percival 572 Pte 05 LHR C Sqn to 2/Lt CCo/46Bn MC to 47Bn F&B N/R Bookkeeper 22 Brisbane Qld 5-11-14 RTA 22-8-19

STRANG John Thomson Fletcher 608 Pte 05 LHR C Sqn relist Cpl DCo/47Bn F&B killed at Messines NKG listed on The Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Belgium N/R Labourer 19 Square Top Qld 7-11-14 RTA 5-9-15 KIA 7-6-17

STUART Coulson Douglas 892 Pte 02 LHR 4R to A Sqn (G) to 47Bn 9-16 WIA 2-5-18 "S" gas at Dernancourt to 45Bn 8-18 WIA 8-9-18 back & arm accident F&B married in UK 8 IR Labourer 19 Brisbane Qld 21-12-14 RTA 9-7-19

STUBBS Eric Charles 1383 Pte 05 LHR 11R to Cpl 47Bn F&B to Cpl A Troop C Sqn N/R Overseer 28 Brisbane Qld 30-7-15 RTA 28-6-19

VARCOE William Gordon 1951 Pte 01 LHR 13R to 4 Pnr Bn to 47Bn WIA 7-6-17 thigh & back WIA 5-4-18 thigh in counter attack by 13 Bde at Dernancourt WIA 20-9-18 buttocks to 45Bn F&B 7 LH Driver 27 Hillston NSW 27-10-15 RTA 13-12-18

WADE William 2600 Pte 4 LHFA A Sect Cook to 1 AGH 12-15 to 47Bn 3-17 att batman HQ 2 Anzac Corps 4-17 F&B disch 25-4-18 MU N/R Butcher 30 Adelaide SA 8-2-15 RTA 30-1-18

WEST Wilmot Ernest 3204 Pte 15Bn 10R Tos 2-16 to 47Bn 3-16 WIA 9-8-16 R/leg & thigh at Pozieres F&B killed at Messines NKG listed on The Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial Belgium (CMF 2 years) 26 LH Farmer 20 Westbury Tas 4-8-15 KIA 7-6-17

WILDHABER John George 325 A/Cpl 05 LHR B Sqn to Cpl 6-15 (G) to L/Sgt 47Bn 11-16 WIA 2-1-18 burn R/thigh accident near Peronne F&B (QVR CMF 2 years) CMF Station overseer 25 Sth Brisbane Qld 28-10-14 RTA 9-12-18

WILLIAMS Allan Herbert 691 Pte 05 LHR 1R to 47Bn F&B N/R Labourer 22 Grafton NSW 7-12-14 RTA 20-11-18

WILSON Montague 91 L/Cpl 05 LHR B Sqn to Sgt 47Bn F&B N/R stockman 31 Sth Brisbane Qld 24-9-14 RTA 24-9-18

Cheers

S.B

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cdeayton

I think you've outdone me on these men Steve, but if I come up with anything, I'll post it.

Best wishes

Craig

Peter,

Sorry not in particular but any bio detail on these men is always welcome.

Cheers

S.B

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Guest MarkN

Hi Craig

I've yet to reach my quota of five posts, so I cannot use the PM system as yet.

My interest in the inter-battalion boundary related to the 47th and both the 46/48th in early April 1918, particularly for the main attack on the 3rd and for the hand over between the 46th and 48th.

Looking at the different war-diary maps, the skectches in Bean's Chapter 12 there seems to be some varations also the comments in "Backs to the Wall" are an interesting perspective, hence the question about the accuracy and responsibility.

I'm still interested in any comments you or others have on the topic in general and, of course, what you say in your book.

Do you have an availability date as yet?

thanks

Mark

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Hello All

Just a quick note.

Im off to Mesen (Messine) Begium to visit the ridge and cemetery of my great grandfather. If there is anyone who would like a photo of a relatives grave then I would be more than happy to take one then post on forum or email to you. Just a thought, chances are I will take photos of all 47th graves I see whilst over there.

Im off on the 21st for three days then back to blighty.

Take care all

Stuart

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rksimpson

Hi Petrut

You probably mean FAB

From AWM - FAB -Field Artillery Brigade

regards

Robert

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Hi Robert

Thanks for your reply but I got F & B from the post above where it gives the names of 47th men who were also LH. F & B appears in the bio of quite a few of them.

Regards

Peter

Hi Petrut

You probably mean FAB

From AWM - FAB -Field Artillery Brigade

regards

Robert

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Hi Stuart

You could stop and say a G'day to each of them you come across.

All the best for a good trip

Regards

petrut

Hello All

Just a quick note.

Im off to Mesen (Messine) Begium to visit the ridge and cemetery of my great grandfather. If there is anyone who would like a photo of a relatives grave then I would be more than happy to take one then post on forum or email to you. Just a thought, chances are I will take photos of all 47th graves I see whilst over there.

Im off on the 21st for three days then back to blighty.

Take care all

Stuart

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stevebecker

Mate,

Because I deal with men from the LH who served in Egypt and Palestine I had to note those who also served in France and Belgium (F&B) and (G) Gallipoli)

Cheers

S.B

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dongough

HI all

Has this book previously discussed in this topic been released & where could it be purchased?

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HI all

Has this book previously discussed in this topic been released & where could it be purchased?

Google - Battle Scarred: The 47th Battalion in the First World War by Craig Deayton.

JP

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Joanne Klein
On 30/10/2009 at 23:43, Guest MarkN said:

Hello All

Yet another 47th descendant.

My grandfather was 2482 Arthur Needham, a Lewis gunner. He enlisted on 13 Jan 1916 as part of the 5th reinforcements, wounded on 3 April 1918 at Dernancourt and evacuated to England. I found a photo of him (and others of the 47th) in the "Queenslander" published on 9 December 1916 just after they left Australia for England.

A question that others may be able to answer, is the relevance of the accuracy of the inter-battalion boundary between the 47th and other battalions shown on war diary maps.

Is it likely any difference is just an error on the particular map or are the maps just a guide anyway and the "boundary" determined by the actual trench or feature location? Any comments on how the responsibility was determined for defending the front line adjoining the inter-battalion boundary?

Also keen to get on the mailing list for any future books/history's to be published.

Mark

NEEDHAM Arthur 2482 (CHARTERS TOWERS) Charters Towers, Queensland 47th Battalion, 5th Reinforcement -Arthur NEEDHAM. Charters Towers Historical Photo Club.
 

 

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Michelle Young

Welcome to the forum Joanne. Unfortunately, MarkN is no longer a member of the forum as denoted by guest. We won't hold any contact details for him.

Michelle

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Joanne Klein
17 minutes ago, Michelle Young said:

Welcome to the forum Joanne. Unfortunately, MarkN is no longer a member of the forum as denoted by guest. We won't hold any contact details for him.

Michelle

Thanks  Michelle.

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I own and run Charters Towers Historical Photo Club (Queensland) on fb. If anyone has/needs photos/info on WW1 Charters Towers & Districts from the 47th Bn please contact me. Looking for relatives of Soldiers include: 

 

47TH BATTALION (CHARTERS TOWERS)

47th Battalion, 4th Reinforcement 🤠2148 CLEMO, James Radford Charters Towers, Queensland 🤠2158 DWYER, Michael John Prairie, Queensland 🤠2167 FARRAHER, William John Charters Towers, Queensland 🤠2281 GRANT, Sydney Hugh Delmar Ravenswood, Queensland 🤠2175 GREENWAY, Henry Charters Towers, Queensland 🤠2198 LUKE, Arthur Charters Towers, Queensland 🤠2299 O'CONNOR, Arthur William Charters Towers, Queensland 🤠2295 RANDALL, Harold Charters Towers, Queensland 🤠2255 SMETHERAM, Frederick Charles Charters Towers, Queensland 🤠2253 SQUIRE, James Lane Ravenswood, Queensland 🤠2252 SQUIRE, James Rogers Ravenswood, Queensland 🤠2254 STAUNTON, Matthew Bede Charters Towers, Queensland 🤠2246 SUHLE, Harry Kidston, Queensland 🤠2247 SUHLE, Percy Kidston, Queensland 🤠2262 TREVASKIS, Frederick Charters Towers, Queensland 🤠2278 WOOD, Samuel, Charters Towers, Queensland.

 

47th Battalion, 2nd Reinforcements

HATFIELD Ernest Hugh 1663

STAMPER Matthew 1733 

ALEXANDER Francis 5800

YOUNG Walter Russell 1759

VERRAN William John 1749 

SHEPHERDSON Albert Edward 1740

FINGER Frank Henry 1819

PENNELL Edward John 1719

WILSON John 1755

WOOD Archibald Vivian 1751

ROONAN John Edward 1725

CECINI James Felix 1641

FELLOWS George Thomas 1651

MOORE William Matthew 1686

SILLS Reginald William 1735

SKELTON Thomas 1736

 

 

47th Battalion, 5th Reinforcements

MOSS Benjamin 2471

NICHOLSON Ernest (MM) 2483

TOY, James Henry 2512

AHERN Francis Daniel (MM) 2382 

JUDASCHEFSKI William Charles 2457 

CASTORI Leone 2407

BOURKE William Francis 2397

KING William Frank 2463

LOSBERG Bernard 2531

RUFFIN Walter Joseph 2376

WILSON Albert Robert 2515 

WRIGHT Charles Henry 2521

     

47th Battalion, 9th Reinforcements 

BIRT Sidney Harold 262 

MOLLOY John Patrick 3384

WILKINSON John Francis 3426

MOLLOY John Patrick 3384 

Conway Joseph Henry 3506

 

47th Battalion, 10th Reinforcement

EMMERSON William Daniel 3621 

 

TRANSFERRED IN TO 47th Battalion

BRAGG John Robert 4132 15th Battalion, 13th Reinforcement > 47th Battalion

FENTON George Samuel 2854 15th Battalion, 9th Reinforcement > 47th Battalion

 

Thanks Joanne Klein CTHPC

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ADDING SOLDIERS FROM CT

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17107BM

Hello all.

How I have missed this thread is a mystery to me! 

In this photo you will see the Grandson of Captain John Millar. His image on page 137 of The book 'Battle Scarred.  on the left of this image provided is the Grandson of Capt Millar. On the right is the Grandson of John Patrick Keenan 2668 A.I.F. Mentioned on page 183 of the same book. We met at the Battle of Messines Ceremony quite by chance, and linked up in London the following year. 

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