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Remembered Today:

Famous Titanic Photo: newsvendor Ned Parfett kia 1918


domwalsh

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1 hour ago, NigelS said:

 

Indeed. Thanks for putting the article up Dominic. Your article also went down well with a former Times, now freelance & local  journalist (Stuart Flitton) who  commented enthusiastically ''A terrific piece of journalism" in his newspaper review on BBC Surrey Radio on Saturday (3rd Nov)  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p06p4y3x  (at appx 2:21:48)

 

NigelS

Thanks Nigel. Appreciate you alerting me to this.D

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A fitting tribute!!

Well done!

 

M.

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16 hours ago, Neil Mackenzie said:

Well done Dom, a very fitting tribute to Ned.

 

Neil

Thanks Neil

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  • 4 years later...

Remembering my great uncle Ned - the Titanic newsboy - who died just a few days before the Armistice. Remembered with pride

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  • 4 weeks later...

One of my favourite topics on the Forum - hard to believe it started over 15 years ago.

RIP Ned.

 

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15 years indeed... 

I now noted somewhere in a corner of one of my notebooks that Verchain should be on my next cemetery-tour... whenever that may be... 

M.

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As a post-script to that iconic photo this is an interesting and very personal, thread - thanks for posting Dom.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/320381/edward-john-parfett

The sad aftermath to Ned's death is now further revealed in the relatively recently made available Ministry of Pension records at WFA/Fold3 - two linked pension index cards.

This is the more informative PIC:

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Image thanks to WFA/Fold3

Gnr. Edward John PARFETT, 128981, Royal Field Artillery

His mother, Honora PARFETT [CWGC have Honorah] received a dependant's pension of 10/-pw from 27.5.19 under Article 21 1a of the 1918 Royal Warrant - and then the pension continued to his father, George PARFETT, from early 1935.

The reverse shows Awards File Destroyed, 10-8-66 [after its use was finally over - presumably sometime after the death of George]

RIP :poppy:

M

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40 minutes ago, Matlock1418 said:

As a post-script to that iconic photo this is an interesting and very personal, thread - thanks for posting Dom.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/320381/edward-john-parfett

The sad aftermath to Ned's death is now further revealed in the relatively recently made available Ministry of Pension records at WFA/Fold3 - two linked pension index cards.

This is the more informative PIC:

image.png.6623835900515b9305d63a6c810d4c78.png

Image thanks to WFA/Fold3

Gnr. Edward John PARFETT, 128981, Royal Field Artillery

His mother, Honora PARFETT [CWGC have Honorah] received a dependant's pension of 10/-pw from 27.5.19 under Article 21 1a of the 1918 Royal Warrant - and then the pension continued to his father, George PARFETT, from early 1935.

The reverse shows Awards File Destroyed, 10-8-66 [after its use was finally over - presumably sometime after the death of George]

RIP :poppy:

M

Wow. Just when you think you've exhausted every research avenue! Thank you so much. Is it possible to get a copy of the other sheet? I'd be very grateful.

Cheers

Dom

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Along with some adjacent streets running off from Cornwall Road, and comprising a block of land belonging to the Archbishop of Canterbury Church Commissioners (ACCC), the Ethelm Street houses, where the Parfett family lived, were demolished and replaced by contemporary flats in 1939.

The enclosed photos show how the original streets looked just before demolition, but I dread to think what the insides must have been like, as the 1939 improved living looks desperately primitive when viewed today.  Eventually abandoned and derelict, there was a fire in empty adjacent offices in 2009 and once again the block was subsequently demolished and redeveloped after being sold by the ACCC.  See: https://boroughphotos.org/lambeth/category/date/1926-1950/page/25/

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24 minutes ago, domwalsh said:

Wow. Just when you think you've exhausted every research avenue! Thank you so much. Is it possible to get a copy of the other sheet? I'd be very grateful.

Pleased you like the pension info - the second card is much less interesting/revealing once you have seen the first having been created after Honora's death, nominating George to continue with the dependant's pension with the same 11/D/98817 reference [Region 11 for SE England incl.London/Dependant's/claim number - printer's mark of 2/34 supporting the 1935 claim continuation - same address - reverse also shows Award file Destroyed 10-8-66]

Both cards are available from WFA & Fold3 through subscription

Here's the search link https://www.fold3.com/search?docQuery=(filters:!((type:general.title.id,values:!((label:'UK,+WWI+Pension+Ledgers+and+Index+Cards,+1914-1923',value:'1019')))),keywords:'parfett,128981',sortOrder:ALPHABETICAL)

Once logged into a site like WFA https://www.westernfrontassociation.com [membership highly recommended] follow the links

Leading to first card [as above] https://www.fold3.com/image/669376646?filmstrip=true&terms=edward,john,parfett

Leading to second card https://www.fold3.com/image/691209338?filmstrip=true&terms=edward,john,parfett 

M

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38 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said:

Along with some adjacent streets running off from Cornwall Road, and comprising a block of land belonging to the Archbishop of Canterbury Church Commissioners (ACCC), the Ethelm Street houses, where the Parfetts lived, were demolished and replaced by contemporary flats in 1939.

The enclosed photos show how the original streets looked just before demolition, but I dread to think what the insides must have been like as the 1939 improved living looks desperately primitive when viewed today.  Eventually abandoned and derelict there was a fire in empty adjacent offices in 2009 and once again the block was demolished and redeveloped after being sold by the ACCC.  See: https://boroughphotos.org/lambeth/category/date/1926-1950/page/25/

7A27212F-A64D-46D3-B5F9-C60F80481B52.jpeg

DE132FFE-0189-4FEF-B452-44E03D782E43.jpeg

That's amazing. Thank you so much.

12 minutes ago, Matlock1418 said:

Pleased you like the pension info - the second card is much less interesting/revealing once you have seen the first having been created after Honora's death, nominating George to continue with the dependant's pension with the same 11/D/98817 reference [Region 11 for SE England incl.London/Dependant's/claim number - printer's mark of 2/34 supporting the 1935 claim continuation - same address - reverse also shows Award file Destroyed 10-8-66]

Both cards are available from WFA & Fold3 through subscription

Here's the search link https://www.fold3.com/search?docQuery=(filters:!((type:general.title.id,values:!((label:'UK,+WWI+Pension+Ledgers+and+Index+Cards,+1914-1923',value:'1019')))),keywords:'parfett,128981',sortOrder:ALPHABETICAL)

Once logged into a site like WFA https://www.westernfrontassociation.com [membership highly recommended] follow the links

Leading to first card [as above] https://www.fold3.com/image/669376646?filmstrip=true&terms=edward,john,parfett

Leading to second card https://www.fold3.com/image/691209338?filmstrip=true&terms=edward,john,parfett 

M

Thanks Matlock. Might have to look into Fold3. Appreciate your help.

Dom

 

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1 hour ago, domwalsh said:

That's amazing. Thank you so much.

It was interesting to see where the family lived, and life must have been tough.  A few doors along from the family home was the street’s own public house, called the Cathedral.  It too was demolished in 1939, but I imagine that some family members will have enjoyed a pint in there.  Sadly it is among the ‘lost pubs of London’ (a historic endeavour to try and record all those lost), but sadly so far no image of the premises has been traced.  The local people were relatively poor so I doubt that many of them had a camera back then, but the pub would have been a social hub for those working men who were not abstainers.

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  • 3 months later...

Charles Haas, president of the Titanic International Society,  has not only written a fine article about Ned. He has also discovered another photo of Ned selling papers about the sinking of the Titanic, taken from a different angle. Amazing work, Charlie 

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I'm trying to find some genealogical/family details on my great uncle Ned's good friend 54206 Cpl Ernest H. Bufton RAMC, as I'd like to contact his family. I have his medal card plus the page from the RAMC roll of BWM and Victory Medals (he also got a 14-15 Star), but that's about it.

Can anyone help?

Thanks.

Dom

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Dom

I think you would be better off with a new thread for Cpl Bufton, as this is at the end of a very long unrelated thread and it is likely to get lost

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1 hour ago, corisande said:

Dom

I think you would be better off with a new thread for Cpl Bufton, as this is at the end of a very long unrelated thread and it is likely to get lost

Yes, I think you're right. Good thinking 

D

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