Anthony Bagshaw Posted 16 December , 2006 Share Posted 16 December , 2006 I have mentioned this name to the forum before. I still cannot identify this man. I am at the end of my tether as i cannot find a reference to him anywhere!! I have checked the usual places, local papers, census (although there is a Leonard Bocking in the 1891 close to my area), MIC's, CWGC and Soldiers Died. I NEED HELP, PLEASE!! It is driving me crazy. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted 16 December , 2006 Share Posted 16 December , 2006 Just prehaps the engravers got the christian name wrong? So how about http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...?casualty=41970 a slightly late saterday night guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunners dream Posted 16 December , 2006 Share Posted 16 December , 2006 The problem you have is there are 63 Bockings on the NA site: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...Spec=Score+desc Could this be a miss-spell such as Docking? There is a Leonard Docking on the NA site: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...;resultcount=51 Although he's not listed as having been killed. But there is this chap: Name: DOCKING, BERTIE LEONARD Initials: B L Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Middlesex Regiment Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Age: 20 Date of Death: 01/11/1920 Service No: 6192251 Additional information: Son of Alfred William and Bessy Maria Docking, of 191, Essex St., Norwich. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: G. 95. Cemetery: ALEXANDRIA (CHATBY) MILITARY AND WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christine liava'a Posted 16 December , 2006 Share Posted 16 December , 2006 There was a London policeman Leonard Bocking who received a George Medal in 1954 http://www.historybytheyard.co.uk/gallantr...t_1946-1954.htm Bocking Leonard Geoffrey 1954 George Medal PC With PC George Sinclair. For outstanding courage and tenacity in attempting to arrest an armed murderer in Clifton Gardens, Maida Vale. Probably not your man, but maybe a connection. You can contact them for more information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bagshaw Posted 16 December , 2006 Author Share Posted 16 December , 2006 All, Thanks for your replies so far. I never thought that the surname could be spelt wrong!! I'm not sure it is the Leonard Docking found as Norwich is a long long way from Notts! Enitirely possible though i suppose! Just done a quick search on SDGW surname ending ocking and came up with this lad: Name: HOCKING, JOSEPH Initials: J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Royal Warwickshire Regiment Unit Text: 10th Bn. Age: 21 Date of Death: 17/04/1918 Service No: 27551 Additional information: Son of the late William Richard Hocking, of 16, Longden Terrace, Stanton Hill, Mansfield, Notts. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 23 to 28 and 163A. Memorial: TYNE COT MEMORIAL Maybe, just maybe................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Hesketh Posted 17 December , 2006 Share Posted 17 December , 2006 Highly unlikely, but just in case...... Name: HOCKING, LEONARD VICKORY Initials: L V Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: The Buffs (East Kent Regiment) Unit Text: 7th Bn. Age: 19 Date of Death: 03/05/1917 Service No: G/20002 Additional information: Son of James and Annie Hocking, of Alexandra House, Clovelly Rd., Bideford, Devon. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 2. Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL Name: COCKINGS, LEONARD Initials: L Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Lance Corporal Regiment/Service: Northamptonshire Regiment Unit Text: "C" Coy. 1st Bn. Secondary Regiment: Royal Dublin Fusiliers Secondary Unit Text: attd. 1st Bn. Age: 21 Date of Death: 31/05/1917 Service No: 200622 Additional information: Son of Mrs. Mary Young (formerly Cockings), of I, Dell Place, Park Rd., Rushden, Northants. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 7. Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted 17 December , 2006 Share Posted 17 December , 2006 Still think now alcohol free that my Bernard is a possible. But anyway it would not be the first mistake in wartime records. Is Stafford anywhere near mansfeild? http://www.1901censusonline.com/results.as...i=person_search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bagshaw Posted 17 December , 2006 Author Share Posted 17 December , 2006 Andrew, Thanks for those 2, they are possibles i suppose! Still think now alcohol free that my Bernard is a possible. But anyway it would not be the first mistake in wartime records. Is Stafford anywhere near mansfeild? It's a not too far away, not sure of the mileage. Will have a look into this one. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bagshaw Posted 28 January , 2007 Author Share Posted 28 January , 2007 Bringing this back to the surface, as still no where near getting him identified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 28 January , 2007 Share Posted 28 January , 2007 How about: Birth : Leonard Bockin 1883 Oct-Nov-Dec Grantham (1837-1933) Leicestershire, Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 456 Marriage : Leonard Bockin 1904 Apr-May-Jun Mansfield Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 165 1891 Census Name: Leonard Bockin Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation: Son Father's name: John Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Bottesford, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Bottesford Ecclesiastical parish: Bottesford Town: Bottesford County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: 14 Chapel Street. Registration district: Grantham Sub-registration district: Grantham South ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Household Members: Name Age Ada M Bockin 10 Edith Bockin 3 Elizabeth Bockin 47 Grace Bockin 5 John Bockin 46 Leonard Bockin 7 Robert I Bockin 13 1901 Census Name: Leonard Bockin Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation: Son Father's name: John Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Bottesford, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Bottesford Ecclesiastical parish: Bottesford St Mary Town: Bottesford County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: 10 Belvoir Road. Occupation: Railway Porter Registration district: Grantham Sub-registration district: Grantham South ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 204 Household Members: Name Age Edith Bockin 13 Elizabeth Bockin 57 John Bockin 56 Leonard Bockin 17 Robert J Bockin 24 The entries on the Marriage register page: Leonard Bockin 1904 Apr-May-Jun Mansfield Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Sarah Ann Clarke 1904 Apr-May-Jun Mansfield Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire George Henry Hayes 1904 Apr-May-Jun Mansfield Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Grace Annie Lancashire 1904 Apr-May-Jun Mansfield Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Surely him, but now the Military Connection ???? Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bagshaw Posted 28 January , 2007 Author Share Posted 28 January , 2007 Steve, You are a legend, got to be him. Have searched CWGC without the G on the end but still nothing. Now need to find his military service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Upton Posted 28 January , 2007 Share Posted 28 January , 2007 I have mentioned this name to the forum before. I still cannot identify this man. I am at the end of my tether as i cannot find a reference to him anywhere!! I have checked the usual places, local papers, census (although there is a Leonard Bocking in the 1891 close to my area), MIC's, CWGC and Soldiers Died. I NEED HELP, PLEASE!! It is driving me crazy. Cheers Found a Bernard Bocking on the CWGC: http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...?casualty=41970 Bernard - Leonard - not too great a leap of the imagination to see two mis-spelled letters creating a new first name - just a possibility... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 28 January , 2007 Share Posted 28 January , 2007 Never forget that just because the name is on a memorial it is also on the CWGC lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 28 January , 2007 Share Posted 28 January , 2007 Anthony A Charles L Bockin: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=5 Perhaps? May be? Regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 28 January , 2007 Share Posted 28 January , 2007 No entry in Du Ruvigny's. Can't locate him on the Times Casualty Lists. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bagshaw Posted 28 January , 2007 Author Share Posted 28 January , 2007 Mel, Cheers saw him earlier, however no Bockin on CWGC. Steve, Cheers for looking, now where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 28 January , 2007 Share Posted 28 January , 2007 Anthony I agree with the cautionary note of welshdoc that you should not always expect a CWGC entry. As with the Sgt William North of the Leics thread posted today, there is an example of someone who died during the war after discharge with a disease (pulmonary TB perhaps contracted during service) but no CWGC entry. How about a trawl for the death certificate of the Leonard that stebie magnificently identified? Worth a punt if only to preserve your sanity and hair regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bagshaw Posted 28 January , 2007 Author Share Posted 28 January , 2007 Mel, Thanks for the advice. I have been thinking that he is a non commemoration. I have had a look and cannot put a date of death in the search because i don't have one, i don't have country registered in and do not have an age Is there anyone who looks for death certs regularly who could have a quick look for me, i seem to be missing something here! Many Thanks for help with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apwright Posted 28 January , 2007 Share Posted 28 January , 2007 To save others the bother, I've looked through the BMD deaths registers up to the end of 1929 and not found him yet. His older brother Robert J[ohn] Bockin died in Nottingham in Q4 1927 at age 50. There's a Leonard BockinG that died in Stockport in Q1 1929 but the age does not fit - this one was 67. Regards, Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bagshaw Posted 28 January , 2007 Author Share Posted 28 January , 2007 Adrian, Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 28 January , 2007 Share Posted 28 January , 2007 Adrian I wished I had seen your post before I did my trawl I did 1914-19 and only came up with one Bockin - Ada who died in the second quarter of 1918 aged 51. Wrong age and gender! regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bagshaw Posted 29 January , 2007 Author Share Posted 29 January , 2007 Mel, Received your PM thanks. He could have been anything i really don't know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 29 January , 2007 Share Posted 29 January , 2007 Where next? Bottesford, perhaps? Could he have been better recorded (if at all) on his birthplace's memorial? Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bagshaw Posted 29 January , 2007 Author Share Posted 29 January , 2007 Steve, Thanks mate. I know he had to have been killed or died before June 1923, the Memorial was unveiled then. They didn't start discussing the war memorial being built until 1922. This is so frustrating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bagshaw Posted 4 March , 2007 Author Share Posted 4 March , 2007 Steve, Bottesford, Leics and Lincs have both come up Negative. I'm starting to think that this chap is an alias or used an alias that has never been discovered I don't think that i'm ever going to find out who he could be. Shame, because it looks as though you have found him below. I have also had a walk around the 2 cemeteries here reading headstones for a private memorial but not a sausage. Next step, where?? This is so frustrating. You were so close!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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