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I was given this cutting from a local paper (I guess its from mid-1915 - mentions Dardanelles), a friend of my parents is linked to the family so they asked me to have a look at it and see what info I could add, I have made some notes below (based on the article, likely MIC's, the booklet about Wishaw and Cambusnethan during WW1, CWGC, Soldiers Died) - hopefully some members can add thoughts or comments.

Ta

Alistair

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Sgt John Hill

Scots Guards, at front since outbreak, so I assume 1st Battalion

MIC Probably - Henry John Hill, 2405, Sgt, Scots Guards

Pte William Hill

8th HLI - ties in with coastal defence role

Wishaw and Cambusnethan book has him as HLI

MIC – William Hills 3300699, 30065, 241878, 29092, 22204, 18126, 6162

He is mentioned as a territorial I would guess early war, low number 6162

Pte Fred Hill

Wishaw and Cambusnethan book has him as Royal Scots and Killed in Action (I can only guess the book has mixed up him and Francis)

MIC – F Hill 23312, Fred Hills 7890 (HLI)/ 302157 (RS’s)

I am guessing at the HLI/RS one as he joined the Territorials on the decleration of war and Cameronians or HLI were the 2 local units, plus with several brothers in the HLI it would seem a likely choice

Pte Francis Hill

Article 1st HLI

Cambusnethan Landward Memorial in Newmains has Francis Hill (not listed as KIA, see above possibly mixed up with Fred)

Wishaw and Cambusnethan book has him as HLI

MIC – 8749, Frank, Private, HLI

CWGC – 1st HLI, KIA 18/1/17, Basra Memorial

Pte Charles Hill

Article RSF

Cambusnethan Landward Memorial in Newmains has Charles Hill

MIC – 12248, Charles, Private, RSF

CWGC – 6th RSF, KIA 25/9/15, Loos Memorial

Pte Elie Hill

Article 2nd HLI

Wishaw and Cambusnethan book has him as HLI

MIC – 12124, Elie J, Private/Corporal, HLI

Pte Robert Armstrong

Article Cameronians

Wishaw and Cambusnethan book has him as Scottish Rifles twice wounded

MIC – Roberts Armstrongs 19691, 34615, 20935, 16112, 10885, 10721, 8355

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Guest pearl 1

hi

i am intriged by this article as i am researching my family tree and i have this exact copy and the details that you have found out with me now. My grandmother was William Hilll daughter my uncle has been desperate to find out our tree and a member of his church Cambusnethan Old Parish sent this to him after seemingly having found it when clearing an

old relatives house. Her name is Watt and we know there is some sort of connection but not how. I coulnt believe it when i typed in Wishaw & Cambusnethan book and your listing came up first. We have also found an article written 2 years later in 1917 by wishaw press and this gives details of Charles and Francis being killed it also gives details of others.

one brother not mentioned in original 1915 article was Joseph Edwin Hill who was based in Germany (on his marriage Cert) as a gunner in the RLAI ? im not upto speed on regiments as in the family after having 7 in ww1 on our side we have not sent anymore to fight. I wondered if the person who asked you to look into this article was on the armstrong side or the hill i have looked into the family and am now through this looking at the army history. hope you can give me some help

Pearl Dick (Carluke)


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Great article Alistair.

My maternal grandfather was from Newmains, I'll speak to my mother and see if she remembers the family.

Is the Wishaw and Cambusnethan booklet available anywhere? If not could you have a look for James S. Clark RAMC 64272. I'm struggling to find a unit for him.

Thanks.

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H T B.

There was a booklet printed in June of 1919 Peace Souvenir Roll of Honour of Wishaw and Cambusnethan "Parish" (Not Village) the area covered was Craigneuk, Netherton, Wishaw Waterloo,, Overtown, Gillhead, Bogside, Canmbusnethan, Newmains,Bonkle, Allanton Chapel Morningside Castlehill,Coltness,and Wishaw Estates. It was reprinted and I have somewhere in this tip I call an office I have a copy,I will try and find it and post more details on it, but it only gives name and address.

Cheers Rob.

Cambusnethan Boy!!!

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H T B.

I found the Booklet there is a James Clark 45 Anderson St. Cambusnethan RAMC, he was single and survived the war.

Cheers Rob.

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I'm sure that is him, but I'll check with my mother. He had a couple of brothers, any other Clarks at that address? I think there was Dick in the HLI.

Thanks.

Alistair, sorry for derailing your thread.

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Hello Alistair

First of all my apologies to for hijacking your thread, it is so very seldom that my old home town is mentioned on the forum that I could not help joining in, even though it had nothing to do with the original thread which was great by the way!!

H D B.

Yes there is another "CLARK" at same address. Robert Clark ASC. 45 Anderson Street. Cambusnethan. Single, survived the war.

Cheers Rob.

"Old Greenfield St. Boy"

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As no one else has mentioned it: John Hill's RMA record should be in ADM 159 at Kew.

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