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ASC the lowly ones


chaz

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With recent talk about erasing medals it was noticeable at Yate today.

ASC medals are being 'knocked out' cheap, for someone who served and provided a service to others it does not seem fair that they shouldnt be thought as much of.

Still, I suppose its a cheap way for 'young uns' to get into medal collecting.

todays examples..

I bought a 14 start trio to Wilts regt £180, a 14-15 start trio also to Wilts for £75 both privates, on an equal footing a private in the ASC, 1914 star trio only commands £100, you could have probably got it for £80 and it came with ribbon bar with rosette all original ribbons.

ASC singles going around £8 for victory upto £14 for a star. doubles topping £30. and not much more for the 14-15 trio.

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Interesting point. It also goes with RFA groups. They are cheaper but in my mind equally interesting. Harder to research I suppose keeps the price down. Where was the Yate fair, which part of the UK? Excuse my ignorance.

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I can understand that. corps are far more difficult to research and not a fighting unit. RA RFA RGA prices are going up though.

Mick

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Yes but in the eyes of many collectors some did more of a bit than others.

mick

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Hi Donnie, no just Poole and Hallett.

Your Mr Creed didnt do very well did he? embarked 12-7-1915 KIA 23-7-1915!

Mr Trotter, Yate is just off the M4 between Bath and Bristol towards Cirencester. next one there 4th Feb, Aldershot 14th Jan and Stratford U Avon 11th March.

even some of the RE medals are reasonable as well.

While at one stand, an elderly couple came along with around 8-10 medals and odd ribbons in a polythene bag, a plaque in wax box, couple of efficiancy medals ww1 BWMs & Vics, none tied up apart from being various family members £100 for the lot, obviously the family didnt want or the couple didnt think of asking other members if they wanted!! shame.

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Yeh i spose,

but i bought a 14 star and bar of the 1st wilts for the going rate, when i did a bit of research i found out that he joined up in 1903, but when war came and he went to F and F he was there for 15 days and dicharged for having fits.

this star would cost far more than one of the corps and the man of the corps could have gone through the whole war, it just seems strange to me even though i am a collector.

casualty groups, trios and singles are another thing that leaves me open mouthed.

a man that went through hell the whole war, maybe even have been wounded, will cost less than a young lad that the previous day got to the trenches and been shot by a sniper.

not meaning to have a go :lol:

donnie

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that bag for £100 sounded interesting - plaque could be worth half that

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Chaz the story of my great uncle creed is a bit of a sad one, he was only 18 and was killed by a stray turkish shell along with 3 others. what a way to go.

Donnie

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Im always wary of old ladies carrying bags of bits. A few years ago old lady went into a well known jewellery/pawn shop in Darlington with some jewellery and couple of medals. He immediately noticed one of the medals was a waterloo medal and without further ado or discussion he offered 50 quid (i didnt say he was a particularly honest man) for the lot. she asked if she could think about and went for a cuppa. she came back an hour later, he handed over the dosh and off she went. when he took the medals out of the bag...yes you guessed it she had switched the medal and he was the proud owner of 2 school attendance medals and a lot of cheap junk jewellery.

Mick

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Chums, in 1914 ASC privates were paid 1s 2d per day. Infantry privates were

paid 1s. per day.

Sergeants in ASC 5s 6d....Infantry sergeants 5s per day!

Interesting eh?

Ivan

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Do you think theres any reason for this? if anything shouldnt the infantry have earned more from extra 'danger money'.

Do you know what a Major in the Royal Garrison Artillery would have been earning?

Donnie

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i honestly don't know- but i can tell you that a Major was

allowed an EXTRA 4s a day Field Allowance!(all services)

you need to ask the more knowledgeable guys for any more info.

Cheers, Ivan

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It all comes down to ease of research with ASC / RE / RA i would guess. Your trios to the Wilts you can tie down to a Battalion and research what the battalion was up to. Unfortunately you cant with a Corps man.

Doesnt explain the MGC like.

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Just managed to dig up a little more on this pay issue. ASC men were often very skilled and required desperately. Infantry were paid a shilling a day but some ASC were on as much as 7shillings and sixpence a day and while that was not the norm the remainder appear to have been paid significantly more than the infantry. There's some useful background in Norman Holding's ' More Sources of World War1 Army Ancestry', a really excellent little book and well worth acquiring. It seems the role and significance of the ASC is perhaps not widely understood.

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