jonseagrave Posted 23 November , 2006 Share Posted 23 November , 2006 Hi folks can anyone help identify this belt? I picked it up for a couple of quid and it was labelled 'WW1 HG O/R leather belt'. O/R is presumably 'other ranks', but HG? I can't seem to find one in any WW1 photos; they seem to all be Sam Brownes or have a snake buckle. As you can see, this has a heavy brass interlock clasp, similar to ordinary webbing belts. There are two smaller buckles to the rear for attatching webbing; these are of the familiar square pattern, with a gap in the lower bar. Inside the belt is stamped a broad military goosefoot arrow and '18' (1918?) The brass is a lot duller than in the photo and the belt is obviously very old. But WW1? Any ideas? Sorry no more photos, but I've got no digital camera. Cheers, Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 23 November , 2006 Share Posted 23 November , 2006 The buckles are on upside down. Mick The buckles are on upside down. Mick That was meant to read on wrong side! Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnr.ktrha Posted 23 November , 2006 Share Posted 23 November , 2006 Hello, It's a WW2 belt which was issed to the Home Guard. I'm sure it was also issued to other units until an issue of webbing could be made. I've seen water battles and ammo pouchs of the standared WW2 type made in leather, I think it is 1937 pattern. Regards, Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonseagrave Posted 23 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 23 November , 2006 Well, that clears that one up! Many thanks for the prompt replies. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T8HANTS Posted 23 November , 2006 Share Posted 23 November , 2006 Home gaurd issue, and all that has happened is that the two buckles and the belt have been reassembled wrong, the short end should go inside agaist the body, with the two brass lockets facing out the other way. The two adjuster buckles are correct, with the tongue to center and pointing out from the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 23 November , 2006 Share Posted 23 November , 2006 On the 2 I have, the buckles are not interchangeable with web belts, being slightly to small which suprised me because I originally thought they were a just a make -do set up and the fittings would be taken from existing stocks. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picardowoods Posted 29 November , 2006 Share Posted 29 November , 2006 Hello, It's a WW2 belt which was issed to the Home Guard. I'm sure it was also issued to other units until an issue of webbing could be made. I've seen water battles and ammo pouchs of the standared WW2 type made in leather, I think it is 1937 pattern. Regards, Stewart Hi all Just to clarify the equipment set is pattern 1939 (P'39). While the homeguard certainly had some items, I havn't seen any pic showing a full set in use. For the most part this equipment seems to have been issued to 'Native' troops and those euro troops making up our rapidly expanding armies, and for training. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 2 December , 2006 Share Posted 2 December , 2006 Carl, what does the full set consist of? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picardowoods Posted 18 January , 2007 Share Posted 18 January , 2007 Hi Mick Sorry I missed replying to you. The full set of P'39 was pretty much as for the web P'37, and was made to the same design, using the same brass fittings etc. Belt, basic pouches, cartridge carriers, frog, left & right braces, haversack 'L' straps, pack straps. The pack and haversack were still webbing and the same as issued for P'37. A set of Utility pouches were also made, the main difference being the use of the 'Lewis' pouch yoke rather than the narrower one used on the webb pouches. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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