Patrick H Posted 15 November , 2006 Share Posted 15 November , 2006 I have been asked by an elderly lady to find some information on her father with limited amount to go on ALBERT EDWARD BEASLEY (but also used surname FULLER) It is known he was in the RE and he survived the war. Not much else is known but I will give what info I have Originally a fisherman from Grimsby he became a Waterman on the Thames. In 1901 would have been living in Grimsby. Met and married Sarah Elizabeth Moriaty at the Isle of Dogs East London. Became a Freeman of The Thames, and skippered a boat called the "Southern Lighterage. Worked mostly for a firm called Corys. The family had a picture of him in a "soldiers" uniform and soem dim recollection of him being a Sgt Major but the picture was lost "in the blitz" Could he have been used by the RE on the canals and rivers of France? I have no dates or anything else PLEASE HELP IF YOU CAN my old lady would love to know more about her dad. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERITAGE PLUS Posted 15 November , 2006 Share Posted 15 November , 2006 A possibility? http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=1 Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 15 November , 2006 Share Posted 15 November , 2006 I would agree. I think the HR is mistranscibed and should be WR (Waterways and Railways) Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyspiller Posted 15 November , 2006 Share Posted 15 November , 2006 Hi Patrick With the Freeman thing, maybe the Guildhall Museum or indeed City of London records, their must be his Freemanship recorded somewhere. Try this http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation...eums_galleries/ Rgds Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERITAGE PLUS Posted 15 November , 2006 Share Posted 15 November , 2006 The Cory Company still exists. See: http://www.coryenvironmental.co.uk/about/hist.asp#anchor3 Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 15 November , 2006 Share Posted 15 November , 2006 I would agree. I think the HR is mistranscibed and should be WR (Waterways and Railways) Steve. I would concur, additionally his renumbering to the WR/5***** series suggests (to me at least) that he was Waterways rather than Railways. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Johnson Posted 15 November , 2006 Share Posted 15 November , 2006 Now would that be separate from the Inland Water Transport companies that operated in Mesopotamia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick H Posted 15 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 15 November , 2006 The Cory Company still exists. See: http://www.coryenvironmental.co.uk/about/hist.asp#anchor3 Dave Dave, I cannot find a home page for the company to contact them. Can you help please Thanks Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERITAGE PLUS Posted 15 November , 2006 Share Posted 15 November , 2006 Patrick Here it is; http://www.coryenvironmental.co.uk/home/ Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick H Posted 15 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 15 November , 2006 Many thanks gents for the information so far. My old lady is thrilled to hear we have some information and that he was a "sgt major" Any more information etc would be most welcome Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bramley Posted 15 November , 2006 Share Posted 15 November , 2006 Hello Patrick, There is an Arthur E Beasley recorded on the 1901 census aged 26, a fisherman (3rd Hand), born Grimsby, living in the parish of Clee. This could have been Old Clee, or more likely New Cleethorpes which is now defunct and part of Grimsby. Despite being born in Grimsby he may have had relatives in London, hence his reason for moving back there. In the late 1800's there were many individual trawler company owners. At least 12 of these were from London, most from Barking. There was quite a large fishing fleet based in Barking! For some reason the owners and most of the crews decided to relocate to Grimsby. It could possibly be the building of an 'ice house' in Grimsby combined with the advent of the railways. In Barking the fisherman had to wait for nearby marshland to freeze before they could get their ice! After reading Dave's link to Cory's there may have been another reason for his moving. Lots of Grimsby fishermen got there kit and provisions from the Coal Oil Salt and Tanning company (Cosalt, still in existance) on the docks. Perhaps they did business with Cory's? Wild guesses, but who knows. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick H Posted 16 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 16 November , 2006 Thanks for that Steve, food for thought. My problem is my lttle old lady has no dates at all to go by, which is why I havnt searched the census yet. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 16 November , 2006 Share Posted 16 November , 2006 By the way, he's not listed on the Grimsby AVL. These Beasley's are: BEASLEY, Alfred 15 Hope Street 17536 Pte., R.M. 3rd R.M. Batt. BEASLEY, Arthur Edwin 14 Spencer Street Fisherman BEASLEY, Arthur John 14 Spencer Street 345 Pte., 7th Lincs. Reg. BEASLEY, John William 104 Brereton Avenue H.M. Patrol Carbill BEASLEY, Walter Albert 14 Spencer Street 6072 Trim., R.N.R.T. Zaria Link, BUT BEWARE SHOCKING PINK SCREEN. http://www.angelfire.com/de/delighted/B.html Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 16 November , 2006 Share Posted 16 November , 2006 If his number was in the WR 5000 series, then he was definitely in the IWT. Many Thames lightermen and watermen were recruited by them. Where he actually served is a different matter. He could have served on the Western Front, Salonica, Mesopotamia or in Egypt. A check of his actual medal index card may reveal which theatre. Terry Reeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick H Posted 16 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 16 November , 2006 Thanks Terry I will check on Monday Patrck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick H Posted 22 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2006 The MIC doesnt actually say where he served. Against the entry "Theatre of War" it merely has 1 in a circle. Date of entry into theatre 5.11.15 Vicotry and Star Why would he not have got a trio? Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 22 November , 2006 Share Posted 22 November , 2006 Vicotry and Star Why would he not have got a trio? Patrick I think you'll find he did, there is probably " " (ditto) marks in the BWM section under the Victory Medal Roll reference. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick H Posted 23 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 23 November , 2006 Theres just a wiggly line. Whether or not that means ditto is difficult to say Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 23 November , 2006 Share Posted 23 November , 2006 Theres just a wiggly line. Whether or not that means ditto is difficult to say Patrick That's good enough to confirm that it is. Besides, the Victory Medal wasn't awarded to a soldier without him also getting the British War Medal, if you were awarded the Victory Medal then you also got the BWM. I won't go into qualification details but the same cannot be said of the BWM however which could have been issued without the Victory Medal. However, so as not to confuse the issue this is not the case in this instance. Regards Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltoro1960 Posted 23 November , 2006 Share Posted 23 November , 2006 I may be wrong, but I think the '1' in the circle on the MIC refers to France and Flanders as the Theatre served in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick H Posted 23 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 23 November , 2006 Okay thanks for that Steve. Seems strange though that two medals have a page ref but not the third. John, the family believe he served in France so that would seem to be correct I have had an email back from Corys who are looking into their archives for me so maybe an interesting line of ursual there Thanks Gents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 23 November , 2006 Share Posted 23 November , 2006 Seems strange though that two medals have a page ref but not the third. Patrick You'll find it does, the Victory and British War Medal Roll is a combined roll, the reference shown on the MIC relates to the issue of both medals, hence the ditto, squiggle or whatever listed in the BWM Roll section of the MIC Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick H Posted 5 January , 2007 Author Share Posted 5 January , 2007 just bringing this one back again in the hope that someone may be able to add to the information already got. I had a helpful email from corys who are looking into their archives. However their personell and payroll records do not go back to the Great War years. The email says that Corys raised a whole regiment?? They were D Company 6th The Buffs commonly known as The Corys. I have started a seperate thread on the 6/Buffs Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted 6 January , 2007 Share Posted 6 January , 2007 Patrick There wasn't anyone with that name in the Buffs during WW1. I have Cory's roll of honour which lists all its employees who served up to 1917 and he doesn't appear on that so I doubt whether the company can help you. As with all lists there may be ommissions but I'm pretty sure that he wasn't in D Company of the 6th Buffs Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick H Posted 7 January , 2007 Author Share Posted 7 January , 2007 Hello Mick. I wasnt actually suggesting that he served in the Cory Battalion for reasons shown in the thread. I was just interested in any info on the Battalion. Were they all Cory employees, where did they serve etc Regards Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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