Coldstreamer Posted 12 November , 2006 Share Posted 12 November , 2006 Hello I have this picture. Now it is supposed to be my Great Grandfather - but it looks nothing like the other picture I have of him. So who is this chap ? Picture indicates it was taken 1/7/18 at Schevungen (?) beach and the stamp on the back is an address in Rotterdam. GGdad was on leave 17/9/18- 1/10/18 so cant imagine he got leave in July as well Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted 12 November , 2006 Share Posted 12 November , 2006 He looks a smart Warrant Officer WO2 or CSM (crown on cuff), cap badge not easy could so with close up along with scollar dogs. Cheers, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 12 November , 2006 Share Posted 12 November , 2006 Rob Scheveningen is in Holland,a coastal town north east of The Hague and quite central,so it wasn't as if he had sneaked over the border,accidentally or otherwise, for a quick beer ! Holland was neutral in the Great War so there might be an interesting story there somewhere,what was a uniformed British soldier doing in a neutral country ??? Best wishes Sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltoro1960 Posted 12 November , 2006 Share Posted 12 November , 2006 Agree that he looks a very formidable WO2, wouldn't he have interned in Holland if they got a hold of him though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 12 November , 2006 Share Posted 12 November , 2006 Could he already have been interned in Holland? I know a lot of the RND were, after Antwerp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 13 November , 2006 Share Posted 13 November , 2006 not at all sure its a crown, and, even if it is, he could be a [regimental] sergeant major prior to badge changes 1915. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 13 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 13 November , 2006 well ggdad wasnt interned the plot deepens.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltoro1960 Posted 13 November , 2006 Share Posted 13 November , 2006 A close of the arm chaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nittenman Posted 13 November , 2006 Share Posted 13 November , 2006 Possibly looks like its been taken by a cliff. Are there any in Holland? Scheveningen is on the outskirts of the Hague (if thats the place, of course). My Dutch geography is terrible, for which i apologise. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest themaadone Posted 14 November , 2006 Share Posted 14 November , 2006 There used to be the rank of warrant officer 3 (rd class). But, this looks like class 1 (RSM etc). The reason I say this is because he is wearing an open collar SD jacket and shirt and tie, something reserved for commisioned officers and WO1 rank holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 14 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2006 Possibly looks like its been taken by a cliff. Are there any in Holland? Scheveningen is on the outskirts of the Hague (if thats the place, of course). My Dutch geography is terrible, for which i apologise. Keith It was taken on a beach and I think he is stood on the highest point in Holland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Bennitt Posted 14 November , 2006 Share Posted 14 November , 2006 Could he already have been interned in Holland? I know a lot of the RND were, after Antwerp. If this pic was taken July 1918 and he was interned after Antwerp he's kept his uniform in very good nick for nigh on four years (unless they were allowed to be sent new ones from time to time). I think the Dutch were fairly easy-going (read RND internee Charles Morgan's novel 'The Fountain') but I doubt if they sponsored trips to the seaside. cheers Martin B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grleyland Posted 15 November , 2006 Share Posted 15 November , 2006 From the original picture I would say that the rank badge looks like a "Coat of Arms" and not a crown. This would suggest that he is a WO1. The cap badge does not look like any of the RND badges as it appears to be circular in shape (more like a RE badge). Only a more detailed scan of the image would reveal the detail needed for both the rank and cap badges. I note that he also appears to have a dark coloured medal ribbon on his jacket. By the way the highest point in the Netherlands is just on the Dutch/German/Belgian border just to the south of Brunssum (ie the bottom right corner of Holland). The dutch even have a large tower there to improve the view of three countries at the same time. The angle of the sea relative to the person would suggest some coastal rocks and not a cliff (unless it is a very small cliff). I hope that this helps. Is there any chance of a more detailed scan of the badges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 23 January , 2007 Author Share Posted 23 January , 2007 sorry for not replying - I will try and do a better picture of the badge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchTommy Posted 29 April , 2019 Share Posted 29 April , 2019 On 13/11/2006 at 23:59, nittenman said: Possibly looks like its been taken by a cliff. Are there any in Holland? Scheveningen is on the outskirts of the Hague (if thats the place, of course). My Dutch geography is terrible, for which i apologise. Keith Maybe this is the "cliff" Its a Strandhoofd, a stone construction to hold the sand on the beaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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