stevenbecker Posted 29 October , 2006 Share Posted 29 October , 2006 Mates, I am trying to find where this soldiers was buried or his name placed on a Memorial? James or James Edward Adams Pte 355a DCo/53Bn AIF James was reported KIA 29th March 1917. He with a number of soldiers were in a listening post outside Beaumetz east of Bapaume France, when a shel landed near them mortaly wounding Adams and Lt Albert Edward Cooper. They were buried near the post and the war went on. Now post war Lt Cooper's remains were recovered and now lie in the Lebucquiere Cemetery France but not those of Jim Adams who is not listed on any grave or on any memorial? Is there some reason for this and can you give me where he is? Cheers S.B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 29 October , 2006 Share Posted 29 October , 2006 Jim, no location just remembered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Doneley Posted 29 October , 2006 Share Posted 29 October , 2006 Steve, On the night of the 29th March, 1917 the 53rd Battalion was in the line opposite Doignies, during the advance to follow up the German withdrawal to the Hindenberg Line. That night a shell fell on an outpost, killing Ptes Coe, Grant and Adams. 2/Lt Cooper ran over to help, and was killed by a second shell. There are several accounts of the burial, with some saying that Lt Cooper's body was taken back to be buried, others saying he was buried at the back of the trench, but most indicate he was buried with his men 'near a sunken road along the Cambrai road, near Beaumetz'. As you said, Now post war Lt Cooper's remains were recovered and now lie in the Lebucquiere Cemetery France. The bodies of Coe, Grant and Adams were not recovered, and their names are now commemorated on the Villers Brettoneux memorial. (see http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...sualty=1457329) The Lebucquiere Cemetery: "At the Armistice, the cemetery contained 150 burials, but it was then greatly enlarged when graves were brought in from the surrounding battlefields. The extension now contains 774 Commonwealth burials and commemorations of the First World War. 266 of the burials are unidentified but there are special memorials 20 casualties known or believed to be buried among them and to one soldier buried in Bertincourt German Military Cemetery, whose remains could not be found on concentration." If Lt Cooper was buried with Adams, Coe and Grant, it is possible (probable?) that Adams' body is one of the 266 unidentified bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milner Posted 29 October , 2006 Share Posted 29 October , 2006 I have found Pte. Coe's service records here http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/imagine.as...mp;I=1&SE=1 They list the place of his burial as "Buried side of Cambrai road 800 yrds north of Besumely les Cambrai" makes interesting reading. Regards Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 29 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 29 October , 2006 Mates, Thankyou, for some reason when I entered his name on the CWGC site his name didn't come up and when I did the same on the AWM site it shows no grave or memorial for the man. Glad to see at lest he his on records some where. Yes Bob I have to agree its more then credible that one of the Unknown's is Adams but unless we DNA all of them against relations we may never know? "Known only to God" Sounds about as far were're likely to go. Cheers S.B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordyork Posted 3 February , 2007 Share Posted 3 February , 2007 Mates, I am trying to find where this soldiers was buried or his name placed on a Memorial? James or James Edward Adams Pte 355a DCo/53Bn AIF James was reported KIA 29th March 1917. He with a number of soldiers were in a listening post outside Beaumetz east of Bapaume France, when a shel landed near them mortaly wounding Adams and Lt Albert Edward Cooper. They were buried near the post and the war went on. Now post war Lt Cooper's remains were recovered and now lie in the Lebucquiere Cemetery France but not those of Jim Adams who is not listed on any grave or on any memorial? Is there some reason for this and can you give me where he is? Cheers S.B Interestingly I have James Adams dog tag and soldiers bible, so someone must have found him and given him a dignified burial. any other info would be useful to add to his file,regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Doneley Posted 5 February , 2007 Share Posted 5 February , 2007 Mike, What info have you got; where did you look? Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhclark Posted 5 February , 2007 Share Posted 5 February , 2007 Steve. Here he is from the CWGC site: Name: ADAMS, JAMES Initials: J Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Unit Text: 53rd Bn. Date of Death: 29/03/1917 Service No: 355A Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: .. Memorial: VILLERS-BRETONNEUX MEMORIAL The trick in using the CWGC site is to put in the surname and the initial only. Do not put in the full Christian name. Seems to be some bug in the search engine the site uses. All the best, Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordyork Posted 5 February , 2007 Share Posted 5 February , 2007 Mike, What info have you got; where did you look? Bob ONLY GOT THE CWGC DETAILS AND LIST OF SOLDIERS SERVED IN OZ FORCES, CANNOT FIND HIM ON AUS NAT ARCHIVE SITE AT ALL ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Doneley Posted 7 February , 2007 Share Posted 7 February , 2007 OK, you can find information on 355A Pte James Adams 53 Bn, at: 1) Australian War Memorial website (awm.gov.au) under: * Roll of Honour * Australian Red Cross Wounded and Missing Enquiries Bureau * Embarkation Rolls (under James Adams) (All under Biographical databases) 2) National Australian Archives (www.naa.gov.au) - search in 'Record Search' under 355 Adams Beaucoup information! Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Doneley Posted 7 February , 2007 Share Posted 7 February , 2007 Just had a quick look through his file. His biible is listed under his personal effects returned to his mother; his disc was missing, and inquiries were made as to its whereabouts. Nothing was recorded about its discovery, but it appears you have it? I have an identity disc to a soldier of the 9th Bn AIF that was recovered with his body in 1923 and forwarded to his father 'as a memnto of his son'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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