viva1angel Posted 18 October , 2006 Share Posted 18 October , 2006 Hi there. one of my Friends Pointed me in this Direction in the hope someone here can help me. I have a Photo of my Greatgrandfather in Military Uniform. i do not know what Uniform it is or what regiment he was in. all i know is that is name is Samuel Henry treloar and was born in 1888 in Bootle Cumberland. this is the Picture i have... not a very good Picture as it is a photograph of a photocopy. Can someone give me a helping hand as to where i should be looking for him ? Thanks for any help you can give Emma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted 18 October , 2006 Share Posted 18 October , 2006 Tropical hats and riding boots on the right. If we can have a close upon the collars and the flash on the hat that should help narrow the options. Cheers, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 18 October , 2006 Share Posted 18 October , 2006 Emma - can you confirm his surname is as you spelled it...Treloar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva1angel Posted 18 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 18 October , 2006 Yes.. it is Treloar... will try and Get a cleaner Picture of the Collar and hat this evening... see if i can clean the image up in PSP the One stood up is my G grandfather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva1angel Posted 18 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 18 October , 2006 have tried to get a better quality Picture through Adjusting it on PSP but it doesnt get good enough to see the Collar... i cant get the hat Wording to come up on the screen... Looking at the Photocopy of the photo i have it Looks like it says NCFV or NGFV if that helps at all i dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva1angel Posted 19 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 19 October , 2006 have Phoned My Nan.. she knows nothing about what Army he was in... but i am pretty Sure he came back from the war... according to Nan he dies in 1952-53 ish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Devitt Posted 19 October , 2006 Share Posted 19 October , 2006 Hello Emma, I wonder would this be your man. Description Medal card of Trelor, Samuel J Corps Regiment No Rank Royal Engineers 132317 Sapper Duke of Cornwalls Light Infantry 16811 Sapper Regards, Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva1angel Posted 19 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 19 October , 2006 i dont think he is the one i am after... the Man i am looking for is Samuel H Treloar... thanks for trying for me... a Friend has been looking at uniforms for the Military and Has Found a military unit called the Colour Party which are wearing the Same kind of Uniform as Samuel.... under the picture of the 'colour party' it mentions that the people in the Photograph are in the 1st Battalion Manchester Regiment in Kamptee, India. could this be leading in any kind of the right Direction as to Finding Samuel H Treloars Army Records? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 19 October , 2006 Share Posted 19 October , 2006 I suggest photo is post-1920. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva1angel Posted 19 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 19 October , 2006 Samuel was Born in 1888 so he would have been 32 in 1920 so i think that would seem a good Assumption thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Soul Posted 19 October , 2006 Share Posted 19 October , 2006 ...............all i know is that is name is Samuel Henry treloar and was born in 1888 in Bootle Cumberland......... Emma, He was almost certainly born and brought up in Millom; Bootle is simply the local resgistration district. His family were tin miners that came up from Cornwall in the latter part of the 19th Century to work in the iron ore mines at Hodbarrow. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Watch Posted 20 October , 2006 Share Posted 20 October , 2006 Is that a pair of shorts hes wearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva1angel Posted 20 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 20 October , 2006 yes... it was Millom... Samuels father was From Cornwall as was his mother. Yes... they are Shorts he is wearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorac Posted 20 October , 2006 Share Posted 20 October , 2006 From the 1901 census:- Name: Henry Treloor Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Emily Gender: Male Where born: Millom, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Millom Ecclesiastical parish: St George County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Household Members: Name Age Emily Treloor 33 Henry Treloor 13 Oswald Treloor 3 Wilfred Treloor 5 William Treloor 41 Note the spelling variation and that his first name is'nt used. Could this also be him from the death index?:- Samuel H. Treloar Death 1954 in the Jan.Quarter in Sheffield. Vol.2d Page 216. Lorac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva1angel Posted 20 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 20 October , 2006 That is him for the census.... brothers and sisters are correct... everything on it is correct... Death wise... it seems to be him... He Died in whilst living in Maltby, rotherham... which Is Sheffield so i would say it is him... the year Fits too.... i didnt have His Death Index... so thanks for that :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva1angel Posted 23 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 23 October , 2006 Anyone have any Ideas as to where i can search for his army records? or do i have to pay the national archives or something to find his records for me? i have been told his Records may be at Kew or somewhere but i live a long way from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 23 October , 2006 Share Posted 23 October , 2006 I'd agree with Grumpy about the picture being post-war: the collar dogs for o.r.s would suggest that, plus the blokes are both somewaht more senior - which would add up for a chap who would be 30-odd. I've played with the picture to see if close-ups help: they don't. The collar dogs and pugri titles just blur out, tho' the pugri title is a short word - Devon, Dorset, Hants...that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva1angel Posted 23 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 23 October , 2006 oooh Right.. so he doesnt seem to be a 'normal' soldier? will this make my Search any easier? have looked around alot of Internet Sites but cannot Find anything that will aid My Search for his army records at all... is there a place i could look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorac Posted 23 October , 2006 Share Posted 23 October , 2006 Getting his marriage certificate might give you more information if he had already enlisted. It may state his regiment. The only marriage I can find that possibly fits is:- Name: Samuel H Treloar Year of Registration: 1912 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's Surname: Lowther District: Barrow IN Furness County: Cumbria, Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 1913 The spouse's first name was Ada.A. Lorac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva1angel Posted 23 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 23 October , 2006 yup... thats the one... marries Ada A lowther... will have to order the Certificate and Hope and prey he Joined before he married her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bobstan Posted 3 November , 2006 Share Posted 3 November , 2006 yup... thats the one... marries Ada A lowther... will have to order the Certificate and Hope and prey he Joined before he married her Emma, Samuel Henry Treloar was my Grandmother's cousin and I have a little information about him but not his army details. These were given to me by his brothers son. His father William and my Gt Gt Grandfather Bennet were brothers, they do appear in the Treloar Genealogy website and can be traced back to 1540, but there is no information about them apart from being shown as sons of Thomas Treloar and Mary Roberts. Let me know if you would like further information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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