Albert E Nevis - my grandfather

[janemw]

I have no idea where to start looking for this, so I hope someone out there can point me in the right direction. My grandfather married my grandmother in 1916 and on their marriage certificate it states that at the time of the marriage he was living in the "Military Hospital, Fulford, York" and that his profession was "Soldier". They were married at St. Oswalds parish church by the Acting Chaplin to the Forces, Charles John Neate. Unfortunately, I do not know his number, or what unit he served in, so access to any of his details is almost impossible to come by. I would love to find out what he did in the war, and whether he was at the hospital because he had been injured during service - was he injured abroad or did he drop a tin of beans on his foot whilst in the Army Catering Corps? Any information which anyone could give me would be most gratefully received!

Thanks in anticipation.

janemw

[Stebie9173]

Have you check the Medal Index Cards?

There is only one Albert Nevis listed - Albert Edward Nevis.

Medal card of Nevis, Albert Edward

Corps Regiment No Rank

Royal Garrison Artillery Depot 226 Gunner

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=1

The card looks like it may be a Silver War Badge card relating to the discharge of this man.

Hope this helps,

Steve.

P.S. Nevis is actually a rarely name than I thought. Only 4 in the Army in WW1 (overseas at least)

P.P.S. Medal cards show the entitlement to Medals of a soldier. They can be downloaded via the link for £3.50 (You get a PDF "card" of 6 but only only will be your man)

[janemw]

Have you check the Medal Index Cards?

There is only one Albert Nevis listed - Albert Edward Nevis.

Medal card of Nevis, Albert Edward

Corps Regiment No Rank

Royal Garrison Artillery Depot 226 Gunner

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=1

The card looks like it may be a Silver War Badge card relating to the discharge of this man.

Hope this helps,

Steve.

P.S. Nevis is actually a rarely name than I thought. Only 4 in the Army in WW1 (overseas at least)

P.P.S. Medal cards show the entitlement to Medals of a soldier. They can be downloaded via the link for £3.50 (You get a PDF "card" of 6 but only only will be your man)

Dear Steve,

Thank you so much! Albert Edward was indeed my grandfather and thanks to you I now know twice as much about his service life as I did before! Do you happen to know what "sickness Para 392 XVI KR" might refer to? I presume it is the reason he was in Fulford Military Hospital in the first place.

Thanks again for your help,

Jane Wilson.

[Stebie9173]

KR = King's Regulations - the Army Rulebook.

Para 392 XVI refers to men discharged from the Army due "as no longer fit for service". Sickness is the reason in this case.

There may be a reference on the card that will enable you to refer to the Silver War Badge Rolls (books) at the National Archives at Kew. These usually include a box for "Served overseas" - Yes or No. It may also give further details of his illness. It will also show enlistment and discharge dates if these are not on the Card you have downloaded.

Is there a stamped box on the card?

Steve.

[janemw]

KR = King's Regulations - the Army Rulebook.

Para 392 XVI refers to men discharged from the Army due "as no longer fit for service". Sickness is the reason in this case.

There may be a reference on the card that will enable you to refer to the Silver War Badge Rolls (books) at the National Archives at Kew. These usually include a box for "Served overseas" - Yes or No. It may also give further details of his illness. It will also show enlistment and discharge dates if these are not on the Card you have downloaded.

Is there a stamped box on the card?

Steve.

Hi Steve,

Yes, there is a stamped box on the card but it is rather hard to read. Under the column "Roll" is written what looks like "RGA/101p2". His date of enlistment is 15.12.14 and his date of discharge 2.10.16 (he married my grandmother on 21.09.16). Sadly, there is no one left in the family to ask about his history, so I am at a dead end there.

Where will RGD 2 Depot have been? By looking on Google I have found mention of a No. 2 Depot in Hampshire, but I can't imagine he found his way all the way down there from Hull, where he was born and died! Is there anywhere I can find this out?

Thank you again for your help.

Jane.

[Stebie9173]

The box should be a pre-printed one with the words, Vicory, British and Star on the left hand side, and by the looks of it the reference you quoted in the top box (with a line or ditto beneath).

These top two boxes denote the Victory Medal and British War Medal, the "standard" campaign medals for WW1. If he served overseas in a theatre of war before 31-12-1915 he would also have qualified for a 1914 or 1914-15 Star. If there are references in these boxes then he would have indeed served overseas.

The number strikes me as the sort of number a Territorial would have, and so it is possible that he served in the local Hull Royal Garrison Artillery Brigade. (I know we have one or two people here with a good interest in the Hull RGA). It might be worth starting another topic with the subject including Hull RGA to attract their attention when they next pass by.

Steve.

[Verrinder Ian]

Blow me down! these Nevis's are like buses - wait for ever and then two come along at the same time!

If you look on the Units and Formation thread there's another post relating to a Charles Nevis of the Tank Corps. Any relations do you think?

Regards,

Ian.

[janemw]

The box should be a pre-printed one with the words, Vicory, British and Star on the left hand side, and by the looks of it the reference you quoted in the top box (with a line or ditto beneath).

These top two boxes denote the Victory Medal and British War Medal, the "standard" campaign medals for WW1. If he served overseas in a theatre of war before 31-12-1915 he would also have qualified for a 1914 or 1914-15 Star. If there are references in these boxes then he would have indeed served overseas.

The number strikes me as the sort of number a Territorial would have, and so it is possible that he served in the local Hull Royal Garrison Artillery Brigade. (I know we have one or two people here with a good interest in the Hull RGA). It might be worth starting another topic with the subject including Hull RGA to attract their attention when they next pass by.

Steve.

Thanks Steve,

It is indeed as you describe, with the reference written next to "Victory" and a ditto mark next to "British". I cant help but think there would have been family stories surrounding his exploits had he served overseas, so I think you are probably quite right in that he served locally. I will take your advice and post another message to see if I can find out more about the local RGA Brigade.

Thanks again

Jane.

[janemw]

Blow me down! these Nevis's are like buses - wait for ever and then two come along at the same time!

If you look on the Units and Formation thread there's another post relating to a Charles Nevis of the Tank Corps. Any relations do you think?

Regards,

Ian.

Hi Ian,

I did see the medal card for Charles Nevis of the tank corps when I downloaded my grandfather's. He is not a relative as far as I am aware, that is to say I have not unearthed a Charles whilst researching my family tree, but as you say, it's not a common name! Perhaps when I have had chance to pursue other branches of the Nevis family I will find him!

Thanks for your reply.

JaneW

[Stebie9173]

Sorry, Jane.

I didn't make myself clear. Since he has medals recorded on his MIC he definitely served overseas. I think you probably read the "didn't serve overseas before 31-12-1915" part as not serving overseas at all. When I said "references in these boxes" I meant all of them not just the Star box.

Steve.

[cartoss]

Were the Hull RGA based at Fort Paull ?

Reagards Jamie

[janemw]

Were the Hull RGA based at Fort Paull ?

Reagards Jamie

Sorry Jamie,

I have no idea! I'm rather hoping that someone can tell me. I have found that unless your relative died in the war, it is very difficult to discover anything about their time in the Forces.

JaneW

[janemw]

Sorry, Jane.

I didn't make myself clear. Since he has medals recorded on his MIC he definitely served overseas. I think you probably read the "didn't serve overseas before 31-12-1915" part as not serving overseas at all. When I said "references in these boxes" I meant all of them not just the Star box.

Steve.

Wow, I am surprised. There are no stories circulating within the remaining family about time served during WW1. Although my grandfather died ten years before I was born, I would have thought some record of his time in the Army would have survived. Even my father, (who was himself a gunnery instructor at Sandhurst during the second World War) (and is still alive at 91!) cannot remember anything about his father in law's Army history. I will keep digging.

Thanks again,

Jane.

[KONDOA]

Were the Hull RGA based at Fort Paull ?

Reagards Jamie

Hi Jamie

The 1st Hull Heavy Battery were initially based at East Hull Barracks (Drill Hall) Holderness Road. Later they moved to the racecourse at Hedon.

Roop

[Guest Sir eglamore]

Hi all. just found the site. Spending time researching Bernard Jewitt Hull RGA sub section B 2nd Hull Heavy Bty. My grandad.

I have his medal card but lost service record which I will get again soon. looking forward to using the site.

TTFN

Ernie

[Aaron Nelson]

Jane,

I cant add anything of value as far as your research goes, however, I recently researched my Great Grandfather and like you, knew nothing of his service. It was incredibly rewarding to unearth his time at the front line. The folks on this site made ot possible. You have come to the right place. He too was in the artillery.

Best of luck with your venture and keep us up to date.

kindest regards Aaron.