Chris_Baker Posted 10 October , 2006 Share Posted 10 October , 2006 There is too much risk involved for the forum for any member to make accusations about items offered for sale on eBay or anywhere else for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7t2ndswinger Posted 10 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 10 October , 2006 There's a post elsewhere about duplicate listings of bugles. Here's another for cap badges. Keith. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ARMY-CAP-BADGE-4th-L...1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/British-Army-London-...1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Beckett Posted 10 October , 2006 Share Posted 10 October , 2006 Keith, I am going to adjust your posting as you are breaching a Forum rule, namely: You will not make any statements that could be construed as defamatory of an individual, group or business. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 10 October , 2006 Share Posted 10 October , 2006 Same seller different trading names~both from Swansea....?isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7t2ndswinger Posted 10 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 10 October , 2006 Even if he's acting in an obviously fraudelent manner ? Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Beckett Posted 10 October , 2006 Share Posted 10 October , 2006 Keith, whether you think he is fraudulent or not, the Forum is not the place to place your postings about it. It is Chris Bakers Forum and thats one of the rules. Subject is closed! Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 10 October , 2006 Share Posted 10 October , 2006 Even if he's acting in an obviously fraudelent manner ? You have to be careful here Keith, He is only behaving fraudulently if he is offering Badges he doesnt actually have{& has no intention of supplying},many sellers scan photos from other listings or use "stock" JPGs for illustration purposes,though not ideal,it is not fraudulent. More of a concern is the J Gaunt reference~not confidence inspiring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter B Posted 10 October , 2006 Share Posted 10 October , 2006 There is nothing to stop you having more than one ebay account, you just need to have more than one email address. Muliple ebay accounts are quite common for many reasons, ie some buy on one account, some sell on others, others sell on both etc. As with any thing you buy you have to make your mind up if its right to buy or not. Regards Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7t2ndswinger Posted 10 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 10 October , 2006 Peter, I don't have a problem with that at all. Rather than dig myself into a hole I'd rather let the links be viewed and let people make their own minds up, I'm just trying to save them wasting their money as hundereds of others have judging the feedback. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Beckett Posted 10 October , 2006 Share Posted 10 October , 2006 Keith, thats why I have left the topic open Chris Baker is quite pedantic/sensitive about being sued for any reason as a result of members postings. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 10 October , 2006 Share Posted 10 October , 2006 Not pedantic! More like sensitive! And rightly so. [associate member of 'Pedants r'us] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KevinEndon Posted 10 October , 2006 Share Posted 10 October , 2006 my friend was after this cap badge a while ago and having searched every where for one I contacted the museum. The reply from the curator was that they only had one in the museum and were very very rare. He was tempted to reproduce the badge to raise funds. If I had a cap badge that was as rare as hens teeth I would not start the bidding at £12 and would have a reserve of at least £50. This is not to say the cap badge is not genuine and the seller hasn't done their homework. No liable on me there then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 11 October , 2006 Share Posted 11 October , 2006 I always prefer a photo of the exact item being sold as you can judge condition etc. these multiple listings on auction sites in particular the chinese clones as seen yesterday are a serious concern. gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 11 October , 2006 Share Posted 11 October , 2006 [associate member of 'Pedants r'us] Blimey - they're everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 11 October , 2006 Share Posted 11 October , 2006 I am 1000% with Chris over what is right to say on the forum as the risk of legal action is real. However the laugh is that if some scumbag rips you off there is very lttle you can do about it. The auction sites are of lttle help and the Police dont want to know. There is also no doubt that crooks and scams are becoming more prevalent on these auction sites, even relying on feedback is not always a good idea as these sites allow these characters to continue trading even after multiple complaints. Still its good to have been made aware of the clones as I had never seen that one before. gareth PS a whole evening without the forum was a nightmare. Will send my payment this week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Fisher Posted 11 October , 2006 Share Posted 11 October , 2006 The obvious solution to this one is to step back and look at the facts. Two rare cap badges offered at reasonable prices? Possible, but unlikely. As they say, "If it seems to good to be true..." Caveat emptor, my friends. Still, two people could be getting a bargain.... Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KevinEndon Posted 11 October , 2006 Share Posted 11 October , 2006 Chris, can you answer a question for me please with reference to slander on the forum. Say I was slagging some dealer off for selling what I thought was fake goods on this forum, who it is who is held liable for the slander. Is it the forum owner or he person doing the slander. If no one is present at the time of typing something deemed to be slander how could someone be prosecuted as there would be no proof who exactly typed the remarks. What I am trying to say is, say I was logged onto the forum and went the loo and the painter and decorator who was in my house at the time typed something deemed slander how could it be proved. What are the consequences for the forum or yourself if slander was proven on your website. After all you didn't type it. Please if you can put us in the picture then maybe people will think twice before putting you or themselves into a position where they can be charged with slander. Many thanks, Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7t2ndswinger Posted 12 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 12 October , 2006 What I am trying to say is, say I was logged onto the forum and went the loo and the painter and decorator who was in my house at the time typed something deemed slander how could it be proved. Many thanks, Kevin Kevin, I was hoping that the moderator would have edited your post by now for slandering painters and decorators, a trade in which I work. The matter is now in the hands of my solicitor. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7t2ndswinger Posted 24 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 24 October , 2006 The obvious solution to this one is to step back and look at the facts. Two rare cap badges offered at reasonable prices? Possible, but unlikely. As they say, "If it seems to good to be true..." Caveat emptor, my friends. Still, two people could be getting a bargain.... Graeme Really too good to be true, another has surfaced ! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ARMY-CAP-BADGE-4th-L...1QQcmdZViewItem Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max7474 Posted 26 October , 2006 Share Posted 26 October , 2006 Wow, what a lucky chap to have found an old collection with 3 of same of these ultra-rare badges in it. I wonder if it had all 3 original Birmingham Pals Bns in it as well and maybe an original LRDG; or perhaps several? What is the chance of someone to be so fortunate. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 26 October , 2006 Share Posted 26 October , 2006 Chris, can you answer a question for me please with reference to slander on the forum. Kevin I'm not a lawyer but I'll try my best to give what I think is the right answer. Let's assume that defamation has taken place. I never know whether it's libel or slander on the internet (think it's libel as it's written). So let's forget the various defences one can legimately use and agree that someone is going to have to pay damages. The short answer is that both the writer and the site owner may well be liable. The writer for writing it and the site owner for allowing it to stay there. It think it is now a reasonable defence in law for a site owner to have taken prompt action to remove a defamatory post. The site owner is the most likely target (bit like newspapers usually are) in that they are easily identified and can be sussed to have something worth suing for. However, there's a recent proven case of defamation against an individual who used a username/alias on a forum but was identified from evidence from their Internet Service Provider. In terms of the example you give - that the defence is that you'd gone to the loo and someone else wrote it. It would boil down to whether the jury (I think juries still hear libel cases) believed you or not. Simple as that. Risky. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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