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can anyone tell me bout this uniform plz


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Heres my gt grandads uniform and i dont know anything about it, can anyone here tell me anything about it please like the year, what medal was for and coulour of uniform if possible please.

Thanx so much

Joanne

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I am sorry that I dont know but that uniform looks quite interesting. What regiment was he in?

I cant wait untill our experts tell us that.

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Joanne,

He's a Gordon Highlander and probably a regular soldier at that. On his left lower sleeve he's wearing two good conduct badges. The first was awarded for good conduct after two years of service and the second on completion of five years with good conduct.

I'm unable to help as regards the medal.

Graham.

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Hi,

Alli know was he was a Gordon Highlander and thats it but whether its true or not my nan said he was in the blackwatch and also a pallbearer at King GeorgeV funeral in 1936 but if true i dont know.

Joanne

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Granham,

Thanx for your info are you talking about WW1? i would of thought you are but just incase.

So from what you said he was definnietly in the army for 5 years!! would you beable to tell by the uniform what year at all?

Joanne

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The medal looks like the 1911 Delhi Durbar medal (same ribbon, but considerably larger than the 1911 Coronation Medal).

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totally agree with other pals, gordons... the tigers on the coller,glengarry badge and sporan badge are all correct.

as for medal not my thing...dont know where the black watch came from.....unless a later transfer,but would'nt of thought so.

Andy

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Whats the shadow??? is he wearing a cape or similar ??? Joanne i know its the in thing ? Bt we dnt do txt on hr. lol

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The shadow will be his plaid and if he's wearing the 1911 Dehli Durbar Medal with scarlet we have to looking pre-1914, as very little was seen of scarlet tunics post 1919.

My daughter uses text on MSN to her cousin and friends and I haven't a clue what they're on about. I don't even have a mobile phone.

Graham.

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Can anyone tell me anymore about 1911 Dehli Durbar Medal?

please

Joanne

Joanne,

Go Google. :)

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It is a 1911 Delhi Durbar Medal. This was awarded to those soldiers who took part in the pomp and ceremony of The Delhi Durbar held on 12th December 1911 before an assembly of about 80,000 select people of British India and the princely states to celebrate in the presence of the newly crowned King George V his confirmation as Emperor of India. It was quite a spectacle, with elephants and native soldiers and all the riches of the Moghul Empire it aspired to emulate.

http://www.virtualmuseum.info/collections/...&ckid=11649

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Hi,

Thanx for your information about the medal but ive got alot of learning to do havent i as i dont understand any of this but want to learn somehow.

Im now confused though as you say the medal is for 1911 and the war started in 1914 and i have no idea when my Gt Grandad joined or was called up but i have a letter from someone who done some reasearch and it says my Gt Grandad was in India, is that what your mentioning?

Sorry to be a pain.

Joanne

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Joanne,

Yes! To be awarded the Dheli Durbar Medal he would have been a regular soldier serving in India in 1911. From what I have been informed through other Forum members and from my own sources, it would appear that only those soldiers selected to take part in the Durbar procession were given the medal.

Now I'm not familiar with the comings and goings of the Gordon Highlanders during this period of time so I'm hoping a Forum member will tell us which battalion of Gordon's actually took part in the Durbar, and whether or not a list of medal recipients still exists.

It may be a good idea if you contacted the Gordon's Regimental Museum and asked if they had any 1911 Muster Roll Books or a List of those presented with the Dheli Durbar Medal in 1911. You get really lucky and they may have the exact information you need.

Graham.

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Be prepared to dig deep though, the Gordon's museum expects a donation of £20 per enquiry :(

No doubt another pal will have volume 3 of the regimental history, which should cover the period your looking at here.

Barrie

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Scottish elements of the Indian Northern Army as at Nov 1911.

1) Gordon Highlanders 2nd Bn

2) Kings Own Scot. Borderers 1st Bn

3) Royal Scots 1st Bn

4) Highland Light Infantry 1st Bn

5) Seaforth highlanders 1st Bn

6) Royal Highlanders 2nd Bn.

All averaging a 1000 men all ranks, but no idea which participated in the parade.

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Hi Graham,

Thanx for repying to me again, what you have said is very interesting and im more intrigued to find out more and more but as new to all this i dont know have a clue about going about it all.

So if i sent a letter to them what kind of information would they beable to give me do you know? example date of birth or army numbers?

Joanne

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Barrie,

I wouldnt even know what to say to them in a letter as i have no details to go by so i dont know if i would do that but what do i have to lose!

Joanne

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Scottish elements of the Indian Northern Army as at Nov 1911.

1) Gordon Highlanders 2nd Bn

2) Kings Own Scot. Borderers 1st Bn

3) Royal Scots 1st Bn

4) Highland Light Infantry 1st Bn

5) Seaforth highlanders 1st Bn

6) Royal Highlanders 2nd Bn.

All averaging a 1000 men all ranks, but no idea which participated in the parade.

I dont know what any of this means im afraid. Sorry.

Anyone help!!!

Joanne

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Bn is short for battalion.

Your great grandfather was in the army. That army was made up of many Regiments (Gordon Highlanders being one of these). Within that Regiment there were would have been several Battalions. Then within each Battalion were smaller Companies. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong with that assesment! There were also Divisions and Brigades, but those are beyond me. Go here on the main site for an explanation of each.

(So in the New Zealand army, my great uncle listed in my signature was in the 3rd company of the 1st Battalion of the Auckland Infantry Regiment)

Basically, serving in India at the time were:

men of the 2nd battalion of the Gordon Highlanders

men of the 1st battalion of the Kings Own Scottish Borderers

etc

But I'm not sure if Orokep meant that there were 1000 men in each battalion (I think he did since a battalion is just over 1000 men), or if all the men from his list added together to be 1000 men.

Allie

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Apologies, it was late and I was trying to avoid a lot of typing. A fuller edit is here with more on the Gordons

Scottish elements of the Indian Northern Army as at Nov 1911.'

1) Gordon Highlanders 2nd Battalion (Bn). Comprising 25 Officers, 2 Warrant Officers, 45 Sergeants, 20 buglers/ Trumpeters and drummers, 926 rank and file, total 1018.

2) Kings Own Scot. Borderers 1st Bn. Total 1022

3) Royal Scots 1st Bn. Total 1028

4) Highland Light Infantry 1st Bn. Total 1077

5) Seaforth highlanders 1st Bn. Total 1054

6) Royal Highlanders 2nd Bn. Total 1022

but no idea which participated in the parade. (PS. was this where the old and now demolished white city North London, got its name)

Information from monthly returns muster roll Northern Indian Army, last quarter 1911, it happened to be on the same page as the RGA 81st company ones.

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