Michael Pegum Posted 30 September , 2006 Share Posted 30 September , 2006 I need help with an inscription, please. The one below is on the WW I section of the war memorial in Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh, Northern Ireland. The name of Corporal E. K. Coulter, R.P.A. appears in the section “Other Units in British Expeditionary Force”. In this context, that means not a member of any Irish Regiment, and not Canadian, etc. Letters after a name on this memorial may indicate a decoration or a regiment/corps. Problem 1. What does R.P.A. mean? Problem 2. Who was Cpl. E. K. Coulter? I can’t find him on the C.W.G.C. website, even with everything “Unknown” except World War I. Hope you can solve this. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 30 September , 2006 Share Posted 30 September , 2006 not on sdgw or mic either. know a Irish Woolsley Coulter races bikes and Aussie Matt Coulter who stunt rides quads amongst others. If its any use I also found a H J Dundas who was a Driver in the R P A. the African Tutsi Rebel army or Rwandan Patriotic Army (RPA) seems to have been a 1970's force unless its anything to do with the Rationalist Press Association could have been a reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pegum Posted 1 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 1 October , 2006 If its any use I also found a H J Dundas who was a Driver in the R P A. Thanks, chaz. Where did you find H. J. Dundas? The name isn't on C.W.G.C. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumberny Posted 6 June , 2010 Share Posted 6 June , 2010 I need help with an inscription, please. The one below is on the WW I section of the war memorial in Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh, Northern Ireland. The name of Corporal E. K. Coulter, R.P.A. appears in the section “Other Units in British Expeditionary Force”. In this context, that means not a member of any Irish Regiment, and not Canadian, etc. Letters after a name on this memorial may indicate a decoration or a regiment/corps. Problem 1. What does R.P.A. mean? Problem 2. Who was Cpl. E. K. Coulter? I can’t find him on the C.W.G.C. website, even with everything “Unknown” except World War I. Hope you can solve this. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumberny Posted 6 June , 2010 Share Posted 6 June , 2010 I've just bumped into your correspondence about Corporal EKCoulter RPA named on the Enniskillen War Memorial. I am a volunteer in Inniskilling Regimental Museum in Enniskillen and I have recently started to research all the names on the war memorial. I have not yet reached Coulter's name and I imagine I am going to be in difficulties with "RPA". I wonder did you ever resolve the question and if so I would be delighted to hear from you. Would you have learned anything else about the man? Regards, Clive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted 7 June , 2010 Share Posted 7 June , 2010 Michael, Had a look through a militar acronym site and apart from many other reasons for RPA, one stuck out and it was Reserve Personnel, Army. Could have this been the meaning ? David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 7 June , 2010 Share Posted 7 June , 2010 What about Name: KANE Initials: E Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Gunner Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery Unit Text: 24th Bty., 38th Bde. Age: 28 Date of Death: 24/11/1917 Service No: 57996 Additional information: Son of Eliza Coulter, of Tatnafree, Brookeborough, Co. Fermanagh. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: XII. B. 22. Cemetery: TYNE COT CEMETERY The EK could be the E Kane, and I assume Brookeborough is not too far from Enniskillen? Could the RPA actually be a misread of RFA by the mason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janecavell Posted 7 June , 2010 Share Posted 7 June , 2010 Could the RPA actually be a misread of RFA by the mason? I wondered that too, Kevin. A search of the online London Gazette for RPA yields several results, but all the ones I checked were in fact OCR errors for RFA. Jane P.S. and your E. Kane sounds like a good candidate for E.K. Coulter too. Good detective work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pegum Posted 9 June , 2010 Author Share Posted 9 June , 2010 Reserve Personnel, Army sounds reasonable, but why is it so rare? Large numbers of soldiers who had served their time were recalled. As for an error by the mason, the only other similar designations on this section of the memorial ("Other units in the B.E.F." i.e. not Irish regiments) were in corps: R.A.M.C., R.A.O.C., R.E.). Of course, the R.F.A., R.G.A. and R.H.A. were corps, not regiments, so it might be right, though I doubt if an error would not have been repaired. The whole text of the inscription can be seen at Enniskillen Great War Memorial on the 'Text of the memorial and further information' .pdf document. The identification as E. Kane looks good, but his rank was gunner. Even if there is an error in the rank on the CWGC list, but he was in the artillery, wouldn't he have been called a bombardier on the memorial, not a corporal? The area would include Brookeborough, by the way; Coulter is (or was) quite a frequent name, as there are four others of that name on this memorial. I don't think I am any wiser (or more knowledgeable). Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headgardener Posted 9 June , 2010 Share Posted 9 June , 2010 'Reserve personnel, Army' sounds very unlikely to me. Has anyone here ever heard of it before? Sounds like a much more recent abbreviation than WW1, too.... My suggestions; Maybe it's someone who didn't serve abroad, and was with a quasi-military unit that was thought worthy of commemoration i.e. a cadet corps, some kind of local volunteer group, or a local volunteer police body. Maybe it's a mis-spelling of RFA. You'd have thought someone would have sorted it out years ago, but that might be assuming too much. Next step; Check deaths in Ireland for the period 1914-1919 or 1920. Did anyone with this name die? If not, try deaths in the rest of the UK for the same period. Next, try to find a birth certificate for someone with this name, see what comes up and see if that takes you anywhere. Does that name appear on another local memorial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted 9 June , 2010 Share Posted 9 June , 2010 Michael, A bombardier is a Lance Corporal next step up Corporal, according to my g/fathers paybook. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headgardener Posted 9 June , 2010 Share Posted 9 June , 2010 A bombardier is a Lance Corporal next step up Corporal, according to my g/fathers paybook. Gunner, Lance-Bombadier, Bombadier, Sergeant, is how it goes...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 10 June , 2010 Share Posted 10 June , 2010 What about local newspaper archives for Casualty Lists, or Church baptism, marriage records etc? The War Memorial must have had Names submitted to a committee, so are there any records with the Council? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumberny Posted 11 June , 2010 Share Posted 11 June , 2010 What about local newspaper archives for Casualty Lists, or Church baptism, marriage records etc? The War Memorial must have had Names submitted to a committee, so are there any records with the Council? I'm really glad I put the cat among the pigeons by re-opening the correspondence and I thank you all for you suggestions. I have already started trawling through the microfilms of our three local papers at the library and I will keep Kane/Coulter to the front of my mind as I continue. I have been discussing the RPA with local Legion men and museum volunteers including a former museum curator who was instrumental in adding the WW11 names to the memorial. No one ever noticed it before. Clive Johnston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted 11 June , 2010 Share Posted 11 June , 2010 Headgardener, Slightly pre war but the pay book says Appointed A/Bombardier (a provisional rank), Promoted Bombardier, Promoted Corporal, Promoted Sergeant etc etc David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headgardener Posted 11 June , 2010 Share Posted 11 June , 2010 Headgardener, Slightly pre war but the pay book says Appointed A/Bombardier (a provisional rank), Promoted Bombardier, Promoted Corporal, Promoted Sergeant etc etc David Actually, I've just realised that you're right. Though it's a bit of an odd situation; Bdr at that time was the equivalent to the RE rank of 2/Cpl, which is essentially a L/Cpl (they only have one stripe, just like a L/Cpl). It's unique to the artillery. So, at that time it went Gnr, L/Bdr, Bdr, Cpl, Sgt, just as it says in your paybook. I believe that this rank structure changed after the end of WW1, so we're both right, but you were more right than me in this instance......! Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm just off to enjoy a slice of humble pie..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumberny Posted 19 February , 2011 Share Posted 19 February , 2011 I have finally reached this man in my research of the names on Enniskillen's War Memorial. Here is my answer: This was 57996 Gunner Edward Kane Royal Field Artillery (RFA) killed in action 24 Nov 1917. 1901 Irish Census records show Edward Coulter, 11 years, living at Tattinfree, Brookeborough. He was son of James and Eliza Coulter. His maternal grandmother Ellen Kane was living with the family. It is reasonable to assume he adopted her name when he enlisted. My work has uncovered many, many other mistakes on the memorial and this has complicated my research a lot. Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 20 February , 2011 Share Posted 20 February , 2011 Wow! Glad to hear that at least one of the unintended errors has been resolved! Pleased that I was lucky enough to find what was the missing link. I hope you have been able to track down the source records, and perhaps it was just down to florid style of handwriting? Makes it all worthwhile <sigh> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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