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Ebbette twins 5th London 1.7.16


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Does anyone have any background information on Roland Frank and Sidney A Ebbetts, former won MM on 1.7.16 but sadly his brother was killed in the attack on Gommecourt; both 5th London Rgt.know fair amount about their war service but have no family background other than they were both teachers: only have one photo of R F mid 1930s; Thanks

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784 SA Ebbetts lived in Shepherds Bush

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1901 cenus:-

Charles Ebbett Head Age 49 Upholsterer Born Marylebone

Harriet H. Wife " 47 " "

Ellen A. Dau. " 21 Student " Kensington

Ada A. " " 17 " Paddington

Ethel M. " " 6 " Hammersmith

Charles E. Son " 19 (Ex ?) Pupil Teacher " Marylebone

William F. " " 15 Cashier (Shop) " Paddington

Percy E. " " 12 " "

Roland F. " " 10 " Barnes, Surrey

Sidney A. " " 10 " " "

All residing at 74 Devonport Road, Hammersmith, London

Edit: name should read Ebbetts not Ebbett

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784 SA Ebbetts lived in Shepherds Bush

Thank you very much; will try and follow via local newspapers

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1901 cenus:-

Charles Ebbett Head Age 49 Upholsterer Born Marylebone

Harriet H. Wife " 47 " "

Ellen A. Dau. " 21 Student " Kensington

Ada A. " " 17 " Paddington

Ethel M. " " 6 " Hammersmith

Charles E. Son " 19 (Ex ?) Pupil Teacher " Marylebone

William F. " " 15 Cashier (Shop) " Paddington

Percy E. " " 12 " "

Roland F. " " 10 " Barnes, Surrey

Sidney A. " " 10 " " "

All residing at 74 Devonport Road, Hammersmith, London

Edit: name should read Ebbetts not Ebbett

Quite a family! many thanks for this very useful info

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Devonport Road is in Shepherds Bush, Hammersmith, London W12.

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Sidney and Frank enlisted together and were both originally in the 2/5th LRB. They were posted to the 1/5th LRB in September 1915. Sidney lived with his parents at 30 Wormholt Road, Shepherd's Bush and worked in the LCC Education Department. There are some mentions of them in 'Gentlemen and Officers' by K W Mitchinson, pub IWM 1995.

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Sidney and Frank enlisted together and were both originally in the 2/5th LRB. They were posted to the 1/5th LRB in September 1915. Sidney lived with his parents at 30 Wormholt Road, Shepherd's Bush and worked in the LCC Education Department. There are some mentions of them in 'Gentlemen and Officers' by K W Mitchinson, pub IWM 1995.

Thanks Bill

Also mentioned in the History; R F won MM on 1.7.16 along with 4 other LRB men ; the citations have survived luckily; clear from officer's report that SA would have been awarded gallantry medal if he had survived the day. I have done a fair bit of research into the LRB's casualties on 1.7.16 and have come to the view that Ebbetts was one of 303 LRB men who died or whose death resulted from wounds incurred that day. It is also possible to identify the 56 LRB PoWs although cannot trace a Honeywell quoted by Mitchinson.

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1901 cenus:-

Charles Ebbett Head Age 49 Upholsterer Born Marylebone

Harriet H. Wife " 47 " "

Ellen A. Dau. " 21 Student " Kensington

Ada A. " " 17 " Paddington

Ethel M. " " 6 " Hammersmith

Charles E. Son " 19 (Ex ?) Pupil Teacher " Marylebone

William F. " " 15 Cashier (Shop) " Paddington

Percy E. " " 12 " "

Roland F. " " 10 " Barnes, Surrey

Sidney A. " " 10 " " "

All residing at 74 Devonport Road, Hammersmith, London

Edit: name should read Ebbetts not Ebbett

Hello again; checked NA site for his other brothers and discovered Charles E served as 4951 London R, and RIR 44477. I have built up a nominal roll of LRB men over the years and have no record of a 4951 so he too could be LRB. have found 4 drafts to RIR around this number in early 1917 but 44477 not in theses sequences; have asked for help on the Forum; so 4 of the brothers overseas 14-18!! thanks again

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Thanks Bill

Also mentioned in the History; R F won MM on 1.7.16 along with 4 other LRB men ; the citations have survived luckily; clear from officer's report that SA would have been awarded gallantry medal if he had survived the day. I have done a fair bit of research into the LRB's casualties on 1.7.16 and have come to the view that Ebbetts was one of 303 LRB men who died or whose death resulted from wounds incurred that day. It is also possible to identify the 56 LRB PoWs although cannot trace a Honeywell quoted by Mitchinson.

Hi,

Do you know how many LRBs taken Prisoner 1/7-16 there was always a story my grandfather Ernest Hoddinott was taken on that day - He is mentioned in Mitchinson but no dates of capture - don't even know if he went over the top that day - If he did it would explain a lot.

Regards, Mark

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Hi,

Do you know how many LRBs taken Prisoner 1/7-16 there was always a story my grandfather Ernest Hoddinott was taken on that day - He is mentioned in Mitchinson but no dates of capture - don't even know if he went over the top that day - If he did it would explain a lot.

Regards, Mark

Hi Mark

Yes he was captured on 1.7.16 with 55 other LRB men - there is a pic of him in Gentlemen and Officers by Mitchinson along with other LRB PoW s taken that day; he is wrongly named as Honeywell; no one of that name in LRB

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