Duncan Posted 7 August , 2006 Share Posted 7 August , 2006 Could someone please check this 1901 Census details I have for the Madden family of Scotland, Liverpool? I have 8H 19 Court, Penrhyn Street, St Matthew’s Parish, Scotland, Liverpool. John Madden, head, 38, Dock labourer. Annie Madden, wife, 28. Bernard, son, 17, Dock labourer. Maggie, daughter, 11. Sarah, daughter, 9. John, son, 6. Patrick, son, 4. That would have made her 11 when Bernard was born!!! Obviously I’ve got something wrong somewhere? Cheers, Duncan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alliekiwi Posted 7 August , 2006 Share Posted 7 August , 2006 Several things... She might be the second wife, and not the mother of Bernard. Afterall, there is quite a gap between Bernard and his younger sister, Maggie. Whomever it was that gave the ages or filled in the form might have given the wrong age. This could be accidental, or it could be deliberate (following the Rule of Ancestors: If a woman, thou shalt lie about thy age, yea even unto the census taker, rather than bear the shame of being older than thy husband.) Whomever it was that was typing up the information for online either made a typo, who couldn't read the handwriting very well. Allie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 7 August , 2006 Share Posted 7 August , 2006 Duncan Bernard is shown on the census image as BROTHER, not Son as suggested. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemimajane Posted 7 August , 2006 Share Posted 7 August , 2006 I have had a look at the image - and it is definitely 28 (comparing the handwriting against other entries on the page.) So it is not a transcription error. Regards Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 7 August , 2006 Share Posted 7 August , 2006 Image attached which shows that Annie is NOT the mother of Bernard who is in fact John's BROTHER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 7 August , 2006 Share Posted 7 August , 2006 Duncan John and Annie are living at 8 Court, Kew Street Liverpool in the 1891 census with their daughter Maggie aged 1. Annie's age is recorded as 21. Perhaps Annie or John were on the tipple when they gave their ages to the 1901 enumerator? regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 7 August , 2006 Share Posted 7 August , 2006 Perhaps Annie or John were on the tipple when they gave their ages to the 1901 enumerator? Or perhaps Annie was really only 18 in 1891. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Clay Posted 7 August , 2006 Share Posted 7 August , 2006 Duncan's question is answered in post 3, but further posts raises another question which can be answered (if Duncan is interested - and if he doesn't already have the info) by getting hold of one of the kids' birth certs to find their mum Annie's maiden name, then tracking down her birth registration on one of the online sites (eg Ancestry, freeBMD, 1837online etc). Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted 10 August , 2006 Author Share Posted 10 August , 2006 Thanks for the help everyone, thanks great. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-5th-kings Posted 16 January , 2013 Share Posted 16 January , 2013 Annie's maiden name was Spellman. The Bernard in question is John's brother so John and Annie had not been on the tipple as said by Melpack. John and Annie did have a son Bernard who was born in 1902 and was my grandad. Hope this answer's the first question. Colin Madden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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