johnbeddows Posted 16 July , 2006 Share Posted 16 July , 2006 Looking for information on Private Charles Beddow 10375 of the 1st Bn KSLI who died aged 19 on 9 August 1915 and is commerated on panels 47 & 49 Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial. Many thanks John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 16 July , 2006 Share Posted 16 July , 2006 Hi John I would guess who know he was a Broseley lad. He landed at St. Nazaire with the 1st Battalion on 10th September, 1914. The Battalion then proceeded to The Aisne and took over trenches a quarter of a mile east of Vailly on night of 21st September. Later it moved to trenches half a mile west of Vailly. It then joined the race to the sea, and took up postions in defence of Le Quesne Farm, Armentieres, and was involved in heavy fighting here between 21st & 26th October. The Battalion remained in Armentieres sector until the end of May 1915, when they moved to Ypres, being stationed at various parts of the line between Wieltje and Morteldje. The Division was called in to re-capture Hooge on the 9th August, the 1/K.S.L.I. re-capture the crator at Hooge. Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 16 July , 2006 Share Posted 16 July , 2006 Hi John I have a 5716 Pte. Beddow, Frederick, 2/K.S.L.I., of 20 Carver's Road, Broseley in my database, and I was wondering if you know if he is related ? Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbeddows Posted 16 July , 2006 Author Share Posted 16 July , 2006 Thanks for the emails 6th Shropshire, yes he is related but not on my tree I am following up the lead for another Beddows, how come he is on your database? Look forward to your reply John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 16 July , 2006 Share Posted 16 July , 2006 Hi John I have a database of all the men who served in the K.S.L.I. during the Great War (ok it does not yet contain all the men who served, I would say I have about 90%). Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbeddows Posted 16 July , 2006 Author Share Posted 16 July , 2006 Hi Annette, Do you any more information on the Beddow brothers, it looks like Charles was KIA, but that Frederick survived, there were other brothers Richard and William all from Broseley? http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/beddowsfamily/index.htm regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbeddows Posted 20 July , 2006 Author Share Posted 20 July , 2006 Hi Annette, Passed over the information that you sent to the other Beddows who I was tracing info for, she was very pleased and also now knows more about Frederick who also enlisted. Many thanks John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 21 July , 2006 Share Posted 21 July , 2006 Hi John Sorry I missed you post above. All I can add is that Frederick landed in France with the 2nd Battalion on 21/12/14 & went to Class Z Reserve on 19-4-19. I have 16 Beddow/Beddows in my database, two came from Hadley not far from Broseley & there are serveral were I do not know where they came from including three William's. Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbeddows Posted 21 July , 2006 Author Share Posted 21 July , 2006 Hi John Sorry I missed you post above. All I can add is that Frederick landed in France with the 2nd Battalion on 21/12/14 & went to Class Z Reserve on 19-4-19. I have 16 Beddow/Beddows in my database, two came from Hadley not far from Broseley & there are serveral were I do not know where they came from including three William's. Annette Hi Annette, thanks for the reply, what is Class Z Reserve? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 21 July , 2006 Share Posted 21 July , 2006 Hi John Just in case the Germans kicked off again, many men were put on Reserve (not sure why it was called Class Z) after November 11th. I am sure Someone can give more info. on it them me. Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambledonman Posted 3 December , 2007 Share Posted 3 December , 2007 Hi Annette I hope you dont mind my enquiry here but I did send a query recently about my Uncle Richard Beddoes 8088 Shrops LI and I think I may have forgotten to put my GWF name on it. Am under Jacobs20. If you did not receive it I saw your reply to John Beddoes about having a database of names for KSLI men in WW1 and wondered if you have my relative on it. From the Medal Roll card [have not been to kew yet] it would seem he served in France with KSLI and received Victory & British medals as Private in KSLI. Date of entry in war theatre is given as 20.12.14. Thanks Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 3 December , 2007 Share Posted 3 December , 2007 Hi Keith I do not have any info. on Richard Beddoes but I can tell you from the date that he entered F/F that he was in the 2nd Battalion. Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambledonman Posted 3 December , 2007 Share Posted 3 December , 2007 Hi Annette Thanks for your swift reply. It means that another piece of the jigsaw is done. The trip to Kew will be easier with your info. thanks again. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambledonman Posted 28 June , 2010 Share Posted 28 June , 2010 Hi Keith I do not have any info. on Richard Beddoes but I can tell you from the date that he entered F/F that he was in the 2nd Battalion. Annette Hi Annette It`s a long time since I have looked on this site and was wondering if you have any more information on my great-uncle Richard Beddoes Pte 8088 2nd Battalian Shropshire Light Infantry. He was discharged from active service on 4/12/1916 as a Pte 62100 Royal Welsh Fusiliers. I know that he suffered from wounds received in the War but he did live until 1956! I have found out from the 1911 census that there was a Richard Beddows in 2nd Batt SLI in the Gough Barracks in Trimulgherry India & am wondering if this is him. Is there anywhere I could look to see when he joined SLI as it is not clear from the medal card of Richard Beddoes as to when he changed from SLI to RWF. It does say that he entered France on 20.12.14 - can you give me any idea as to which part of France this may have been? I realise you are very busy so if and when you can I would be grateful if you could find time to reply. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 29 June , 2010 Share Posted 29 June , 2010 Hi Keith Still do not have anything on your uncle Richard Beddoes. I can give you a rough date of when he enlisted, which is around early Feb. 1906, also from other mens service papers I can tell you he trans. to 6(G)/R.W.F. about 28-09-16. I also see on his M.I.C. that he was 4/Dorset 5720297, I think this is a post war number but not 100% sure about that. I can't say if it's your uncle in the 1911 census and not sure of the top of my head if 2nd Batt. were in India then but I have a book somewhere that will hopefully record where the 2nd Batt. was in 1911 (chances are they were in India then). Also I think your uncle would have been Army Reserve at start of war and mobilised on 5th Aug. 1914 (I had a look at a couple of chaps papers near his number and they were trans. to Army Reserve in early 1913). I do not have time now but will post brief details of 2nd Batt.s movements soon. Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambledonman Posted 29 June , 2010 Share Posted 29 June , 2010 Hi Keith Still do not have anything on your uncle Richard Beddoes. I can give you a rough date of when he enlisted, which is around early Feb. 1906, also from other mens service papers I can tell you he trans. to 6(G)/R.W.F. about 28-09-16. I also see on his M.I.C. that he was 4/Dorset 5720297, I think this is a post war number but not 100% sure about that. I can't say if it's your uncle in the 1911 census and not sure of the top of my head if 2nd Batt. were in India then but I have a book somewhere that will hopefully record where the 2nd Batt. was in 1911 (chances are they were in India then). Also I think your uncle would have been Army Reserve at start of war and mobilised on 5th Aug. 1914 (I had a look at a couple of chaps papers near his number and they were trans. to Army Reserve in early 1913). I do not have time now but will post brief details of 2nd Batt.s movements soon. Annette Hi Annette Most grateful for your prompt reply. I have decided to put together a" life story" of him and his brother Ernest [ who died of flu in 1918 - was in Labour Corps] up till 1918. The information you have given will increase my knowledge of the military aspects of their lives. Thanks again Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hywyn Posted 3 August , 2010 Share Posted 3 August , 2010 Richard Beddows 62100 RWF is on Silver War Badge Roll J/250 That says: 6th Garrison Battalion. Enlisted 5/2/1906. Discharged (Sickness) 4/12/1916. Oveseas Service-Yes Hywyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambledonman Posted 26 August , 2011 Share Posted 26 August , 2011 Richard Beddows 62100 RWF is on Silver War Badge Roll J/250 That says: 6th Garrison Battalion. Enlisted 5/2/1906. Discharged (Sickness) 4/12/1916. Oveseas Service-Yes Hywyn Hi Hywyn Sorry this reply is so long since your valuable info above. It ties in well with the info given on his discharge certificate. Where would be the best place to find out about the 6th Garrison Battalion[presumably RWF?]. I seem to remember something about him having been in India- would this tie in with that? Apologies for late reply-I seem to do this in fits and starts! Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hywyn Posted 27 August , 2011 Share Posted 27 August , 2011 6th Garrison Battalion RWF. Formed at Aintree in September 1916, and moved to Egypt in January 1917, remaining there throughout the war. From Long Long Trail http://www.1914-1918.net/rwf.htm So, if he transferred directly into the 6th Garr Bn RWF then no India Service with RWF. Hywyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambledonman Posted 27 August , 2011 Share Posted 27 August , 2011 6th Garrison Battalion RWF. Formed at Aintree in September 1916, and moved to Egypt in January 1917, remaining there throughout the war. From Long Long Trail http://www.1914-1918.net/rwf.htm So, if he transferred directly into the 6th Garr Bn RWF then no India Service with RWF. Hywyn I am most grateful for your prompt reply. Do you have any idea if 6th Garrison Bat. stayed at Aintree until Dec 1916 as he was discharged 4th Dec 1916? Could be the India link was just my mishearing of family stories. As always it seems one`s interest in these things comes too late to ask people who would definitely have known! Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hywyn Posted 28 August , 2011 Share Posted 28 August , 2011 I can't see that the 6th Garr went to India so the two possibities are: Most likely. His previous KSLI as discussed above. Not very likely. The post war duty with the Dorsets as per his medal card. It may be worth starting another thread with this unit in the header to discuss that possibilty although, all said, it does show that the 4th was a TF unit. Given that he has a post war number there is a possibilty that his files have survived. See http://www.1914-1918.net/records.html where it says this: "The Ministry of Defence If the soldier continued in service to 1921 or later (and the possibility of his re-enlisting in 1919 for just one or a few years service should not be ignored; thousands did so) or if he returned to serve in the army in WW2, his record will not yet be public. It can be obtained - on payment of a fee and demonstration of evidence of kinship - from the Ministry of Defence Veteran's Agency." You may need to read around the page/research a bit more to see if TF men are included Hywyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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