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Henry

 

His MM is noted in the war diary of No 2 (Special) Mortar Company, 5th Battalion, Special Brigade on 31 July, 1917 along with that of Cpl Harvey (MM) and Pioneer Eaglem (DCM). The official notification appeared in the London Gazette  on 17.9.17. The diary notes these awards as " being in connection with work on XIV Corps front."  These operations were almost certainly in support of the Guards Division, probably around 21 July 1917. Unfortunately there is no  way of establishing what the exact circumstances were.   His home town  was   Glasgow, and his wife Evelyn was residing there, so there might be something in his local newspaper.

 

 

TR

 

 

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Henry Richmond

Terry,

I am extremely grateful for this. You and the forum have answered questions that I have been puzzled over for a number of years. I have reviewed the papers etc that were passed to me and i don't think that I have any further useful information but do please let me know if you think that I might have anything pertinent. Should you, or any other members have information relating to Sjt James Miller I would be very grateful.

Best regards

Henry Richmond

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On 22/12/2002 at 15:21, Terry_Reeves said:

Over the past few years I have been compiling a roll of men who served in the RE Special Brigade and Special Companies. This formation was responsible for Britains chemical warfare effort.

I am now able to identify some 2-3000 of these men but would like to hear from any forum member who has information about any individual whom they believe served in the Brigade.

In particular, I would be interested in number and rank, any snippets of personal information, and in the case of those men who were killed, the location of any town or village war memorial that they may have been commemorated on.

If I can help anybody with identifying men whom they believe were in the Specials I will be pleased to do so.

Terry Reeves

Hello have you got (Corporal) Walter Reeve at all from the Star & Garter home, I'm just compiling a book ''of sorts'' and I spoke to him most likely in 1993. I dont have a photo of him, that would be nice to get hold of. 

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4 hours ago, toofatfortakeoff said:

Hello have you got (Corporal) Walter Reeve at all from the Star & Garter home, I'm just compiling a book ''of sorts'' and I spoke to him most likely in 1993. I dont have a photo of him, that would be nice to get hold of. 

He was 220323 Pioneer Walter Reeves. Resided The Post Office Wylam -on-Tyne. Attested 6.6.16. Army  Reserve 7.6.16 - 4.7.17.  Home, mobilised 5.2.17-29.3.17. A pharmacists apprentice. Disembarked , France 30.3.17 and joined "L" Special Company RE.  Wounded 25.6.18. 

 

After that I  have little information. There is one man of the same name in the 1939 Regeister - residing 66 Croom Hill , Kensington a Pharmacist and Opthalmic Optician, but there is no evidence to show that it is him. I have no photograph I'm afraid.

 

Can you provide any more information about hime please?

 

TR

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Yes thats him pharmacist-he was trained to do that and 17 when he enlisted,  he lived in Star & Garter Home at Richmond.  Im sure they keep a record of persons in the home...I'll come back to you later with more info,my notes were a bit crap but its mainly technical stuff. As mentioned Im writing a compendium of notes into a possible book, he still had a good Geordie accent, big man and what was left of black hair. 

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Hello i was wondering if there has been any more info on william lawrence as i have recently found out hes my great uncle and have been searching for info and any photos of him and came across this post that william is mentioned on any info would be apreciated. Thanks

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On 22/12/2002 at 15:21, Terry_Reeves said:

Over the past few years I have been compiling a roll of men who served in the RE Special Brigade and Special Companies. This formation was responsible for Britains chemical warfare effort.

I am now able to identify some 2-3000 of these men but would like to hear from any forum member who has information about any individual whom they believe served in the Brigade.

In particular, I would be interested in number and rank, any snippets of personal information, and in the case of those men who were killed, the location of any town or village war memorial that they may have been commemorated on.

If I can help anybody with identifying men whom they believe were in the Specials I will be pleased to do so.

Terry Reeves

Hi 

 

I am looking for information on my great uncle, 2nd Lt George William Moore. He was killed 28th March 1918 while serving with the 288th Royal Garrison Artillery. He had only transferred to them on the 7th February 1918 and we believe he might have been involved in the 2nd Specials Royal Engineers. It would make sense as he was a Chemist but I cannot find any information to verify this. if anyone can help I would be most grateful. 

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3 hours ago, Jules M said:

Hi 

 

I am looking for information on my great uncle, 2nd Lt George William Moore. He was killed 28th March 1918 while serving with the 288th Royal Garrison Artillery. He had only transferred to them on the 7th February 1918 and we believe he might have been involved in the 2nd Specials Royal Engineers. It would make sense as he was a Chemist but I cannot find any information to verify this. if anyone can help I would be most grateful. 

Jules

 

He originally  enlisted into the 16th London Regiment with the number 1557.  He transferred to The RE Special Brigade with the number 91649, probably in early 1916,  and was posted to G Special Company, 2nd Battalion , Special Brigade. 

 

He is mentioned in G Coy war diary on 1 May 1917 as being transferred to Cadet School. He has a file at TNA in WO339/110356 which might fill in some gaps.

 

TR

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11 minutes ago, Terry_Reeves said:

Jules

 

He originally  enlisted into the 16th London Regiment with the number 1557.  He transferred to The RE Special Brigade with the number 91649, probably in early 1916,  and was posted to G Special Company, 2nd Battalion , Special Brigade. 

 

He is mentioned in G Coy war diary on 1 May 1917 as being transferred to Cadet School. He has a file at TNA in WO339/110356 which might fill in some gaps.

 

TR

Many thanks. I will look into the file.

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10 minutes ago, Jules M said:

Many thanks. I will look into the file.

Jules, do you have a date of birth for him please and also where he was educated? Thanks.

 

TR

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15 minutes ago, Terry_Reeves said:

on 1 May 1917 as being transferred to Cadet School. He has a file at TNA in WO339/110356 which might fill in some gaps.

LondonGazette 17/12/17 13173  wef 9/12/17 to be 2ndLt RGA (SR) from Officer Cadet Unit

 

His 1914 Medal Roll entry says he 're-enlisted' to Royal Engineers 2/9/1915 which fits with that 91649 number issue

 

Charlie

 

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Just now, Terry_Reeves said:

Jules, do you have a date of birth for him please and also where he was educated? Thanks.

 

TR

His date of birth I don't know but was 1892. 

 

Family info: Son of Mr. F. H. Moore, of Messina Lodge, 8, Mayow Rd., Forest Hill, London. There was an older brother, Reginald who disappears from the records after the 1911 census. A sisters, Connie and Lenona and my grandfather Harry.

 

He was educated at Oundle School, who missed him off their war dead and it would appear Haberdashers too, although I only discovered that today.

 

Hope this helps

 

Jules

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52 minutes ago, charlie962 said:

LondonGazette 17/12/17 13173  wef 9/12/17 to be 2ndLt RGA (SR) from Officer Cadet Unit

 

His 1914 Medal Roll entry says he 're-enlisted' to Royal Engineers 2/9/1915 which fits with that 91649 number issue

 

Charlie

 

Thanks Charlie.

 

TR

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53 minutes ago, charlie962 said:

LondonGazette 17/12/17 13173  wef 9/12/17 to be 2ndLt RGA (SR) from Officer Cadet Unit

 

His 1914 Medal Roll entry says he 're-enlisted' to Royal Engineers 2/9/1915 which fits with that 91649 number issue

 

Charlie

 

Thank you.

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1 hour ago, Terry_Reeves said:

Thanks Jules. Much appreciated.

 

TR

This is the 1911 census. We think Reginald may have joined up too but he does not appear on any lists I have been able to find or war dead. There was a mention of a family member dying in training but again I am not sure where to look to find out more.

 

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3 hours ago, Terry_Reeves said:

Thanks Jules. Much appreciated.

 

TR

 

Think he was not at Haberdashers school but a member of the company of Haberdashers instead. Sorry for any confusion. This is all newish to me

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41 minutes ago, Jules M said:

Think he was not at Haberdashers school but a member of the company of Haberdashers instead. Sorry for any confusion. This is all newish to me

No worries Jules. I have had a quick look for Reginald but have had no luck. What is the name of the family member who may have died?
 

TR

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10 minutes ago, Terry_Reeves said:

No worries Jules. I have had a quick look for Reginald but have had no luck. What is the name of the family member who may have died?
 

TR

It is reginald who is the one that disappeared from records. 

 

I have spoken to my Dad who thinks he has copies of the national archives stuff but it doesn't tell us much more. The war diary for the 288th stops a few days before George was killed. He also thinks Reginald died of TB pre 1914 but was training for the army.

 

Do you know what George might have been involved with in the RE? My limited research suggests weapon development and possibly gas but am not sure

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Jules, the Special Brigade were Britain’s chemical warfare troops. They were founded to counter the German’s first use of gas in April 1915. The first troops were recruited in June/July 1915 , after letters were sent out to colleges and universities asking for men with experience in chemistry to enlist. There were four companies initially - 187 to 189. In February 1916 they were expanded into a brigade sized organisation eventually consisting of 5 Battalions.They released gas from cylinders, and operated Livens Projector No 5 Battalion operated the 4 inch Stokes mortars and Z Coy, initially operated flame projectors which were eventually abandoned. George was with a cylinder battalion which also operated  the Livens projectors from 1917 onwards.

 

TR

 

 

 

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Hi Jules,

 

16 hours ago, Jules M said:

The war diary for the 288th stops a few days before George was killed

 

On 1.2.1918  288 Siege Battery moved to become part of 19 Brigade Royal Garrison Artillery. Their war diary for March 1918 is available as a free download from here. George is mentioned.

 

Regards

Chris

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4 hours ago, clk said:

Hi Jules,

 

 

On 1.2.1918  288 Siege Battery moved to become part of 19 Brigade Royal Garrison Artillery. Their war diary for March 1918 is available as a free download from here. George is mentioned.

 

Regards

Chris

Many thanks. This is great to know.

 

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Terry. 

This is from the 4th Division Appendices 20/4/1918

1.45 p.m. 4th Div Order No 113 was issued for the 11th Bde to clear the southern portion of the Pacaut Wood the following morning and to establish themselves on the line of the La Pannerie-Riez Road. The attack to be accompanied by an intenst 18-pdr creeping barrage, with a heavy barrage on the north portion and selected localities. A projection of gas and burning oil was arranged for to be carried out by "G" Special Coy RE, the former only in the event of the wind being favourable for the discharge. Zero hour 5.15 a.m. The RE were to make bridges over the Canal at 36a.W.3.b.23.7. (50.577918, 2.616587 ) 36a.W.3.a.9.9. (50.581297, 2.614330 ) and 36a.Q.33.c.4.2. ( 50.582481, 2.611057 )

 

Mike

 

 

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1 hour ago, Skipman said:

Terry. 

This is from the 4th Division Appendices 20/4/1918

1.45 p.m. 4th Div Order No 113 was issued for the 11th Bde to clear the southern portion of the Pacaut Wood the following morning and to establish themselves on the line of the La Pannerie-Riez Road. The attack to be accompanied by an intenst 18-pdr creeping barrage, with a heavy barrage on the north portion and selected localities. A projection of gas and burning oil was arranged for to be carried out by "G" Special Coy RE, the former only in the event of the wind being favourable for the discharge. Zero hour 5.15 a.m. The RE were to make bridges over the Canal at 36a.W.3.b.23.7. (50.577918, 2.616587 ) 36a.W.3.a.9.9. (50.581297, 2.614330 ) and 36a.Q.33.c.4.2. ( 50.582481, 2.611057 )

 

Mike

 

 

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Thanks Mike.

 

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