Guest timberslad Posted 16 June , 2006 Share Posted 16 June , 2006 I am seeking any information on 230860 Corporal John Dutton Kings Shropshire Light Infantry. He was killed in action 21/09/1918 aged 23. He has no known grave, but is commemorated on Vis-En-Artois Memorial, Pas-De-Calais. From Soldiers died he was listed as being formally with The Cheshire Yeomanry before Amalgamation. Could anyone with the knowledge tell me anything else about this Soldier, where the action took place where he was killed, whether he would have been a pre-War Soldier and anything else that would enable our Family to gain the story behind him. Many thanks to all on the site, I look forward with baited breath to anyone's input Kindest Regards Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 16 June , 2006 Share Posted 16 June , 2006 Hi Geoff Going by John's Ches. Yeo. number I would think he enlisted once the war started but a Ches. Yeo. expert may say different. The 231st Brigade, to which the 10/K.S.L.I. belonged, attacked the Hindenburg line at Gillemont Farm, which was successfull execpt the Brigade failed to clear a strong post known as the Quadrilateral (not to be mixed up with the one on the Somme). The 10/K.S.L.I. set about the task of clearing the strong point, and met with severe opposition, supported by heavy German shellfire, the Battalion rallied and advanced again at about 1 a.m. on the 22nd and after desperate fighting the Quadrilateral was won. This info. is from the Regimental History but this same history also mentions the 1st Battalion of the 16th Brigade made attacks on the Quadrilateral, I have not yet done any work on this battle, so will need to get my maps outs and plot the moves of both battalions to see if they were attacking the same Quadrilateral (there being many Quadrilateral on the western front). I'll get back to you, then again someone else may answers this. Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian turner Posted 16 June , 2006 Share Posted 16 June , 2006 MIC: Description Medal card of Dutton, John Corps Regiment No Rank Cheshire Yeomanry 1388 Acting Corporal King's Shropshire Light Infantry 230860 Acting Corporal Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 16 June , 2006 Share Posted 16 June , 2006 Hi Geoff Just looked at maps in Official History, and they not the same one, the Quadrilateral attacked by the 10/K.S.L.I. is near Ronssoy. Also the Regimental History as got it wrong the 231st were not attacking the Hindenburg line itself but positions leading up to it. Also the Brigade was only successfull it the fact that it had captured its second objectives and Gillemont Farm did not fall until the 29th Sept. (27th American Div.). Did you know another Dutton of the 10/K.S.L.I. was also killed on the 21st -230784 Pte. Dutton, Fred Ivan, Born Hargreave. Resided Huxley. Formerly 1166 1/Ches. Yeo. Aged 22, Son of Frederick and Mary Dutton, of Castle View, Huxley, Chester. Buried in Unicorn Cemetery, Vendhuile, Aisne (IV. B. 4). Info. from Victory/British War Medal Roll, C.W.G.C. & Soldiers Died. Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest timberslad Posted 17 June , 2006 Share Posted 17 June , 2006 Hi Geoff Just looked at maps in Official History, and they not the same one, the Quadrilateral attacked by the 10/K.S.L.I. is near Ronssoy. Also the Regimental History as got it wrong the 231st were not attacking the Hindenburg line itself but positions leading up to it. Also the Brigade was only successfull it the fact that it had captured its second objectives and Gillemont Farm did not fall until the 29th Sept. (27th American Div.). Did you know another Dutton of the 10/K.S.L.I. was also killed on the 21st -230784 Pte. Dutton, Fred Ivan, Born Hargreave. Resided Huxley. Formerly 1166 1/Ches. Yeo. Aged 22, Son of Frederick and Mary Dutton, of Castle View, Huxley, Chester. Buried in Unicorn Cemetery, Vendhuile, Aisne (IV. B. 4). Info. from Victory/British War Medal Roll, C.W.G.C. & Soldiers Died. Annette Annette, many thanks for your reply, it makes for very interesting reading, and I wouldbe eternally grateful if you can gleen anymore information on John. As for Fred, Ivan, he must be a relative. It gives me so much more to go on for thr Family, as we only had limited information on John having his Memorial document, but nothing else to go by. We would love to know the where abouts of his medals and Death Plaque. Get them re-united in the Family once more, maybe you can help us on that score too. Again Anette, I appreciate your help so far, and look forward to anything else that you can come up with from your wealth of information. My kindest Regards Always Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 18 June , 2006 Share Posted 18 June , 2006 Hi Geoff I can't add any more info. on John but could give brief details of the 10/K.S.L.I.'s movements and battles from the Regimental History, I try and do it in the next couple of weeks, I have a couple of other things to do for other Pals first. As for John's medals and Death Plaque, you could try a post in the Sales-Wanted section, their are lots of medal & plaque collectors on the forum who may be help to help you there. Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccmedalman Posted 18 June , 2006 Share Posted 18 June , 2006 Pte 1388 J.Dutton is listed on the Nominal Roll of the Cheshire Yeomanry for March 1916. He was a member of No.4 Troop of "A"Squadron who were based at Knutsford, Cheshire. This roll was compiled prior to their embarkation for Egypt. Hope this is of interest. Regards Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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