DCM and Bar

[Muerrisch]

Medal experts, please:

simple question:

How does one recognise a DCM and Bar, compared with a DCM.

And what is the difference when only ribbons are worn: a silver rosette for each bar perhaps?

[simon2]

Grumpy,

DCM and bar has a silver,laurelled bar across the ribbon for all subsequent awards. Before 1916 this would have been just a date on the bar. I suppose similar to the QSA's bars.

[Muerrisch]

attached to the medal itself, please?

[simon2]

Attached to the medal across the ribbon similar to the 1914 star and clasp. The ribbon bar I'm not sure if a rosette is added I'm sure othermembers would know.

[Muerrisch]

now I am worried: the 14 star clasp is stitched in place [as issue] on to ribbon: are we saying the same for DCM ..... so it could be lost?

[PhilB]

Here`s a picture of a repro bar. Phil B

[eviltaxman]

Here's a pic of the DCM with bar. Notice the bar is a little way up the ribbon, but appears to have come away from the main suspender bar. I believe it was attached to the suspender like the QSA/KSA.......

Les

[simon2]

A picture of one belonging to an Australian soldier.

Capt. W.J.Rowlinson.

This is a DCM and Bar earned during the Korean war but I don't

think much changed in anything.

[Muerrisch]

many thanks to all: detached or detachable, certainly.

So where does one get a replacement for a lost bar?

[eviltaxman]

Grumps, try Dixons Medals. Their website is finally back up & running. Give 'em a ring or an e-mail. They managed to supply me with very good copies of some hard to get clasps for a QSA the other week.

Dixons

Les

[Steven Broomfield]

And coming back to the first question - a rosette on the ribbon indicating a bar, I think is the answer for when ribbons only are worn.

[HarryBettsMCDCM]

DCM:

The Laurel "Bar" was loose & mounted on the ribbon{it was a tight slide over fit~& often the ribbon was stiched above & below it to keep in place,it has tiny loop holes @ each end,top & bottom,up to 1917 Dated Bars were awarded these were mounted a la Campaign Medal Clasp;ie:directly to the suspension bar rod by large loops}

The Rose denoting a Bar was worn on the Ribbon Bar only & one would have been worn on the ribbon for each bar awarded{not that there were that many multiple bars~9 2nd Bars only;with 472 1st Bars}

The maximum number of Bars awarded to other WW1 awards are as follows:~

DSM 2

MC 3

DSC 2

DSO 3

CGM 1

MM 3

thus the winners of the three DSO & three MC & MM would wear three Roses on their Ribbon bar for that medal{they just fit}

A genuine replacement Laurel Bar will be an expensive commodity,as the Bar is universal to DCM,MM,DSM,CGM,MSM & as such is highly sought after,on occasion Liverpool Medals have had them,as have other dealers but the real McCoy end to be a bit like Hen's teeth,a copy/replica will probably be the easier option.

you could be cheeky & try the AMO

[simon2]

Thats cleared a few things up for me as well.

Thanks..

[Muerrisch]

Brilliant. Many thanks to all.