kaisersoffensive Posted 12 June , 2006 Share Posted 12 June , 2006 Hello I have always been most impressed by the depth of knowledge and help that i have received from members of this forum in the past. I should therefore be most grateful for any assistance with the following. I am trying to get some pictorial information of the Schwarben redoubt "the increidably tough nut to crack" which was one of the objectives of the Ulstermen on the fateful 1st of July. I read somewhere,but can't remember the source that in the November 1916 edition of the London Illustrated News there was a two page feature.This was a panoramic spread of an artist's impression of the capture of the redoubt.The artist i believe was called S.Begg. Has anyone seen this or can give me any help. As always many thanks. Bob Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph J. Whitehead Posted 12 June , 2006 Share Posted 12 June , 2006 I believe I have seen a copy of this scene, just let me think where. Currently all of my boks are packed in preparation for a move. If I do recall the name of the book I will post it here. It was in a paperback illustrated book on the war from the 1970's I believe. More to follow. Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaisersoffensive Posted 12 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 12 June , 2006 I believe I have seen a copy of this scene, just let me think where. Currently all of my boks are packed in preparation for a move. If I do recall the name of the book I will post it here. It was in a paperback illustrated book on the war from the 1970's I believe. More to follow. Ralph Many thanks Ralph for your response. Every good luck with your move! Regards, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egbert Posted 12 June , 2006 Share Posted 12 June , 2006 ....and a copy is pinned at the wall inside the cafe next to the Ulster tower... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burlington Posted 12 June , 2006 Share Posted 12 June , 2006 If you are thinking of this one, I have been told quite positively that it is NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egbert Posted 12 June , 2006 Share Posted 12 June , 2006 If you are thinking of this one, I have been told quite positively that it is NOT! .....maybe not anymore 2006 as Jack proofed it wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desmond7 Posted 12 June , 2006 Share Posted 12 June , 2006 I know of only ONE picture which shows men of the Ulster Division IN ACTION on or near to the redoubt on July 1. The picture shows men of the 14th Royal Irish Rifles (YCVs) advancing towards the 'German third line' It is part of a collection of photos taken by a keen photographer who was a member of the YCVs. He kept a diary and an album of pictures. I was privileged to see this picture collection which is thoroughly captioned and in superb condition. The person who has this album has been made aware of its historical significance and perhaps some day the pictures will appear in a publication. They deserve to be seen. With regards to the redoubt illustration - I do remember a coffee table style book which had an artist's impression of the Ulster Div attack on 1st July. It was one of those two page spreads with annotations from particular scenes to explanatory text. I wish I'd bought that book now ... for the life of me I cannot remember its name. There is also a 'very fanciful' depiction of the redoubt in a number of publications - all of them quite rightly make it plain that these depictions of massive underground hospitals/storage areas etc are pretty far fetched. All my reading and questioning causes me to believe that the redoubt was indeed a superbly sited position featuring deep dug outs, trenches, machine gun posts and general fire points worthy of the best German engineering. Des Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaisersoffensive Posted 12 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 12 June , 2006 I know of only ONE picture which shows men of the Ulster Division IN ACTION on or near to the redoubt on July 1. The picture shows men of the 14th Royal Irish Rifles (YCVs) advancing towards the 'German third line' It is part of a collection of photos taken by a keen photographer who was a member of the YCVs. He kept a diary and an album of pictures. I was privileged to see this picture collection which is thoroughly captioned and in superb condition. The person who has this album has been made aware of its historical significance and perhaps some day the pictures will appear in a publication. They deserve to be seen. With regards to the redoubt illustration - I do remember a coffee table style book which had an artist's impression of the Ulster Div attack on 1st July. It was one of those two page spreads with annotations from particular scenes to explanatory text. I wish I'd bought that book now ... for the life of me I cannot remember its name. Many thanks for your reply. Much appreciated. Regards, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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