manchester regiment Posted 10 June , 2006 Share Posted 10 June , 2006 a cablegram to marple on saturday conveyed the news that sgt arthur hays C.coy,6th manchesters has died in hospital,sgt hays who was the platoon commander took part in the great charge by the 6th manchesters on june 4th,he and his comrades cleared the turks out of 3 trenches and were advancing on the 4th when he was wounded in the forehead,its believed he was hit with an explosive bullet which shot part of his head away,he and sgt/maj hurdley who were great friends were charging togethor,both were tall men,both were hit in the forehead and fell,sgt hayes succumbed to his wounds,but sgt/maj hurdley is progressing towards recovery,its thought that he was hit by an ordinary service bullet,he was conveyed to the 1st australian general hospital at heliopolis near cairo,arthur hayes was found in a field by australian soldiers,C.coy were virtually wiped out having found it virtually impossible to retreat.MR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 17 June , 2006 Share Posted 17 June , 2006 MR I never cease to be amazed by the coincidences that crop up on this Forum. It is only a couple of weeks back that I was contacted by descendent of CSM Hurdley. He had indentified Hurdley from a description of him in an article I had written about the man who carried him to the dressing station. The article is at http://www.hellfire-corner.demon.co.uk/worthington.htm. However, I hadnt realised that Arthur Hayes (not Hays) was from Marple and will be one of my researchees when I start looking at Stockport's Manchesters sometime next year. Could you please let me have the source of your information - it reads like perhaps a newspaper report? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 17 June , 2006 Share Posted 17 June , 2006 Hi John Have you been a sleep again, it must be your age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchester regiment Posted 18 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 18 June , 2006 sergeant william hayes C.coy 6th manchesters age 32 No 88 dow 8-7-1915 from wounds received on 4-6-1915 born manchester enlisted manchester son of late william,henry and annie hayes husband of edith,rosebank,crosby,isle of man. arthur became a marple resident in 1905,a popular and respected member of the community,he played lacrosse for the marple 1st team and was a keen cricketer,when war broke out he had already served 10 years as a territorial,he received his long service medal in 1913 and wore three stars on his cuff each star denoting 3 years service,he was promoted serjeant in 1912. he lived at 10 haydn terrace,church lane,marple. the 6th manchesters had regular copies of the north cheshire herald sent to them while in egypt and gallipoli. carlos bates who was also killed on gallipoli was a neighbour of sgt hayes,living at No 20 church lane,he was killed by a sniper while binding the wounds of a mate,the turks had resorted to reversing the bullet in the casing so as to inflict a large wound,this is what probably killed sgt hayes,MR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchester regiment Posted 18 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 18 June , 2006 MR I never cease to be amazed by the coincidences that crop up on this Forum. It is only a couple of weeks back that I was contacted by descendent of CSM Hurdley. He had indentified Hurdley from a description of him in an article I had written about the man who carried him to the dressing station. The article is at http://www.hellfire-corner.demon.co.uk/worthington.htm. However, I hadnt realised that Arthur Hayes (not Hays) was from Marple and will be one of my researchees when I start looking at Stockport's Manchesters sometime next year. Could you please let me have the source of your information - it reads like perhaps a newspaper report? John with regard to the officer that was supposedly killed,but not mentioned in the war diary,its very likely that it was capt oswald carver,he was badly wounded on that day and died on the 7th,capt carver 428th field coy RE was instructed to consolidate and strengthen the captured turkish trenches taken by the 6th manchesters,some men from C.coy were placed under his command for this work,carlos bates and arthur stott,both from marple were two of these soldiers,MR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 18 June , 2006 Share Posted 18 June , 2006 MR It's possible the officer was Carver, although 6/Manc suffered heavy officer casualties on the day. As I suspect you already know, Charles (Carlos) Bates was KIA on 7 August. William Arthur Stott was KIA with 11/Manc on 11 August 1917. I'm interested in your sources here. It seems to be something other than the Marple war memorial book "Remembered". You possibly know that I'm researching all the men commemorated on the Borough's memorials and displaying the results on my website. In the case of the men who have already been researched for books (Hazel Grove & Marple area) or for my website about the Cheadle area men, I am relying heavily on the previous work (and , of course, giving appropriate acknowledgement). I do hope to include new information that has become available to researchers since the original works, so would welcome any more that you have. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 18 June , 2006 Share Posted 18 June , 2006 Roy Nah. Not asleep. Been away on hols. Hope your house move went well. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchester regiment Posted 18 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 18 June , 2006 L/cpl francis,edwin peake age 25 17727 20th manchesters 11 cambridge st,heaton chapel worked for j+d williams,china lane m/c married L/cpl charles,edwin foulkes age 27 19387 21st manchesters 11 cambridge st,heaton chapel worked for d.h blagg and sons of heaton chapel for 13 years parents.charles,edwin and elizabeth,ann machine gun section died of wounds [shrapnel] L/cpl thomas clayton age 43 13299 11th manchesters 15 lincoln st,portwood,stockport worked at palmer mills pte arthur adams age 28 21st manchesters tindall st,stockport worked at the reddish branch of t.seymour mead 18776 pte arthur gaskell age 30 12th manchesters 4086 enl aug 1914 hart st,stockport with his wife and 2 children worked at harrisons brickyard,levenshulme pte george,arthur bailey 20th manchesters 47 frances st,cheadle,with his wife and 3 children 26240 worked at the clay bleach works,cheadle is denton one of your areas of research MR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 18 June , 2006 Share Posted 18 June , 2006 Denton is just outside my research patch, being in Tameside. I've already "done" George Bailey as part of my original project. His story is here John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchester regiment Posted 20 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 20 June , 2006 private isaac,edwin matkin 17971 20th manchesters D.coy age 23 parents.john,henry and margaret,40 east st,king st west,stockport. isaac lived at 45 bann st,king st west,stockport he enlisted in october 1914 worked as a piecer at the reddish spinning company. member of st.peters church and their lads brigade he was mortally wounded by a shell,and died 20min later. pte james,simon jones 51112 17th manchesters age 22 CWGC says his mother elizabeth was living at 12 bridge st,lampeter,cardiganshire he lived at 6 stanley ave,hazel grove he was reported missing on 30-3-1918,later confirmed he died on this date. MR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchester regiment Posted 20 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 20 June , 2006 lance corporal sidney heydon 6th manchesters 2142 age 26 lived."ebor"kennerley rd,stockport played lacrosse for stockport,the north of england and england. secretary and treasurer of cheshire lacrosse association affectionally known to his family and friends as cider. he was last seen in the turks 3rd line trenches bandaging a mate,his brother frank was shot in the arm in the same attack,frank went on to become a lieutenant in the lancashire fusiliers,his other brother arthur was also wounded and shipped to hospital at malta then to devonport military hospital he also became a lieutenant serving with the manchesters franks number 2170 arthurs number 2169 sidney was educated at stockport commercial school MR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchester regiment Posted 20 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 20 June , 2006 private edward,overall bleackley 6th manchesters 1977 age 18 died of wounds at 13th general hospital,alexandria his brother private 2131 harry,roberts bleackley was evacuated to malta after being wounded in the foot.he went on to serve in the RE pte 208888. they were two of nine children to harry and esther roberts bleackley of cheadle hulme. their father was a cotton spinners manufacturers agent who originally lived at 18 lower albert st,barton upon irwell before he was married,after marrying esther,they moved around,living in eccles,pendleton and worsley[where edward was born]eventually moving to wilmslow and lastly to cheadle hulme. edward died of a gunshot wound to the head. wounded in the same attack were ptes walter rodgers devonshire cottage,disley shrapnel wound to the head age 19,horace whittaker shot in the leg,h.richardson,shot in the stomach,john bullock,coppice cottage,disley,walter arnold,lea cottage,disley[brother died in training in 1915] MR walter arnold returned to gallipoli and was killed on 7-8-15,his brother reg died in training with the norfolk regt,and is buried at disley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 20 June , 2006 Share Posted 20 June , 2006 MR Thanks again. I'm more than happy for you to send me this info via email or the Personal message system, so as not to clog up the Forum, if that's as easy for you. Edward Bleackley is one of my "original website" researchees. His story is here John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchester regiment Posted 21 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 21 June , 2006 pte robert,beresford hind 1544 6th manchesters D,company stretcher bearer age 21 kia 11-12-15 son of robert,anderson and sarah hind,149 cheadle old rd,cheadle worked as a clerk for the scottish widows assurance co,in their manchester offices born 24-4-1894 educated at victoria park council school where he won a scholarship to manchester grammar from 1908-1911. its very likely that he would have been offered a commission if he hadnt died at gallipoli theres a special memorial to him in twelve trees copse cemetary.C.326 sgt george kinsey gresty 20427 22nd manchesters D.coy. age 25 51 hardcastle rd,edgeley,stockport assistant manager of the maypole dairy,longsight secretary of the mens meeting at st.thomas church,stockport he was killed when a heavy shell dropped on him,which killed 2 lance corporals who he was talking to,one was Lcpl john,edmund helliwell,bernard hasnt got the name of the other man MR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchester regiment Posted 21 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 21 June , 2006 sgt arthur ireland 5970 12th manchesters age 38 volunteered sept 1914 previously served 3 years with coldstream guards worked for messrs clays bleach works lived with his wife mary,ann and their 3 children at 39 andrew st,cheadle,his wife and family moved back to his native town of bolton afterwards,his parents james and mary being residents of bolton. he was invalided home with broken health after being gassed,but due to complications he died in lincoln hospital,he was buried in cheadle and gatley cemetary with military honours on 17-10-1916 hes not on stockport memorial??? MR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 21 June , 2006 Share Posted 21 June , 2006 Thanks again, Sue. Arthur Ireland is another of my original lot and is remembered just down the road from me on the Cheadle Memorial. George Gresty is on the Stockport one. But Hind doesnt feature anywhere locally. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchester regiment Posted 21 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 21 June , 2006 john,i have set myself up another e.address so i will let the grumpy git have this one,not that he spends much time on here,he is always rooting in old papers at the library,my house is full of newspaper pages and hundreds of lists of dead people from the war,sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 21 June , 2006 Share Posted 21 June , 2006 my house is full of newspaper pages and hundreds of lists of dead people from the war And your problem is? So, are you saying that "Manchester Terrier" is going to become the Pal Formerly Known As BernardMc? Or are you sticking around as well? John (PS: my partner says I spend too much time thinking about folk long dead and not enough about the living. Surely it's a joke. Innit?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchester regiment Posted 21 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 21 June , 2006 john,shes now banned to the attic,for someone who thinks war is boring she stayed on here long enough,bernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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