Coldstreamer Posted 8 June , 2006 Share Posted 8 June , 2006 Hello After a big favour. Could some one please look up a CSM W J Black - 7846 - Coldstream Gds - in the Brighton newspapers He was deocorated with a MM, twice MID and killed in action. I suspect he should get a mention somewhere in the papers, His name is on the Brighton war memorial but was added at the bottom (later addition?) If this is possible, I will post the dates of the decorations etc (killed February 1918) to narrow down the search Thanks in advance Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkokcl Posted 8 June , 2006 Share Posted 8 June , 2006 I'm sitting at my desk in the centre of Brighton with the museum visible out of one window and the library out of the other. Tell me more...... Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 10 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 10 June , 2006 Hello Thanks very much -its greatly appreciated Here are all the details I have - please let me know if I owe you any photocopying costs (thats if he's there) Ian Company Sergeant Major W J Black 7846 Coldstream Guards William James Black was born in St. Bartholomew, Sussex and enlisted in Brighton. He went to France on the 12th August 1914. His first Mention in Despatches was whilst a Sergeant in Field Marshall French’s of the 17th February 1915 for “...gallant and distinguished services in the field”. This was with the 2nd Btn. The second mention was in Field Marshall Haig’s despatch on the 15th June 1916, possibly with the 4th Btn. He was awarded the Military Medal with the 4th Battalion (for France as CSMjr 4/C.GDS) and was gazetted 27th October 1916 He died on the 5th February 1918 whilst Acting Drill Sergeant and is buried in Quatre-Vents Military Cemetery, Estree-Cauchy, Pas de Calais, France, grave number III.C.1. (I have a picture) The war diary for the 9th February 1918 says “news received of the death of Drill Sergeant WJ Black MM (No 2 Coy).” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkokcl Posted 10 June , 2006 Share Posted 10 June , 2006 No probs - I'll try and have a look next week in my lunch hour. Can you guide me as to what i'm looking for,as I have little experience of look-ups in papers? Going by the dates above, when should I look? -assuming there's a gap between the events and when they'll make it in to the paper. Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Nixon Posted 10 June , 2006 Share Posted 10 June , 2006 Ian You probably know this already, but with that number he would have enlisted in 1908 - After April that year is as close as I can get from the information on my database. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 10 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 10 June , 2006 Paul Someone else with a CG data base! Mine indicates joined 16-20 May 1908 so we are in agreement I will send you a PM about data bases to keep this thread nice and tidy! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 10 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 10 June , 2006 Mark I will reply in full later as got to go out now in time for the football as things to do before hand and been on the forum all morning! Cheers Ian No probs - I'll try and have a look next week in my lunch hour. Can you guide me as to what i'm looking for,as I have little experience of look-ups in papers? Going by the dates above, when should I look? -assuming there's a gap between the events and when they'll make it in to the paper. Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Nixon Posted 10 June , 2006 Share Posted 10 June , 2006 Ian I'm sure mine is a lot smaller than yours! Nevertheless I may have some dates to help you fill in gaps. Cheers Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 10 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 10 June , 2006 Hello as he died and is buried, I would expect him to be in the paper a week from his death to a month or so - it can be longer but pls dont spend hours searching - when I search papers I just look at all the photos of soldiers first as I scan the fiche as its quite a lot easier that way than reading it all The MM was probably for September 1916 so any time after that. Its hard to generalize as it varys so much Cheers Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkokcl Posted 10 June , 2006 Share Posted 10 June , 2006 Ian, I'll give it a go and see what I can find: will let you know how I get on, Mark (Hoping to have a look next week) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 10 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 10 June , 2006 Hello anything you can do is appreciated Good luck Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkokcl Posted 29 June , 2006 Share Posted 29 June , 2006 No luck yet but i've only had limited time in Brighton archives to look. I'll keep going and hopefully report a 'find' in due course...... Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 30 June , 2006 Author Share Posted 30 June , 2006 Hello Thanks for what youve done so far.... Ian No luck yet but i've only had limited time in Brighton archives to look. I'll keep going and hopefully report a 'find' in due course...... Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 5 July , 2006 Author Share Posted 5 July , 2006 Hello I read his papers yesterday. The reason I think I am not having much luck is that he committed suicide - probably explains the lack of story in the papers and why his name was added later to the war memorial in Brighton A sad end for a thrice decorated SNCO Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkokcl Posted 8 July , 2006 Share Posted 8 July , 2006 Ian, A sad story by the sound of it. Don't give up all hope though as i'll do a bit more digging in the archives when I get a minute. You never know......... Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 8 July , 2006 Author Share Posted 8 July , 2006 mark thanks. I think you might have more luck with the gallanty awards - as his name was added later on, due to the circumstances I cant see the family wanting to put how he died in the paper Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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