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Thanks John.

Yes this thread has gone quiet since it moved but the other RAMC thread has suddenly come back to life in Units and Formations.

John, do you have any information about Henry Joseph Milligan? He lived in Dunbarton and there was a reference to Edinburgh so chances are he enlisted there. Information I have found so far is Commissioned t/Lieut 15th February 1915, t/Capt 15th Feb 1916, a/Maj 11th June 1918 and he was awarded MC plus bar, gazetted 1 June 1917 and 3rd June 1919 but neither have citations. I have been talking to his son who wants to find out as much information about his father as possible. His father died when he was in his teens so didn't talk to him about his time during the war.

Cheers

Barbara

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For anyone else interested in War Diaries of the No 1 FA please take a look at http://members.shaw.ca/jharrop where I am now posting them rather than clogging up peoples e-mail.

The site is really base bones. I'd rather spend time working on the material right now rather than looks.

I have all of the Nos 1 and 141 Field Ambulance diaries scanned into pdf. If there is interest in particular months I can post those too. When I asked NA they did not seem too concerned about transcriptions at all or limited distribution of the scanned docs as pdfs.

Cheers,

John Harrop

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John.

I tried clicking the Link (just to have a Browse, & it took me to a Yahoo Login Page!

I don't Use Yahoo because when I was a registered Member Years ago on their Genealogy section, I used to get My Mail box Full of Spam & Porn, just took a look at their current Genealogy pages (Full of Porn Still!). :angry:

So, could I trouble You for a Look Up (or pdf) for the 98thFA (My Grandfather Peter HURST served as Pte in this reg. 1915-1818). :)

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I've added a transcription of 141 FA for April 1918. Many of the 141 FA months are typed, but this one is not. The event that is of greatest note is that on 9 April Pte R Masters ASC earned a VC evacuating wounded across no-mans-land in an Motor Ambulance Car. That date has a significant spike in the wounded received - 251!

This is the first month of 141 FA I have posted. All other ones (and there are a lot to go still) are 1 FA. Both are 1st Division.

Barbara, the 141 FA was very good about recording info with names, including ORs of the unit who were admitted to the hospital. Would it be useful to you to have the pdf of typewritten months posted? I would like to get to them for transcription eventually so everything is in the same format, but for now they are easily read compared to handwritten.

Of course if anyone else wants to see or transcribe pdfs ;-) please let me know!

John

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Thanks fo Pegasus for noting the link problem. There was a typo, but I fixed it and tested the link - like I should have done first time!

It works now.

John

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Thanks fo Pegasus for noting the link problem. There was a typo, but I fixed it and tested the link - like I should have done first time!

It works now.

John

Thank You John!

I will try the link again Now!

P.S.

Ignore My P.M. (Fog Clearing Now!) B)

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Barbara, the 141 FA was very good about recording info with names, including ORs of the unit who were admitted to the hospital. Would it be useful to you to have the pdf of typewritten months posted? I would like to get to them for transcription eventually so everything is in the same format, but for now they are easily read compared to handwritten.

John

Thanks John. I have managed to get access to your website ok, so am happy to download the info from there if it is easier for you if I do it that way. I haven't downloaded any info as yet but can email you when I do and if I have any problems.

I am not in any rush as I have other sources which I am working on at the moment, so I am happy to wait until you have transcribed them.

Barbara

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Hi Barbara

I wonder if the attached image is of interest? It shows 'the outlook from the kraal [at 18 CCS, Malassises] on the road to Blendecques'. There are more like it, portraits and landscapes, in my grandfather's sketchbook, some in watercolour, others in pencil.

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Captain F L Rigby (1876-1933) had been a GP in Preston and joined up in 1915. We know nothing about his experiences in the army, except for the captions of these sketches. He seems to have been in 18 CCS in early 1918, possibly then in 95th DSO (or maybe co-located with them) and posted to 12th Royal Scots Fusiliers when they arrived in France from the Middle East in May of that year. Do you have any detail that would expand or enlarge on this? Or can you suggest where to look?

I could post a selection of pictures, if they are of interest.

Best regards

Robin

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Hello Robin

Thank you for posting the picture. I am definately interested, as others will be I'm sure, if you are happy to share your grandfather's sketchbook.

No 18 CCS was at Malassise from 29/4/18 - 6/11/18. The war diary for the 18th CCS is at the National Archive, Ref WO95/344. This will give you some insight as to what was happening there around that time.

I do not recognise 95th DSO. Do you mean 95th Field Ambulance? If so, I have some information which I can send to you.

Barbara

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BJay , thought you might like to see the stain glass window from my local church, paid for by the RAMC men stationed there in WW2, the flag hangs just out of shot.

John

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Thanks John. I think it looks really stunning. Have you seen the RAMC glass stain window at St Georges church, Ypres, or a picture of it?

Just out of interest, do you know what the windows represent either side?

Barbara

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Had to ask my dad this one Bjay but the 3 panes are one scene - St. Cosmas and St. Damian were brother physicians who were martyred around 303 A.D. According to ancient documents his tomb is at Cyrrhus in Syria along with St. Damian. There a Basilica was built there in their honour. St. Cosmas is the Patron of Barbers, the Blind, Druggists, Pharmacists, Physicians, and Surgeons. :blink:

The Crosses of St George and St Andrew represent the men of England and Scotland serving as brothers , like St Damian and St Cosmas.

And finally, no I haven't seen the window at Ypres but I am led to believe it is a beautiful sight.

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Thats really interesting, I'ld like to learn more about that. There is so much to learn :wacko:

I am presuming now that you have an interest in this sort of info, I have a couple of photos of medical signs, 1000 BC from Turkey. I also have photo of a memorial to NCO's and Privates of 1st Batt Seaforth Highlanders 1897 which may interest you. I'll email them to you along with a photo of the RAMC glass stained window, St Georges, Ypres.

I would post them here but I haven't tried to do that yet, too busy trying to build a website with database.

Cheers

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Hi

I'm interested in finding out anything about my wife's GGF: Ernest George Arthur FLITTON. Regiment No: T3/028887

I have attached details of his service record but would like to know what he might have been involved in France and Salonika

26 Nov 1914 ... Enlisted at Woolwich with the Royal Army Service Corp (RASC) as Driver (Horse)

18 Sep 1915 ... Embarked Southampton

19 Sep 1915 ... Disembarked Le Harve, France. Posted to AHTD.

23 Nov 1915 ... Attd 66th Field Ambulance. Embarked 'Indian' Marseilles

10 Dec 1915 ... Disembarked Salonika... 66th Field Ambulance ... Attd to the 20th Division

21 Jan 1919 ... Invalided to UK from Malta per HS Wandilla (Pneumonia/Malaria

Could anyone tell me about the 66th Field Ambulance and/or the 20th Division and their movements in Salonika?

Ray

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hi

Could I ask if you would know whether a surgeon /Dr Lt Arthur Clarence Dixon is anywhere on your lists.I have some documents refering to him. It gives his address in walsall in Dec 1916 and a ref which from your thread seems common 24/B/350. then his renewal of contract in July 1917 . Apparently the pay was 24 shillings a day with a gratuity of £60 on completion of his contract

Regards

David Gee

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Hello Robin

Thank you for posting the picture. I am definately interested, as others will be I'm sure, if you are happy to share your grandfather's sketchbook.

No 18 CCS was at Malassise from 29/4/18 - 6/11/18. The war diary for the 18th CCS is at the National Archive, Ref WO95/344. This will give you some insight as to what was happening there around that time.

I do not recognise 95th DSO. Do you mean 95th Field Ambulance? If so, I have some information which I can send to you.

Barbara

Barbara

Robin posted more of his Grandfathers sketches on our Regimental Forum in April 2007, I've attached a link to the area where they can be viewed.... was thinking of posting them onto the War Art section of this Forum, but didn't want to steal Robin's thunder

http://www.rhf.org.uk/Newforum/phpBB2/view...;highlight=12th

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I thought this old thread had long gone. Just noticed it because I am following the American thread, which has recently been moved to Classics.

Thanks for the link, Sandy, it's good to see the drawings. The ones of the RAPs are interesting because they may give some idea of where they were. I will add a link to the Regimental Forum and have a read through.

Cheers

Barbara

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It may be old to you but it's new to me!

My great uncle James Hollinhurst Clayton was a dentist in Blackburn who served 1917-1919 in India with the RAMC. No: 85758

Why would a dentist from Blackburn end up as a Private, in India?

Also from his medal card he appears to have returned his medals and then claimed them again in 1982. Could some-one confirm this for me??

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Dear B Jay

Does your database have any references to my uncle Captain Cyril Henry Edwards RAMC in the Great War?

The only information I have is;

Listed in 1911 Census as a medical student aged 20.

Attended St Pauls School circa 1904/1909

Qualified as a doctor at Guy`Hospital

Commonwealth War Graves Commission records him as Edwards C H Captain RAMC died 27th August 1920, buried Peterculter New Burial Ground Aberdeen.

I seem to come to a dead end every time I try to elicit more from any source. I would be grateful for any info or source which would shed some light on the war service of this young doctor who after qualifying must have spent the rest of his short life in the RAMC

Tony Edwards

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Hello Tony

Sorry for the delay in responding, I do not look into the forum very often these days. I hope you are still looking in.

I have a doctor listed by the name of Edwards, C H who qualified at Guys and became a temporary Capt within the RAMC, it states he served at the War Hospital in Norbury.

I hope this is the same doctor and that this helps.

Barbara

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Hello Tony

Sorry for the delay in responding, I do not look into the forum very often these days. I hope you are still looking in.

I have a doctor listed by the name of Edwards, C H who qualified at Guys and became a temporary Capt within the RAMC, it states he served at the War Hospital in Norbury.

I hope this is the same doctor and that this helps.

Barbara

Thanks Barbara.That is my uncle C.H.Edwards.Would you have any info on the War Hospital Norbury or the sort of work he might of been doing there. I would be glad of your thoughts.

Regards

Tony

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I have managed to find out a little more about your uncle, it appears he was a dental surgeon. He qualified L.D.S. R.C.P. in 1913, and M.B.B.S., M.R.C.S., L.R.C.PL in 1915. His address was in West Kensington.

Norbury War Hospital is not on the comprehensive list my father compiled on the Military and War Hospitals in the UK. Norbury is local to me and my father did some intense research on the local hospitals, affiliated hospitals etc and where they might have been during the war. I have looked through his notes and the only reference to the area of Norbury is Norbury Hill House but there is a question mark next to it. I can only assume that he found a reference to it but couldn't find any further information.

Ecclesbourne Road Secondary School was a Military Hospital during the war, this became Bensham Manor Special School after the war and was on the border of Norbury/Thornton Heath, so it could be this hospital. It might be worth contacting the Local History Section of Croydon Library, I have been there a few times and the staff are extremely knowledgeable and helpful.

If you would like a copy of the information I've found, let me know and I will scan them for you.

Barbara

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I have managed to find out a little more about your uncle, it appears he was a dental surgeon. He qualified L.D.S. R.C.P. in 1913, and M.B.B.S., M.R.C.S., L.R.C.PL in 1915. His address was in West Kensington.

Norbury War Hospital is not on the comprehensive list my father compiled on the Military and War Hospitals in the UK. Norbury is local to me and my father did some intense research on the local hospitals, affiliated hospitals etc and where they might have been during the war. I have looked through his notes and the only reference to the area of Norbury is Norbury Hill House but there is a question mark next to it. I can only assume that he found a reference to it but couldn't find any further information.

Ecclesbourne Road Secondary School was a Military Hospital during the war, this became Bensham Manor Special School after the war and was on the border of Norbury/Thornton Heath, so it could be this hospital. It might be worth contacting the Local History Section of Croydon Library, I have been there a few times and the staff are extremely knowledgeable and helpful.

If you would like a copy of the information I've found, let me know and I will scan them for you.

Barbara

Dear Barbara

Thanks for the info on my uncle Captain C.H. Edwards

I did not know he was a dental surgeon!

Family lore from my parents,now long gone,indicated that he was a surgeon so I assumed he was a doctor/surgeon.One lives and learns.He was listed RAMC because the RADC was not formed until 1921,after his death.

He had a lot of qualifications.some of which seem medical.He was listed in the 1911 Household Census as a medical student aged 20,so assuming he went to Guys at 18 {1909} it was 6 years to his last degree in 1915. Anyhow I can try and check this out with Guys records The W Kensington address checks with the census.

I came by some info which may be relevant to your late father"s research into war hospitals.The Imperial War Museum has a watercolour in its Concise Art Collection by Dorothy J Coke entitled;

"War allotments in a London Suburb.In the background is the County Council School at Norbury

used as a Military Hospital".

It shows a group of women and war wounded soldiers tending vegetables in allotments.The hospital buildings are clearly on a hill. It can be viewed on "www.vads.ac.uk"_search for Dorothy J Coke.

As you sgggest I shall try Croydon Library about Norbury.

I really am most grateful for all your help and would like to take you up on your kind offer to scan relevant informationto me.

Regards

Tony

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I came by some info which may be relevant to your late father"s research into war hospitals.The Imperial War Museum has a watercolour in its Concise Art Collection by Dorothy J Coke entitled;

"War allotments in a London Suburb.In the background is the County Council School at Norbury

used as a Military Hospital".

It shows a group of women and war wounded soldiers tending vegetables in allotments.The hospital buildings are clearly on a hill. It can be viewed on "www.vads.ac.uk"_search for Dorothy J Coke.

This is brilliant, thanks for posting the link. I will add the hospital to Dad's list and I have bookmarked the page so that I can look into the hospital locally.

I will send a PM with my email address so I can send you the scans.

All the best

Barbara

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