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Sherwood Forester Enlistment Date Database


Andrew Hesketh

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Steve - thanks for filling in the details

Andrew - a run on Buxtons today :)

9647 John Ernest Buxton enlisted SF 29.11.04

12232 Arthur Buxton enlisted SF 21.4.14

18226 Benjamin Buxton enlisted SF 26.10.14

27210 Arthur Buxton enlisted SF 12.6.15

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Steve - thanks for filling in the details

Just found bit I was looking for -

His mitigation -

3 years 6 months service

Dardenelles about Oct 15'

Went home with dysentry about Jan 1916.

Came to france in Dec 16.

Been out ever since.

In action - Wytscheate. Messines. Ypres (he is noted as taking part in Messines and Poelcappelle 1917)

26 years old.

stevem

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and Balls.......... :rolleyes:

5773 Charles Ball enlisted 3rd January 1898 into Derbyshire Regiment (how cool is that B) )

7109 Walter Ball enlisted SF 2.9.14

19196 John Ball enlisted SF 11.11.14

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I may prove my ignorance here (again) but I recall that some records show a date for attesting and some for enlisting. Is it possible that you or I am confusing attesting dates for enlistment dates (sometimes) and this is throwing out your logic thread when tracking down possible dates?

Dave - you are quite right and, as I'm heavily reliant on peoples input (as well as my own 'stuff' and Silver war Badge data), I'm sure that there will be errors in my spreadsheet and, indeed, I do have several anomalies. However, generally speaking, the pattern is pretty good. Sadly, the 51 series remains truly Pedigree Chum! :blink:

I do intend to present the data on my website, but I'm not confident enough of it in ceratin areas to do so just yet.

Steve / Mike - once again, thanks for adding to my collection.

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7109 Walter Ball enlisted SF 2.9.14

A re-enlistment date? That number should be 1901-1902. :unsure:

Virtually all the rest slide in very smoothly. :)

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Dave - to give a fuller picture than the one earlier. Here's all my September 1914 enlistments for the non-territorials.

You'll see a number of anomalies. The reasons could be many, including the one you offered, dodgy data, and the fact that volunteers were obviously pouring in (2,000 that month alone) so there were bound to be errors in the first place. Regardless, it is still a fairly robust data collection that allows for reasonably informed guesstimates of the enlistment dates of other numbers.

Number Year/Month/Day Battalion Surname

15608 1914, 09, 05 11th Cudworth

15679 1914, 09, 07 Cuerton

15749 1914, 09, ?? 11th Hamilton

15794 1914, 09, ?? 10th Keeling

15891 1914, 08, ?? 12th Cooke

15920 1914, 09, ?? 10th Ridley

16022 1914, 09, 07 11th Walmsley

16103 1914, 09, 07 Rawson

16148 1914, 09, 08 11th Ceney

16187 1914, 09, 08 Wint

16191 1914, 09, 08 11th Todd E

16193 1914, 09, 08 11th Whyman G T

16237 1914, 09, 14 11th Percival

16257 1914, 09, 12 Thrall

16290 1914, 10, ?? 11th Baldwin

16304 1914, 08, 05 11th Massey

16346 1914, 09, 05 11th Hall

16359 1914, 09, 07 Fern

16363 1914, 09, ?? 11th Baugh S J

16364 1914, 09, ?? 11th Bailey

16554 1914, 09, 09 11th Caunt

16626 1914, 09, 11 Goucher

16638 1914, 09, 12 12th Ward

16835 12th Davidson

16949 1914, 09, 12 12th Garner

16987 1914, 09, ?? 11th Fowles

16988 1914, 09, ?? 11th Kemp J J - C Coy

17059 1914, 09, 23 Sanders

17062 10th Bloor

17086 1914, 09, 23 May

17111 1914, 09, 24 Whitehead

17202 10th Bloor

17209 1914, 09, ?? 10th Calladine

17257 1914, 09, 24 Caldwell

17338 1914, 09, ?? 11th Swinscoe

17504 1914, 09, 25 Attenborough

17510 1914, 09, 25 Hodgkinson

17583 1914, 09, 26 Bell

17584 1914, 09, ?? Charlton

17618 1914, 09, 25 Offiler

17645 1914, 09, ?? 10th Roddie

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Andrew, that’s a great data set B)

even accounting for the odd anomalies, which are bound to occur when you are collating some many data points (from different sources).

By just concentrating on one Battn (the glorious 6th :P ) I’ve picked up numerous mistakes/anomalies/typos/etc. You have to identify and go with the trends…….

So to your previous question regarding Private Ball. You might be right. I have enclosed top and bottom of his Attestation Sheet. Why the Reservists? Perhaps he enlisted few years before?

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Sorry for the size of the image. I've just changed PC and moved from Adobe Photoshop :) to Abode Photo Elements :angry: .....and don't know how to drive it yet :(

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Thank you Mike. I'll e-mail you the full spreadsheet as it stands.

By the way, welcome to the Skindles Club!

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Andrew, are you in need of more of the 'old fellas' ?

251 William Brown enlisted Derbyshire Regt (Sherwood Foresters) 16.3.82

3504 Thomas Lyman enlisted Derbyshire Regt (Sherwood Foresters) 17.2.92

4583 Joseph Buckley enlisted Derbyshire Regt (Sherwood Foresters) 17.2.94

Do they fit the scheme? I can get more of pension records if they are of use

Mike

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  • 2 weeks later...

I have just discovered that I had another relative in the Sherwoods: 125252 Private Thomas Lissemore. Any clues as to which Battalion? His medal index card also shows (the line above) South Staffordshire Regiment 240983. Is this a later transfer? Why is this likely to have happened.

Regards

Dave

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henry baddeley mic pte 23420, theatre 2B / Balkans, date on entry 31/12/15. dow 19/8/17 10th batt

previous service believe with the 9th batt but no previous number recorded on the mic or soldiers died.

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Andrew,

Whilst searching for details on M.I.C. cards for a man named Underwood, Sherwood Rangers/Notts Hussars, Notts Yeomanry ? came across three seperate entries for another Underwood:- two as H Underwood Sgt., No 9224 Notts and Derby Regt., and one as Herbert Underwood C.S.M No, 9224 Notts and Derby Regt, which I thought was rather curious.

Regards Cliff.

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I have just discovered that I had another relative in the Sherwoods: 125252 Private Thomas Lissemore. Any clues as to which Battalion? His medal index card also shows (the line above) South Staffordshire Regiment 240983. Is this a later transfer? Why is this likely to have happened.

Regards

Dave

Not sure but 125250 Pte William Ward was in 1st Bn, 9thBn, 16th Bn and 9th Bn.

Many men seem to have come from the South Staffs. possibly because in July 1916 some SF battlions lent out men to the South Staffs. I do not have Thomas on my 9th Bn Medal Rolls though.

stevem

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henry baddeley mic pte 23420, theatre 2B / Balkans, date on entry 31/12/15. dow 19/8/17 10th batt

previous service believe with the 9th batt but no previous number recorded on the mic or soldiers died.

He was in the 9th Bn first and then the 10th. He would have arrived when they were at Mudros on lemnos after the Gallipoli campaign. It is possible he was wounded/sick whilst with 9th and then moved to 10th when fit. He could have been wounded on 8th August - The enemy sent a raiding party out. 2/Lt Wicks and four men rushed to meet them - a shower of bombs wounded three. They were in the line south of the Arras - Vitry Railway (near Arras)

stevem

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Cliff,

Underwoods 4 MICs are:

Campaign medals, MSM, DCM & probably MM.

MSM:

LG 29-8-1918

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...;selHonourType=

DCM:

LG 3-9-1918

9224 Sjt. H. Underwood, Notts. & Derby. R. (Derby).

For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty during operations. When the situation was very obscure he volunteered to go forward through a heavy barrage, and succeeded in obtaining valuable information. He then carried ammunition to various posts under heavy artillery fire, and was wounded in doing so. As scout serjeant his great courage and determination have been most valuable.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...;selHonourType=

MM:

Fairly certain the third card is for an MM, but can't find it!

Steve.

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Cliff,

Underwoods 4 MICs are:

Campaign medals, MSM, DCM & probably MM.

MSM:

LG 29-8-1918

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...;selHonourType=

DCM:

LG 3-9-1918

9224 Sjt. H. Underwood, Notts. & Derby. R. (Derby).

For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty during operations. When the situation was very obscure he volunteered to go forward through a heavy barrage, and succeeded in obtaining valuable information. He then carried ammunition to various posts under heavy artillery fire, and was wounded in doing so. As scout serjeant his great courage and determination have been most valuable.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...;selHonourType=

MM:

Fairly certain the third card is for an MM, but can't find it!

Steve.

MM -

Underwood ( DCM MSM) H Sgt later CSM 9224 2nd and 10th bns London Gazette 14.4.1919 (awarded MSM 29/08/1918)

stevem

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I see there's been a little activity since I last looked in. Many thanks to all those who have contributed.

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14936 Harold Biggin enl 13.8.14 into 18th Battn (don't see many of those :blink: )

12707 George Brassington enl 17.8.14, d 26.9.14. Served with 9th Battn (but not overseas) - one for Steve M B)

24064 Harold Mycock enl 9.3.15, d 1.8.18

and..........

122280 William Brassington enl 30.5.19

127371 George Allcock enl 15.5.20 at SF Depot

all from Pension Records

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12707 George Brassington enl 17.8.14, d 26.9.14. Served with 9th Battn (but not overseas) - one for Steve M B)

Poor bloke did not even get a uniform.

24064 Harold Mycock enl 9.3.15, d 1.8.18

Slight problem with this one - I have 24064 Albert Mycock - 9th Bn and then 11th Bn.

Thanks for Brassington as i would never have found him!

stevem

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24064 Harold Mycock enl 9.3.15, d 1.8.18

Slight problem with this one - I have 24064 Albert Mycock - 9th Bn and then 11th Bn.

Sorry, my fault - he actually came from a SWB MIC (not pensions file) so fits with the 9th/11th Battn

:rolleyes:

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Sorry, my fault - he actually came from a SWB MIC (not pensions file) so fits with the 9th/11th Battn

:rolleyes:

One thing :D Would they not have qualified to be on the CWGC database?

Brassington did not last long but still died in service.

Mycock ( Albert - Harold or both :blink: ) had the SWB.

I cannot find either man nor are they in the SDGW (unless I missed them that is.

stevem

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Here is a bit more detail on Brassington. He served for 41 days, BUT, 2 x 14 days were spent on field punishment #2, so he only has 13 days of Service before being discharged for misconduct

he had a few mates too - six 9th Battn men you might not want to include :unsure:

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sorry 'd' meant discharged not died

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