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Hambo

Could anyone give me some detail around the loss of the Submarine L10? I think she was sunk by enemy gunfire on the 3rd or 4th of October 1918. Was she on the surface? I have a man I'm researching who was aboard her. Were there any survivors and is there a picture of her anywhere or at least of an L class sub

Thanks Hambo

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DirtyDick

From the RNSM:

"3 October 1918

Sunk north of Terschelling by gunfire from German ships

On the morning of 3rd October 1918 HMS L10 was in the vicinity of a German convoy, which had, the previous night, been attacked by British Destroyers. That afternoon a number of German ships were spotted searching the area for survivors and L10 signalled her intention of attacking the German squadron, which consisted of the Destroyers S33 and S34 and two torpedo boats heading from Zeebrugge to Germany.

S34 struck a mine with the result that the other ships were forced to ignore the danger of mines to rescue the sinking destroyer’s crew. L10 moved in and fired a torpedo at S33. S33 was severely damaged but initial thoughts of another mine were dispelled when L10’s conning tower broached the surface. S33 managed to bring her guns to bear and sank the submarine through persistent shelling."

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BTW: you might want to contact the Archives at the RN Submarine Museum about this man.

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Horace Bachelor

Hambo,

I can't help you with L10 but I have several photos of other L class.

Here's L19 of 1919 at Malta in 1929.

Rich.

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kin47

Hello

There were no survivours from L 10. I have the complete casualty list, if helpful.

All best

don

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spithead

L10 Had a compliment of 39, lost with all hands 2/3 Oct 1918

The only 'L' Class submarine to be lost in ww1

Regards

John

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Hambo

Thanks everyone for the excellant information. I have had a look on the web today and found that the S33 sank as a result of the damage it received at the hands of L10.

Just to confirm from the casualty list my man is Leading Telegraphist J/21375 William Frampton Baker.

Many Thanks Hambo

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kin47

Hello

This is the L 10 casualty list.

BAKER WILLIAM F. L/TELEGRAPHIST J 21375 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

BANKS JAMES A. A.B. J 14547 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

BIRD PERCY H. E.R.A. 3c M 10934 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

BLACKMAN EDWARD R. STOKER 1c K 5537 (Po) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

BONTOR LAWRENCE S. LT L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

BRINJES STANLEY L. TY/LT, RNR L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

CHARLTON PHILIP H. L/STOKER K 10429 (Po) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

COX DANIEL E. A.B. J 29385 (Po) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

DENTON ALFRED T. STOKER 1c K 16552 (Po) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

ELKINGTON STANLEY E. STOKER 1c K 25018 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

EPPS THOMAS H. A.B. J 23611 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

EYRES FRANK CHIEF STOKER 286254 (Po) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

GLEESON MARTIN L/SEAMAN 202170 (Dev) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

GRAHAM JOHN E.R.A.2c, RNVR TYNESIDE 1/ 148 L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

GRANT HEDLEY A. A.B. J 13016 (Po) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

GREENER JOSEPH A.B. 237582 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

GURNEY ALFRED A. C.P.O. (RFR B 284) 163894 (Po) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

HAWKINS GEORGE H. STOKER 1c K 13085 (Po) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

HAYWARD HARRY L/STOKER K 8026 (Po) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

HUGHES CYRIL J. A.B. J 14422 (Po) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

HUTCHINGS FRANK E. STOKER 1c SS 116833 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

HUTCHINGS SAMUEL J. P.O. J 6140 (Dev) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

LANGSTON FRANK STOKER 1c SS 114866 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

LINK HARRY L/SEAMAN 229291 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

MAYNARD WILLIAM A.B. 211470 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

MCCARTHY ERNEST F. A.B. J 29831 (Po) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

MILES WILLIAM J. C.E.R.A. 1c 269833 (Dev) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

NUNN ARTHUR W. STOKER 1c K 26311 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

OWEN NORMAN F. E.R.A. 4c M 26288 (Dev) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

PULMAN EDWARD J. SIGNALMAN J 10926 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

RAWSON CORNELIUS STOKER 1c K 13807 (Dev) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

SMITH HAROLD L. ARTIFICER ENGINEER L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

STEWART JOHN A. STOKER 1c K 25780 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

WALKDEN HAROLD G. L/STOKER, RAN 2294 L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

WALSH FESTY STOKER 1c K 30492 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

WEIR WILLIAM M. TELEGRAPHIST J 61125 (Po) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

WHEATLEY JAMES A. LT L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

WHITEHOUSE ALFRED E. LCDR L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

WHYBROW ERNEST G. L/SEAMAN J 19991 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS

All best

don

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Michael Lowrey

Was in contact with a Dutch shipwreck museum a few months ago; the wreck of L10 has not been located to date to the best of their knowledge.

Best wishes,

Michael

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Hambo

Many thanks again, that's my man at the top of the list. Do you know what the (ch) after his number means?

Also the action seems to have taken place on the 3rd of October but the official date seems to be the 4th

Thanks again Hambo

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Ned
Do you know what the (ch) after his number means?

this indicates that your man signed up at Chatham .

(Ch) Chathem

(Dev) Devonport

(Po) Portsmouth

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Hambo

Thanks Ned

I found a site that says the L10 was built HMS Dockyard Pembroke, and launched in January 1918. Where is HMS Pembroke? and is the launch date about right?

Hambo

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Horace Bachelor

Hambo,

It's HM Dockyard Pembroke, Wales not HMS Pembroke.

Rich.

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Horace Bachelor

My Janes doesn't give L10's builder, just lists her as a war loss. According to Battleships-Cruisers, L10 was built by Denny and not Pembroke DY, launched Jan 24th 1918 http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/submarines.htm

Rich.

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Hambo

Thanks Rich

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Guest dulwichtess

WALSH FESTY STOKER 1c K 30492 (Ch) L 10 04/10/18 SHIP LOSS, was one of my relatives who died the L10. I don't know much about him and was wondering would there be any pictures of the crew somewhere out there.

Sorry if in the wrong place, I am new to the site

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sadsac

Hello Hambo, find here details of submarine service of L/Tel Baker, lost HMS/m L.10 - RESURGAM ;

BAKER WILLIAM FRAMPTON LDG TEL C/J 21375 NE RN 21 210797 C F CHATHAM 5 - 433

TC 180215 DOLPHIN

L10 180409 DOLPHIN ADVANCE PARTY

L10 180701 MAIDSTONE

DD L10 061018 AGE 21 CHATHAM 5 - 433

Son of Clifford George and Sarah Baker, of 3 Hurst Cottages, Station Rd, Limpsfield, Surrey.

Killed in action with T.B.D., in North Sea.

Chatham Memorial is open 0830 - 1700. For entry Telephone Guard Room at Brompton Barracks, 01634 - 822442.

HMS MAIDSTONE. ADM 188 / 689. AG 1396 / 18.

P.o.B ; Wandsworth, London. Occ ; Office Boy.

Note ; dates of service are in reverse order - 180215 = 15 February 1918.

L.10 Advance Party - he was first of crew to arrive Denny's Yard to take over the boat (after the initial `stand-by-buiiding' crew).

Sadsac

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sadsac

Hello TESS, and welcome to the Forum. Here are submarine service details of your relation Sto Walsh - RESURGAM ;

WALSH FESTY STO 1 C/K 30492 NE RN 011094 050618

SC 180605 DOLPHIN

SC 180702 MAIDSTONE

L10 180703 MAIDSTONE

DD L10 090118

JOINED FROM HMS ROYAL OAK DATE VOL ; 010517

JOINED RN 190116 HOSTLITIES ONLY

SENIOR IN RATING 191016 AGE 21

CHATHAM 29 - 5 - 493

Killed in action with T.B.D. in North Sea.

Chatham Memorial is open 0830 - 1700. For entry Telephone Guard Room at Brompton Barracks, 01634 - 822442.

HMS MAIDSTONE. ADM 188 / 927. AG 1396 / 18.

P.o.B ; Clifden, Galway. Occ ; Waterman.

Note ; servuce dates are in reverse order - 180605 = 05 June 1918.

Note also that he volunteered from HMS Royal Oak - probably fed up with service in a great `battlewagon' doing nothing, sitting in Scap Flow.

Regards & Good Hunting

Sadsac

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James A Pratt III

The book "Benneth the Waves" dealing with RN submarine losses has an account of L10s loss.

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submarine

Hi Hambo

I have been looking for a Photo of L10 for some time ,with no luck , i am interested in Samuel James Hutchings ,if i find a Crew or Submarine photo i will let you know.

Best wishes

Colin

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sadsac

i am interested in Samuel James Hutchings

Colin, find here details of submarine service of PO Hutchings - RESURGAM ;

HUTCHINGS SAMUEL JAMES PO TGM D/J 6140 NE RN 170893 020213

TC 130202 DOLPHIN

131206 PACTOLUS

LTO 150814 VERNON

K10 151010 DOLPHIN

171122 DOLPHIN

TGM 171201 VERNON

ADDL 180219 AMBROSE

L10 180419 DOLPHIN

L10 180701 MAIDSTONE

DD L10 061018

SENIOR IN RATING 171115 LS 010417 PO C S EXPIRES 170823

AGE 25 PLYMOUTH 26 - 6 - 392

Son of S.J. Hutchings of Heath Hills, Folly Gate, Inwardleigh, Okehampton ; husband of Elizabeth Halstead (formerly Hutchings), of Frankland Farm, Sampford Courtney, North Tawton, Devon.

Killed in action with T.B.D. in North Sea.

HMS MAIDSTONE. ADM 188 / 659. AG 1396 / 18.P.o.B ; Exeter, Devon. Occ ; Butchers Boy.

Regards Sadsac

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Krithia
Hi Hambo

I have been looking for a Photo of L10 for some time ,with no luck , i am interested in Samuel James Hutchings ,if i find a Crew or Submarine photo i will let you know.

Hi Colin,

Here is a pic of L10, unfortunately I cannot remember the source of the photo.

regards Krithia

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submarine

Hi Krithia and Sadsac

Photo and info is Great ,Many thanks for help .

Colin

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Eyresfamily

Hello,

My Great Grandfather Frank Eyres served on the L10 as a chief stoker. Sadly he also lost his life on this submarine, but I do have a photograph of him and some of his colleagues. Unfortunately there are no names on the back of the original photo but if anyone is interested I would be happy to post a copy of the picture into the forum.

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sadsac

Hello EyresF. Yes, please post the picture of your GGFather on the Forum. All I think will be pleased to see it / him.

Please find here the Submarine Service Record of GGFather ;

EYRES FRANK CSTO P/ 286254 DSM RN SM L.10 04.10.18 Z 41 100678 C F

PORTSMOUTH 29 PORTSMOUTH 7 - 529

Son of John and Elizabeth Eyres ; husband of Louisa Kate Eyres, of 30 Brookfield Rd., Portsmouth.

Killed in action with T.B.D. in North Sea.

HMS MAIDSTONE. ADM 188 / 459. A.G 1396 / 18.P.o.B ; Salisbury, Wilts. Occ ; Labourer.

SC 090919 DOLPHIN

C35 091201 DOLPHIN

D1 100401 DOLPHIN BONAVENTURE MAIDSTONE

SC 150401 MAIDSTONE

E19 150601 MAIDSTONE

E19 160731 BALTIC

SC 180122 DOLPHIN

L10 180212 DOLPHIN

L10 180701 MAIDSTONEDD 181002 L10

His FULL RN Service Record ADM 188 / 459 may be obtained from PRO/NA `on-line' for £3.50.

There are no LOGS for C.35 / D1 for the dates he served on the boats. Likewise no Logs for E.19 as she was, at the time, in the Baltic.

For info on her at that time I suggest you contact DARREN BROWN - most knowledgable in that subject.

The LOGS for L.10 prior to her loss are in ;

ADM 172 / 7951 for June 1918

ADM 172 / 7952 for July 1918

ADM 172 / 7953 for Aug 1918

Logs are mostly for navigational purposes, but do also give other info at time - Lt ??? joined ship / Sto ??? injured in E.Room.

Sadsac

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Signals

Hi Eyresfamily,

as Sadsac mentioned, i do have a lot on your man, i have sent you a Personal Message so i can help you. What a very special relative you have, he was one of five men from E19 who was selected to be awarded the Cross of St George in November 1915, and the special part was his medal was pinned personaly by none other that Russia's Last Czar. The remainder of E19's crew got their Crosses in June 1916. If you still have his Cross, priceless is all i can say. But many men sold these Russian Awards. Also got Several Photos of him.

D

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